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Reread my posted. iOS 7-9 is the same design.

Yes I get it now. I thought you were saying essentially that iOS 7-9 were the same as ios6, etc. But you were speaking only about the dock while I mistakenly thought you were speaking about the iOS in its entirety. My apologies for mis-interpreting.
 
Yes I get it now. I thought you were saying essentially that iOS 7-9 were the same as ios6, etc. But you were speaking only about the dock while I mistakenly thought you were speaking about the iOS in its entirety. My apologies for mis-interpreting.
It's not about be dock, it's about iOS 7 through 9 being of the same overall design among themselves (just like iOS 4 through 6 were of the same overall design between themselves).
 
Yes I get it now. I thought you were saying essentially that iOS 7-9 were the same as ios6, etc. But you were speaking only about the dock while I mistakenly thought you were speaking about the iOS in its entirety. My apologies for mis-interpreting.
Still not what I'm saying. Read the parenthesis for the changes I am referring to for those 3 versions of iOS. iOS 7-9 had the overhaul design that changed in iOS 7. Changes were not made until iOS 10 from that design.
 
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Still not what I'm saying. Read the parenthesis for the changes I am referring to for those 3 versions of iOS. iOS 7-9 had the overhaul design that changed in iOS 7. Changes were not made until iOS 10 from that design.

It's not about be dock, it's about iOS 7 through 9 being of the same overall design among themselves (just like iOS 4 through 6 were of the same overall design between themselves).

THX for setting me straight! My mistake!
 
I don't understand why Apple doesn't come out with round icons like they have on the computers. The iPhone should be able to have rounded icons it would look really nice.
 
I don't understand why Apple doesn't come out with round icons like they have on the computers. The iPhone should be able to have rounded icons it would look really nice.
Its to keep uniformity. Not all Mac icons are round. Only a few are. Most are squared/rectangular.
 
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I don't understand why Apple doesn't come out with round icons like they have on the computers. The iPhone should be able to have rounded icons it would look really nice.

Couldn't disagree more. :) iOS7's changing to round contact photos and round phone dialer buttons was as absurd to my iOS experience then as it is now; it was just to be different than before. Even worse, all the lemmings web designers have followed suit (Linked In, Facebook, etc.) since Apple often sets the stage that all the lemmings follow. Lost opportunity of using available space in the corners for more illustration/info as well as less useful pressable area (dialer buttons), just for the sake of being different than iOS6. At the very heart of much of my whining about the iOS UI since 2017, round buttons (and "buttonless" text-based "buttons") are masochistic in that very often the fingertip completely covers the text or round button and there's no visual cue to inform that you've successfully enacted your request. Instead you have to often wait for a secondary cue to see if your request "took," which is such frustratingly poor UI implementation that it still shocks me to this day to be coming from Apple. All so Jony's iOS 7 would look different than Scott's (and others') iOS 6.

The minute you're willing to use a round-screen iPhone and rework the framed photos on your home's walls to round frameless shapes, please let us know. :) Apple at least realized the ridiculousness of going round with the iWatch, where round would have raised a lot fewer eyebrows than how round photos/buttons appeared in their iOS since 2013.

If Apple offered round icons as an option in the Settings area, then fine. Knowing Apple though, if they enacted round buttons, they'd be standard and then hide "Use Square Buttons" in the Accessibility area. :mad::rolleyes:o_O
 
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anybody seen this video? I think it hits the nail on its head when it comes to ios 11 on the X. Too many stupid decisions were made while making iOS for the X.
 
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iOS7's changing to round contact photos and round phone dialer buttons was as absurd to my iOS experience then as it is now;

Completely agree. When iOS 7 started using a stupid little circle of a contact photo for incoming calls instead of the full screen image was an idiotic design choice.
For some reason the circle has stayed with other apps for no apparent reason other than it's not a square or rectangle.
And since type doesn't wrap around circles in the UI they take up just as much layout space with less information.
Great design choice.
 
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Completely agree. When iOS 7 started using a stupid little circle of a contact photo for incoming calls instead of the full screen image was an idiotic design choice.

Jony just had to be different with iOS 7. As time has proved, iOS7's UI fixed nothing broken in iOS6's UI. It was just different.

Same for going to five circles for signal strength in iOS 7 - used more space to show the same information in a more difficult way (I'd frequently have difficulty discerning which circles were filled in), whereas the previous method used bars of varying heights which displayed the info much quicker and more intuitively.

Dumb dumb dumb. But luckily someone is fixing the wrongs and slowly working back towards pre-iOS7, whereas the signal bars are currently back to what they should have stayed at.
 
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Love the design of iOS, don’t understand why it comes in for so much criticism on that front, I really think it looks wonderful.

Now only if it worked properly...
 
Love the design of iOS, don’t understand why it comes in for so much criticism on that front, I really think it looks wonderful.

Now only if it worked properly...

Reread your post three times and maybe it will sink in why it deserves so much criticism. You nailed it and didn’t even realize it. :)

Function should never be forced to take a backseat in favor of appearance like how iOS was ruined with 7 and which is slowly being recussitated back to life by the return of certain UI cues that should never have been tinkered with.
 
Jony just had to be different with iOS 7. As time has proved, iOS7's UI fixed nothing broken in iOS6's UI. It was just different.

Same for going to five circles for signal strength in iOS 7 - used more space to show the same information in a more difficult way (I'd frequently have difficulty discerning which circles were filled in), whereas the previous method used bars of varying heights which displayed the info much quicker and more intuitively.

Dumb dumb dumb. But luckily someone is fixing the wrongs and slowly working back towards pre-iOS7, whereas the signal bars are currently back to what they should have stayed at.
I just realized today that the new iOS 11 camera icon is also heavily inspired by iOS 6. 3A3351A5-D758-4244-B190-7CEFFBC6ED49.jpg
 
I just realized today that the new iOS 11 camera icon is also heavily inspired by iOS 6.View attachment 738769

Yeah, they decided to remove two lines on the top and bottom of the lens of the iOS 7-10 icon.

Either this is another instance of 'change for the sake of change', or perhaps they're admitting that they 'overdesigned' the previous version of the icon... Who knows?
 
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Completely agree. When iOS 7 started using a stupid little circle of a contact photo for incoming calls instead of the full screen image was an idiotic design choice.
For some reason the circle has stayed with other apps for no apparent reason other than it's not a square or rectangle.
And since type doesn't wrap around circles in the UI they take up just as much layout space with less information.
Great design choice.
Those little circles were actually first introduced to Steve Jobs by Johnny Ive when the first iPhone was in the making. He was against that design and didnt like. And guess when those dots came to the iOS, one year after his death and after departure of Scott Fortall. And now we are back to bars. Ever since Scott Forstall left apple the iOS dev team has been more or less lost without clear vision for the iOS. It's becoming bigger and bigger mess with more and more bugs, while losing its simplicity and becoming more and more difficult for people, that bought iPhone for the sole reason of its simplicity.
 
Considering Jony is developing a reputation for gettng execs axed who disagree with him, what are the odds of a lower-level designer or anyone on his team standing up to Jony at times when he proposes various silly minimalizaion arthouse ideas? None.

Or as Jony would say: N.

Or as Jony would say in a year later’s iOS: N
 
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Yeah, they decided to remove two lines on the top and bottom of the lens of the iOS 7-10 icon.

Either this is another instance of 'change for the sake of change', or perhaps they're admitting that they 'overdesigned' the previous version of the icon... Who knows?
I don’t know about you, but I definitely like the new icon better than the obe from iOS 7-10. The original icon was the best though.
 
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