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This will be the same for iPhone 6 series, iPod series and iPad Air. A lot of devices. A lot.
List of iOS devices with 64 bit architecture and 1GB of RAM:IPhone 5S,IPhone 6,IPhone 6 Plus ,IPod Touch 6 Gen,

IPad mini 2,IPad mini 3,IPad Air 1

I think not all devices will be dropped at the same time ,The IPhone 6 will get one more iOS version than IPhone 5S , and then will get dropped. Apple never stops updating 2 generations at the same time . IOS 14 will require devices with 2GB of RAM or more. iPhone 6S and newer, IPad Air 2 and newer , iPad mini 4. That's what I predict.
 
Look at the evolution of macOS and you'll see that UI changes are extremely incremental nowadays.

^ You need to look at who's in charge of macOS ... I'll offer you one guess: who is in charge of iOS, hmmm. Therein lies your restrictions and lack of real innovation between the two (mostly macOS which is mostly a rebrand from the past for OSX11.x or whatever was after Mavericks). It's sad really we've gone from OX Panther to Snow Leopard and Lion with HUGE REAL progress in the kernel of the OS and end user UI benefits for ALL users to Emoji's, softer UI and ok TouchID (which is a BIG welcome change). Take a look at each change for OSX up to Snow Lion vs anything thereafter.
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But I extreme love flat design, that why I love new iOS design. new Android design and new Windows 10 design.

:p Dude, FLAT UI design has existed LONG before iOS/Android:
Palm OS on the Palm IIIc, S60 2ND and 3RD Editions, Microsoft Smartphone Edition & PocketPC Phone Edition, etc etc. Heck even BlackBerry BBOS had a "Flat UI" design. Sure I'd wager only SE's UIQ (Symbian OS) or Nokia's S60 2ND Edition had anything somewhat decent yet not comparable by today's standards ... but it was there.

I think the FLAT UI design was implemented to conserve Battery Life as it took a toll on smartphone's mobile graphics chips. But that is my guess.
 
All the iOS 7 (and above) apologists who proclaim how it's so much better without skeumorphism fail to realize their beloved new UI has: 1. A handset icon from a landline dating back 100 years that most kids have never used, 2. An envelope dating back even longer which again no kids have ever used, 3. A compass?? Really? To denote navigation, once again using a real world metaphor which most young people don't get. 4. And finally a musical note,dating back to sheet music, how quaint.

But nah, we took out the felt and the shadows so it's not skeumorphic anymore!

What is your point?

Symbols are they key to communication. A handset icon is universal for phone, and green means pick up phone. Envelope has been universal for email, and not just mail. If you live anywhere, you still always see an envelope. A compass is a way to find direction, how else will you show direction? And musical note has been the symbol for music, it doesn't date back to sheet music.

I hope this is a joke post because it's incredibly poorly thought out. They can't change the baseline symbology without alienating most of the core, and kids are smarter than you think. They might not know what a floppy is but they know that a floppy sign means save and a handset sign means call and a musical note sign means music.

All they really could've done is remove the skeumorphism, what else could Apple have done that really improve usability?
 
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Yeah, design is kinda on a pattern really. In the 80-90s it was flat design. Then skeuomorphic design took over in 2000 and was killed in 2012-2013. Now Flat design is the trend now, even though its an eye sore and in most cases gets boring really really fast. It won't be too long and things will start slowly shifting back. Apple is already back-peddling in some things and because of these little things, people say all the time "JUST BRING BACK IOS 6!" iOS 10 has already brought back some depth with notification bubbles, widgets, the new "card" interface in Music and Maps, and the control center. Messages also shares this with its heavily skeuomorphic screen effects it introduced this year. It's all a matter of time before they cave in, and I can't wait! :p
 
All the iOS 7 (and above) apologists who proclaim how it's so much better without skeumorphism fail to realize their beloved new UI has: 1. A handset icon from a landline dating back 100 years that most kids have never used, 2. An envelope dating back even longer which again no kids have ever used, 3. A compass?? Really? To denote navigation, once again using a real world metaphor which most young people don't get. 4. And finally a musical note,dating back to sheet music, how quaint.

