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Broken Hope

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Back to Apple:

I’m hearing that the “Month 13” issue is not that easy to fix, as it looks like it is an issue within SWIFT 4. It’s interesting for that point of view, as only apps already transferred (such as calendar, calculator) creates such log files. In macOS 10.13.3 they obliviously moved back to the previous SWIFT 3.

Doesn't look like it would be hard to fix at all

https://twitter.com/timacfr/status/938155405460623360

Seems to be a fairly simple error.

No idea why they are taking so long to fix it.
 

Paddle1

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Just to clarify: next Wednesday to next Friday (30th) are normal work days (even though the main part of the business is on vacation in Germany). This does not mean that important projects are totally off, there are lot of people on stand by in case of “emergencies”.

Back to Apple:

I’m hearing that the “Month 13” issue is not that easy to fix, as it looks like it is an issue within SWIFT 4. It’s interesting for that point of view, as only apps already transferred (such as calendar, calculator) creates such log files. In macOS 10.13.3 they obliviously moved back to the previous SWIFT 3.
I was wondering this, it could be a deeper issue that'll take time to fix, hence 11.2.5?
 

C DM

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Last time it was triggered, the device repeatedly crashes after a few minutes of use.
Was that really what was causing that, or is this something else (perhaps related or perhaps not)? And if it's not an issue as of iOS 11.2 what would make it an issue at some point?
 
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Paddle1

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Was that really what was causing that, or is this something else (perhaps related or perhaps not)? And if it's not an issue as of iOS 11.2.1 what would make it an issue at some point?
The respringing was attached to the date and according logs they appear to be connected.
But that's what I'm wondering. If this is the case, what did 11.2 do to temporarily fix this issue? Will it come up again at the end of the month?
I know that has been the issue on High Sierra, but if that were the case with iOS would not all iOS users be experiencing the same problem? Admitted ignorance to the problem.
The problem only appeared if you had certain apps on iOS sending preprogrammed time based notifications.
 

sunny2k1

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The resprings were caused by the Month 13 issue. That’s proven. It not only impacted the resprings. Also other core features (e.g. ApplePay) are affected. iOS 11.2 was just a placebo, which really didn’t fix the problem at all. As for macOS it had a dramatic impact to the performance on some macs.
 

sbailey4

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The resprings were caused by the Month 13 issue. That’s proven. It not only impacted the resprings. Also other core features (e.g. ApplePay) are affected. iOS 11.2 was just a placebo, which really didn’t fix the problem at all. As for macOS it had a dramatic impact to the performance on some macs.
Then why exactly was 11.2 emergency released on a Saturday am at 12:00 AM if not to be anything but a placebo? It makes no since that it did nothing to resolve that issue on Dec 2nd and they just released it in the middle of the night on a Saturday just for the heck of it. And in fact the folks who had an issue on Dec 2nd got resolution with 11.2 yes? Not being argumentative just curious how you arrive at your conclusions.
 

C DM

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The resprings were caused by the Month 13 issue. That’s proven. It not only impacted the resprings. Also other core features (e.g. ApplePay) are affected. iOS 11.2 was just a placebo, which really didn’t fix the problem at all. As for macOS it had a dramatic impact to the performance on some macs.
But what changed in 11.2 that got the resprings to stop (even though the warning/error is still there)?
 
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sunny2k1

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Then why exactly was 11.2 emergency released on a Saturday am at 12:00 AM if not to be anything but a placebo? It makes no since that it did nothing to resolve that issue on Dec 2nd and they just released it in the middle of the night on a Saturday just for the heck of it. And in fact the folks who had an issue on Dec 2nd got resolution with 11.2 yes? Not being argumentative just curious how you arrive at your conclusions.

But what changed in 11.2 that got the restrings to stop (even though the warning/error is still there)?

My assumption is that the multiple reboots of the phone during the OTA process caused to sort things out. The resprings are technically no reboots.

When I connected to iMazing console on Windows I got the Month 13 out of bounds.

That would support the theory, that something is wrong with coding language.
 

Paddle1

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My assumption is that the multiple reboots of the phone during the OTA process caused to sort things out. The resprings are technically no reboots.



That would support the theory, that something is wrong with coding language.
If rebooting fixed the issue then that shouldn't have required an update. 11.2 has to have something in it that stopped the respringing directly seeing as 11.2 beta users didn't experience the problem.
 
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sunny2k1

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If rebooting fixed the issue then that shouldn't have required an update. 11.2 has to have something in it that stopped the respringing directly seeing as 11.2 beta users didn't experience the problem.

The issue was caused by a specific configuration with local (non-icloud) notifications with customised repeat intervals. It does not matter which iOS version was on the device. I was on the beta version with my iPod touch and I had the issue (even with the latest then final beta).

iOS 11.2 final was just the placebo to solve the issue.
 

Chazzle

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The issue was caused by a specific configuration with local (non-icloud) notifications with customised repeat intervals. It does not matter which iOS version was on the device. I was on the beta version with my iPod touch and I had the issue (even with the latest then final beta).

iOS 11.2 final was just the placebo to solve the issue.
So how did you fix the issue on your iPod Touch?
 
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