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My internet is running at full speed

Mine is on preparing update now. Although lately this can take around 20mins!

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Superhappytree

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Is it just my internet or is it normal for it to go from 1 hour, to 40 mins, to 1 hour, to 30 mins then back to 1 hour again?

Edit: Never mind, it seems to be stabilised at 24 min now.
 
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gwhizkids

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Maybe you should read the whole thread. I posted 5hrs before your post that it was now showing and even included a screenshot of my OTA.....

Oh I read the whole thing. My statement stands.


You spent a number of posts arguing the beta had not been released because you weren’t seeing it OTA or on the Apple Developer download page. My post was simply a reiteration that the Apple Developer downloads page is almost never updated with a new beta when it drops but only some (sometimes many) minutes later. Thus, the non-existence of a new beta download on that page is not evidence for whether the beta has dropped or not.
 
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Dwalls90

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Guys, let s stay on topic.

Do you think public beta of iOS 12 will come this week?

Seeing as DP 2 seems to have more bugs than DP 1 (or at least as many), I'm almost hoping they either clean up the DP so we have a DP3 next Monday-Wednesday before releasing a PB1. That said, I can't see Apple rushing out a DP3 by middle of next week (that's well below the average 2 week window for early "major" betas) to allow some time for PB1 to drop before Friday of next week, and therefore if there is no DP3 before PB1, we may see PB1 as early as today or tomorrow.
 

sbailey4

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Guys, let s stay on topic.

Do you think public beta of iOS 12 will come this week?
I dont. I suspect next week and maybe even a beta 3 then PB. Seems there are still a lot of issues with b2 (maybe even worse than b1) for a public release. And it seems usually its at DP3 before public is released anyway. Just my 2 cents.
 
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gwhizkids

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Guys, let s stay on topic.

Do you think public beta of iOS 12 will come this week?
Agree re staying on topic.

I think there's a chance the PB will drop tomorrow (I don't think it will happen today). The one fly in the ointment is the GPS issue for what appear to be Intel modem-equipped phones. That, in my mind, is very close to a show-stopper type issue. There will be a lot more people on betas once public is released and having many of those people without fully functioning GPS capabilities is a big time liability issue for Apple, potentially. If I were a lawyer advising Apple, I would say "no public beta til that's fixed."
 

Dwalls90

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I dont. I suspect next week and maybe even a beta 3 then PB. Seems there are still a lot of issues with b2 (maybe even worse than b1) for a public release. And it seems usually its at DP3 before public is released anyway. Just my 2 cents.

Agree re staying on topic.

I think there's a chance the PB will drop tomorrow (I don't think it will happen today). The one fly in the ointment is the GPS issue for what appear to be Intel modem-equipped phones. That, in my mind, is very close to a show-stopper type issue. There will be a lot more people on betas once public is released and having many of those people without fully functioning GPS capabilities is a big time liability issue for Apple, potentially. If I were a lawyer advising Apple, I would say "no public beta til that's fixed."

PB1 won't drop on same date as a DB this early in the cycle, nor will a PB come out on a Friday or weekend. If the PB1 comes out by next Thursday at the latest (before end of June, per Apple), we need DB3 by next Wednesday at the latest. That means 8 days between DB2 and DB3, which I would find unrealistic this early in the cycle.

For what it's worth, for iOS 10, anyone with an MDM profile was unable to access the App store last year on the PB cycle until about mid/late July. That's a pretty big problem that isn't ideal, and therefore proves the point that Apple seems to deem it acceptable for some parts of iOS to not be fully functional even in public beta releases.

Based on these notions, I think PB1 will be the same build as DB2, and since DB2 dropped yesterday, we should see PB1 either today, tomorrow, or likely by Monday of next week. This is also consistent with the iOS 10 beta schedule.
 

gwhizkids

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PB1 won't drop on same date as a DB this early in the cycle, nor will a PB come out on a Friday or weekend. If the PB1 comes out by next Thursday at the latest (before end of June, per Apple), we need DB3 by next Wednesday at the latest. That means 8 days between DB2 and DB3, which I would find unrealistic this early in the cycle.

For what it's worth, for iOS 10, anyone with an MDM profile was unable to access the App store last year on the PB cycle until about mid/late July. That's a pretty big problem that isn't ideal, and therefore proves the point that Apple seems to deem it acceptable for some parts of iOS to not be fully functional even in public beta releases.

Based on these notions, I think PB1 will be the same build as DB2, and since DB2 dropped yesterday, we should see PB1 either today, tomorrow, or likely by Monday of next week. This is also consistent with the iOS 10 beta schedule.
All good arguments. The one key difference though between the iOS MDM profile issue and the GPS issue is life-safety, which is why I think we may see a delay. If the phone can't get a fix on its location e911 is potentially useless. Or Maps could misdirect someone onto a hazardous road, or the like. I'm actually surprised the GPS issue has not gotten more press, given the number of us who seem to be having issues with it.
 

Dwalls90

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All good arguments. The one key difference though between the iOS MDM profile issue and the GPS issue is life-safety, which is why I think we may see a delay. If the phone can't get a fix on its location e911 is potentially useless. Or Maps could misdirect someone onto a hazardous road, or the like. I'm actually surprised the GPS issue has not gotten more press, given the number of us who seem to be having issues with it.

Again, it's a beta. One should not expect complete functionality, nor using this software on your daily device. If GPS was broken in a public release, then I agree we'd surely see some media coverage on this.

Specifically regarding maps, I counter your argument with the fact that Apple Maps already gets you lost -- even with a perfectly functional GPS ;)
 
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