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So what’s the over/under the final build is released today?
watchOS has had one beta? I highly doubt public is coming today. macOS 10.14.2 is going to require more than 2 betas.

This is our typical X.2 beta cycle. Meaning early to mid December for final release.
 
BUT the US carriers have said eSim is out 11/17 so has to be released today or tomorrow.
Again, no. eSIM is already out. 12.1. Carriers can choose whenever they want to support it. I have been using my eSIM in the US already. Another update is not needed. They need to flip the switch.
 
Again, no. eSIM is already out. 12.1. Carriers can choose whenever they want to support it. I have been using my eSIM in the US already. Another update is not needed. They need to flip the switch.
Again, no. eSIM is already out. 12.1. Carriers can choose whenever they want to support it. I have been using my eSIM in the US already. Another update is not needed. They need to flip the switch.

True, but the visual voice mail issue is causing the delay at AT & T for one. Verizon with their issues.
 
True, but the visual voice mail issue is causing the delay at AT & T for one. Verizon with their issues.
Visual voicemail bugs are irrelevant to needing an update to launch eSIM on a network. 12.1.1 is not needed to launch eSIM on the 17th, which is a Saturday so I doubt its launching on the weekend.
 
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