But nah, we took out the felt and the shadows so it's not skeumorphic anymore!
So what's your solution?
 
If iOS 11 brings a redesign , it will be like iOS 7 was ......But I think it's too soon for a redesign. I think iOS 13 will bring a radical redesign like iOS 7. By that time ,the IPhone 5S Will be dropped .and it will slow the 6 because of the new design ( 1GB of RAM won't be enough to handle IOS ) iOS 13 will be the last iOS for it .I think iOS 14 will be compatible with 6S and newer. The 6S will be the longevity model ..

Also ,I think iOS 14 will be compatible with Air 2 too
 
^ You need to look at who's in charge of macOS ... I'll offer you one guess: who is in charge of iOS, hmmm. Therein lies your restrictions and lack of real innovation between the two (mostly macOS which is mostly a rebrand from the past for OSX11.x or whatever was after Mavericks). It's sad really we've gone from OX Panther to Snow Leopard and Lion with HUGE REAL progress in the kernel of the OS and end user UI benefits for ALL users to Emoji's, softer UI and ok TouchID (which is a BIG welcome change). Take a look at each change for OSX up to Snow Lion vs anything thereafter.
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:p Dude, FLAT UI design has existed LONG before iOS/Android:
Palm OS on the Palm IIIc, S60 2ND and 3RD Editions, Microsoft Smartphone Edition & PocketPC Phone Edition, etc etc. Heck even BlackBerry BBOS had a "Flat UI" design. Sure I'd wager only SE's UIQ (Symbian OS) or Nokia's S60 2ND Edition had anything somewhat decent yet not comparable by today's standards ... but it was there.

I think the FLAT UI design was implemented to conserve Battery Life as it took a toll on smartphone's mobile graphics chips. But that is my guess.
Those is with huge border and mostly colorless. It is big different with current flat UI. Lol
 
I don't think we will see a redesign too soon.. I think iOS 13 will be a completely redesign.And then , The iPhone 5S Will stay on iOS 12. And it will slow down the 6. iOS 13 Will be the last iOS for these device.(1GB of RAM won't be enough to deal with iOS and new features, they will support the 6 because they can't drop 2 IPhones at once . When the 5S be left in the dust . The 6 will be the next ... ( the year after I predict)
 
Yeah, design is kinda on a pattern really. In the 80-90s it was flat design. Then skeuomorphic design took over in 2000 and was killed in 2012-2013. Now Flat design is the trend now, even though its an eye sore and in most cases gets boring really really fast. It won't be too long and things will start slowly shifting back. Apple is already back-peddling in some things and because of these little things, people say all the time "JUST BRING BACK IOS 6!" iOS 10 has already brought back some depth with notification bubbles, widgets, the new "card" interface in Music and Maps, and the control center. Messages also shares this with its heavily skeuomorphic screen effects it introduced this year. It's all a matter of time before they cave in, and I can't wait! :p
All those you mentioned is flat design. It is skeuomorphic flat UI look.
 
All those you mentioned is flat design. It is skeuomorphic flat UI look.
Not really, the bubbles in the way they look, look extremely similar to the banners iOS 6 had.

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Look above. In iOS 10, the icon is now at the top with the app name or contact name, then details on the bottom. The concept between the two is very similar, the only difference is that the new ones are bigger and are translucent as opposed to a subtle opaque white gradient. Tbh the old banners were a little more convenient if you were in the middle of something, because they only took up a small space and the space never changed, so it was a nice screen space saver (with a neat roll animation I might add). The new ones take up a lot of space, A lot of times if I'm watching a YouTube video in landscape, a notification comes in and literally takes up half the screen.
 
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Not really, the bubbles in the way they look, look extremely similar to the banners iOS 6 had.

ios5-notifications-dropdown.jpg


Look above. In iOS 10, the icon is now at the top with the app name or contact name, then details on the bottom. The concept between the two is very similar, the only difference is that the new ones are bigger and are translucent as opposed to a subtle opaque white gradient. Tbh the old banners were a little more convenient if you were in the middle of something, because they only took up a small space and the space never changed, so it was a nice screen space saver (with a neat roll animation I might add). The new ones take up a lot of space, A lot of times if I'm watching a YouTube video in landscape, a notification comes in and literally takes up half the screen.
It is flat with clean shadow and no gradient tone on the box in new one.

