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Mlrollin91

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It HAS been two weeks - to the day. B1 was released June 5....
He is referring to beta 3. If they release DP 2 this week, they would need a new DP for next week with the PB. Meaning beta 2->3 would only be 1 week.
 

lsutigerfan1976

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Please today, if there is a god.
Deliver us from the pain of no beta 2

Yeah but if you get a beta 2 today, what do you have to look forward to next week? Ah, see this is why Tim Cook is making you wait. Cause now you have something to look forward to. Lol!
 
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Dwalls90

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Makes me nervous that they will hold it back until next Monday/Tuesday then.

Based on the fact "Late" usually means last week of the month, and there typically only being a 2 day lag time between DP and PB.
 

Brammy

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All Developer Beta 2's came out within 15 days from Beta 1, aside for iOS 10 (22 days) and iOS 5 (18 days).

Does anyone know the date range between iOS 10 Developer Beta 2 and iOS 10 Public Beta 1?

Last year threw the math off. Until last year, anything more than 15 days was some weird one off that hadn't happened for a long time. The iOS 5.0 B1 was an 18 day cycle.

Last year was the first year b1 was 22 days AND had a PB released soon after b2. The question this year was: was least year a weird statistical aberration, or the new norm? Given Apple said a public beta "late June" and that "late June" by most people's estimations is the last week of June (and the fact that the last week in June is also a full week, and not some partial week where the 30th is a Wednesday or something), it's more likely than not that the new cycle is a 3 week beta 1 followed by a PB a few days after B2.

Which means Apple will release B2 today just to mess with us.
 
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stulaw11

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It is equally likely today as next Tuesday. "Late" June is still tomorrow tomorrow or Thursday for PB 1; unless to someone the 21/22nd of the month is somehow not "late" in the month.

The only OS with longer than a 15 day beta 1 in recent years as been 10.0 (since 8.2)
 

Mlrollin91

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Makes me nervous that they will hold it back until next Monday/Tuesday then.

Based on the fact "Late" usually means last week of the month, and there typically only being a 2 day lag time between DP and PB.
Thats exactly why nothing is coming out today.
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It is equally likely today as next Tuesday. "Late" June is still tomorrow tomorrow or Thursday for PB 1; unless someone the 21/22nd of the month is not "late" in the month.

The only OS with longer than a 15 day beta 1 in recent years as been 10.0 (since 8.2)
21st is not late of a month, at least not in Apple's definition. I've said this at least 5 times thus far. Look through Apple's software and hardware history. When they say "late" It means the last possible week.
 
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Mlrollin91

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Last year threw the math off. Until last year, anything more than 15 days was some weird one off that hadn't happened for a long time. The iOS 5.0 B1 was an 18 day cycle.

Last year was the first year b1 was 22 days AND had a PB released soon after b2. The question this year was: was least year a weird statistical aberration, or the new norm? Given Apple said a public beta "late June" and that "late June" by most people's estimations is the last week of June (and the fact that the last week in June is also a full week, and not some partial week where the 30th is a Wednesday or something), it's more likely than not that the new cycle is a 3 week beta 1 followed by a PB a few days after B2.

Which means Apple will release B2 today just to mess with us.
I agree with everything you said. Fixed that last sentence for you.
 

Mlrollin91

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Because Apple may surprise us, think about yesterday's mac os beta which break the rules...there was no IOS version released as well...
That has happened a dozen times in the last couple of years. If not more.

It literally happened with iOS 10.3.2 beta 5/macOS 10.12.5 beta 5. Or all the times that watchOS and tvOS don't get the same amount of betas as macOS/iOS.

Its possible beta 4 of iOS will drop today, getting them caught up. But this is not breaking any rules.

Its also possible iOS is done at beta 3 and there was a last minute fix for macOS. Hence the reason why watchOS and tvOS also didn't get an update.
 

BroadcastDoc

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I'm pretty amused at the way some of you are deeply analyzing the phase "late June", trying to assign some sort of meaning to it (full week vs. partial week, what "most people" think, etc.). Late June pretty much just means sometime between now and July 1st. :-D

The phrase "late June" is getting more scrutiny than the Zapruder film...
 

Mlrollin91

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I'm pretty amused at the way some of you are deeply analyzing the phase "late June", trying to assign some sort of meaning to it (full week vs. partial week, what "most people" think, etc.). Late June pretty much just means sometime between now and July 1st. :-D

The phrase "late June" is getting more scrutiny than the Zapruder film...
Well in all fairness when it's the only clue given by Apple. It's the only thing you have to analyze. Then on top of that, Apple has set precedent to what "late" of a month means.
 

robert1998

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Also, the fact that has some bugs that are very annoying are present may also lead to today's release, I just watched people complaining on this section on the forum...
 

Mlrollin91

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Also, the fact that has some bugs that are very annoying are present may also lead to today's release, I just watched people complaining on this section on the forum...
Very annoying bugs are not the same thing as an unstable or unusable device. Remember this is meant for developers to test apps. I am willing to bet at least 50% of the people here are only playing around with the beta and are not developers.

In addition to that, MacRumors is a tiny sample of the tens of thousands of people that are using the beta profile. Therefore, the results of those on MacRumors may not be proportional. Also, there is great variety of opinions here on the stability of the beta. I have only minor hiccups on my Air 2, but others with a 7 Plus say its a nightmare. Thats subjective to the person using the device.
 
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