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Fair enough, practically no one is working in America right now so we won’t get anything new until next week at earliest.

This is off topic, but what you stated is not entirely true.

Clearly you have never worked retail at this time of year. I just worked a 48hr week at Walmart, whose Black Friday sale is on Thanksgiving day. The only day we close is on Christmas day. But yes, "normal businesses", such as Apple are closed for a long period, around the holidays, such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.

The new betas will most likely come, as has been stated previously, after Apple is back and running again.
 
The phone issue is a deal breaker. Apple won't push this out as GM if people have issues sometimes opening the phone app and having it be unresponsive, esp in an emergency situation.

Also, I was under the impression that apple pushes out full installers to everyone on the beta channel once the GM is finalized.
That seems to be how it typically works. Sometimes its the exact same build# and sometimes they drop the "5" and "letter" in the last beta and push it as a new version.
 
This is off topic, but what you stated is not entirely true.

Clearly you have never worked retail at this time of year. I just worked a 48hr week at Walmart, whose Black Friday sale is on Thanksgiving day. The only day we close is on Christmas day. But yes, "normal businesses", such as Apple are closed for a long period, around the holidays, such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.

The new betas will most likely come, as has been stated previously, after Apple is back and running again.
Hey, I work at Target. I’m aware. Outside of retail, practically no one worked.
 
Looks like the final will be a new verision number but no new beta

With all those phone app issues popping up lately, there will be another beta prior the “GM”. My guess is, there will be at least a sixth beta delaying IOS 11.2. Apple can not afford to release an update where the main functionality does not work for 100 percent of the user.
 
is ios 11.2 going to be out before the new year ?

Welcome to the forums venomx999!

With the number of beta testers and registered developers working on the iOS mess known as 11, I'm surprised it isn't already available for install:rolleyes: I've been using Apple since the IIe and I don't remember software taking this long to drop. Feel free to refresh my memory though...
 
Welcome to the forums venomx999!

With the number of beta testers and registered developers working on the iOS mess known as 11, I'm surprised it isn't already available for install:rolleyes: I've been using Apple since the IIe and I don't remember software taking this long to drop. Feel free to refresh my memory though...
Software was dropping faster before?
 
It was for the macOS. I don't remember all these .1,.2,.3 iterations taking so long to debug. In fairness, I only started with the 4th gen. of iPhone. Even so...
Not even that many years ago a x.1 release would take almost half a year for iOS.
 
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