Old one is having strong darker with tone shadow and with gradient on the box which make it not flat feel and a bit 3d pop.

Those gradient tones and long dark shadow is the one I find it not nice.
 
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iOS 6 was certainly my favourite of all the iOS versions. I did enjoy the changes that iOS 7 brought with it, however the last couple of versions are terrible in my opinion. Not a fan at all, I think some things have become too complicated and Apple has removed the simplicity of iOS. Also I find Spotlight very buggy now and it hardly ever works for me now. The music app is terrible. iOS6 I think had that perfect. Ugh Apple has lost its way in recent times.
 
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It is flat with clean shadow and no gradient tone on the box in new one.

Old one is having strong darker with tone shadow and with gradient on the box which make it not flat feel and a bit 3d pop.

Those gradient tones and long dark shadow is the one I find it not nice.
The difference though is so minuscule, that's the point I was stating.

Just a quick edit, and this banner would fit right in with the old design.

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I think if the new iPhones (if iPhone rumors are anything to go by) hold up, then we'll probably just get the "dark mode" everyone's been wanting. I don't think a "major" redesign will happen because flat is just the go to right now. Probably just clean up the current UI and add more functionality with apps/notifications and then a dark version to go with the oled screens like the Apple Watch.
 
Where is the too much white space? Settings app? What else? This leads to the dark mode argument. What is this 'white space' that people are constantly talking about? Safari has to be white because its web pages, sure messages can have a darker UI. But nothing will change with the home screen or lock screen. There is nothing to darken.
Ummm have you ever used the music app?
 
All the iOS 7 (and above) apologists who proclaim how it's so much better without skeumorphism fail to realize their beloved new UI has: 1. A handset icon from a landline dating back 100 years that most kids have never used, 2. An envelope dating back even longer which again no kids have ever used, 3. A compass?? Really? To denote navigation, once again using a real world metaphor which most young people don't get. 4. And finally a musical note,dating back to sheet music, how quaint.

But nah, we took out the felt and the shadows so it's not skeumorphic anymore!
Let's not forget the textured background in the default Notes app.
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I'm just waiting for Apple to cave and go back to the old design. I'm locked to the old one and I can't get away from it. If I get away from it, then I hate using iOS. The old design is what made iOS unique and fun for me. Now the current design isn't special and makes the user experience stale after a short period of use. I can't stand this flat design trend that started up. For years I always thought that computers were trying to be more realistic, and Apple had a huge lead if we talk about that, but sadly that was squished when Microsoft invented Metro and Google went to flat design. Then Apple "Think Different" thought the same and went flat.

I start rambling about this and others start chiming in saying, "Well, textures and 3D elements are necessary anymore because everyone knows how to use their iPhone. They don't need optical illusions anymore." That's not the exact point of Skeuomorphic design. The design had a great experience and was very pleasing to the eyes. The design also took awhile to get stale for some people, but for me, I still love it and love the experience that comes with it. Sure it's just a design, but it comes with an experience that really does make a difference and really does impact how the device in your hand feels. I'll give you an example:

Last year while my iPhone 4S was my current iPhone. I was stuck on a botched iOS 7 version with an identity crisis that looked almost identical to iOS 6. It was super broken though, and half the system apps were broken and didn't work. Then In November, I found out about OdysseusOTA having the ability to downgrade iPhone 4S' to iOS 6.1.3. It was only on Mac though, but I luckily found a tutorial for using it on Windows. I didn't hesitate one second to download all the files and perform the downgrade the next day. The tool succeeded and iOS 6 burst to life. I ran though the setup and activated it, then installed some apps. When I did all of this, good grief, it felt like I had just got a brand new phone. It was super fast and the user experience was so great. It really showed how beautiful the iPhone 4S really was, and I wouldn't have minded to use it for another year, if Mom didn't offer to let me pick up an iPhone 6S before Christmas. I wanted to stick with iOS 6, but I didn't want to be stuck on 3G.

If the 2018 iPhone 8 is going to have the iPhone 4's design like it's rumored to have, then Apple really does need to revert back to the old design, because iOS 7+ doesn't look right on the iPhone 4 or 5 really.

It's hard to pass up this design.

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One of the main reasons I bought a Mac was because I felt it had the best looking UI - it was beautiful and I could just sit and stare at it all day. Now.. it's flat and boring.. just like the rest.
 
iOS 11 compatible devices??
It is very hard to predict what devices will be able to run and install iOS 10, but based on history we can see that the following devices will be able to support iOS 10 (source: BGR)
iPhone
iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPhone SE, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus (iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus*)
iPad
iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPad Pro 12.9'', iPad Pro 9.7''
iPod
iPod touch (6th-generation)
Devices that will not support iOS 11(maybe)
iPhone
iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5
iPad
iPad, iPad 2, ''iPad''
iPod touch
iPod, iPod 2, iPod 3, iPod 4, iPod 5
The iPhone 5 may support iOS 11, but hence Apple do by year not by by specifications we will most likely see that the iPhone 5c and later may be able to run, just like tha mac Mini, both same specifications but the later model was able to run macOS Yoesmite.
Any questions please reply.

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I think if the new iPhones (if iPhone rumors are anything to go by) hold up, then we'll probably just get the "dark mode" everyone's been wanting. I don't think a "major" redesign will happen because flat is just the go to right now. Probably just clean up the current UI and add more functionality with apps/notifications and then a dark version to go with the oled screens like the Apple Watch.
I would not count on a Dark Mode
 
I honestly thought Apple would bring a new design to iOS 10 for the big 10 update. I really think Apple is satisfied with the look of iOS. I believe we'll have some more UI enhancements like we got with iOS 10, but for the most part I think the current overall look of the OS is here to stay for a while.
 
I honestly thought Apple would bring a new design to iOS 10 for the big 10 update. I really think Apple is satisfied with the look of iOS. I believe we'll have some more UI enhancements like we got with iOS 10, but for the most part I think the current overall look of the OS is here to stay for a while.
They are chasing things around, like notifications which got changed in iOS 10, so it's possible that's a stepping stone to similar changes in more areas in iOS 11.
 
It is very hard to predict what devices will be able to run and install iOS 10, but based on history we can see that the following devices will be able to support iOS 10 (source: BGR)
iPhone
iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPhone SE, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus (iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus*)
iPad
iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPad Pro 12.9'', iPad Pro 9.7''
iPod
iPod touch (6th-generation)
Devices that will not support iOS 11(maybe)
iPhone
iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5
iPad
iPad, iPad 2, ''iPad''
iPod touch
iPod, iPod 2, iPod 3, iPod 4, iPod 5
The iPhone 5 may support iOS 11, but hence Apple do by year not by by specifications we will most likely see that the iPhone 5c and later may be able to run, just like tha mac Mini, both same specifications but the later model was able to run macOS Yoesmite.
Any questions please reply.

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I would not count on a Dark Mode
I don't think that Apple will support 32 bit devices next year.
There is no reason to keep supporting it . Also , if IOS 11 cut support for the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5c will go with it .It has the same A6 processor, 32 bit , same frequency. IMO Apple made a mistake with the 5C . (Plastic ,really Apple ???) .
Both have the same processors .
IMO IOS 11 will support iPhone 5S and newer
iPad Mini 2 and newer
iPod touch 6
iPad Air 1 and newer

Don't forget that mini 2 has the A7 processor
 
IMO Apple made a mistake with the 5C . (Plastic ,really Apple ???) .

They must've done something right because they sold like crazy, there is still tons and tons of them flying around here. Lol Apple couldn't do anodization right so they tried plastic :p
 
iOS 11 will have a simple interface. No screen, no buttons. Just shake it and saw "Siri call..." or "Sir, what is....?", etc.
 
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