All Devices iOS 13 Speculation Thread [Merged]

[C DM]

Well hopefully it's because they wizened up and thought to test it with the beta community to make sure nothing else broke before releasing another stinker to the general public.

Well, that would be more along the lines of 13.2.x.

 

[chillip]

I think macOS beta tomorrow and maybe Thursday Public release

You change your mind more than I change my pants!

 

[chillip]

I’m still hoping for 13.2.1 this week. Do we expect 13.3 public release before Christmas?

 

[Sparkletouch]

Xcode 11.2.1 GM comes with iOS 13.2.2 simulator. I think we will show iOS 13.2.2 shortly. Hope this day!

 

[Cobold]

I’m still hoping for 13.2.1 this week. Do we expect 13.3 public release before Christmas?

I do expect 13.3 public release well before Christmas.
13.2 was in beta-state from Oct. 2nd (beta 1) and got released on Oct. 28th.
So if we are getting a similar beta-timeframe with 13.3 betas, I expect 13.3 to be released during the first or maybe second week of December

 

[imagineadam]

Well hopefully it's because they wizened up and thought to test it with the beta community to make sure nothing else broke before releasing another stinker to the general public.

This is my thought in a way. The ram management fix in 13.3 is the same one already cooked up in 13.2.2 that they will release very soon but they wanted to check and make sure it didn’t break anything else big before releasing 13.2.2 to the public.

 

[mattburley7]

so pretty good chance we will get 13.2.2 today?

 

[TheSkywalker77]

so pretty good chance we will get 13.2.2 today?

Either that or a new Catalina beta.

 

[Blue Hawk]

If we get iOS 13.2.2 do you think the RAM management could be fixed there too? Or should I update to 13.3 when the public beta is out?

 

[Sparkletouch]

As Xcode 11.2.1 GM is released for an hot fix, (issues with older iOS lol, first time I see that, iOS developer since iPhone OS 2.0 lol), and comes with 13.2.2 simulator, I'm pretty sure 13.2.2 will fix the RAM MGMT.
As someone says, I think Apple release first iOS 13.3 beta just to be sure all is OK before release 13.2.2.

If we get iOS 13.2.2 do you think the RAM management could be fixed there too? Or should I update to 13.3 when the public beta is out?

 

[fantomcheung]

Kinda awkward that they released that as .3 as there seem to be nothing major in the update (yet).

Maybe some major features will come with later betas

 

[Sparkletouch]

At WWDC, we should see new Apple iOS leaders I think... Remember Scott Forstall... Fired just for Apple Maps (ok it was a little disaster, but iOS 6 was pretty stable).
iOS 13 is the buggiest OS Apple has ever made. Just unusable as a daily professionnal phone.

But I keep faith in Apple

 

[fantomcheung]

At WWDC, we should see new Apple iOS leaders I think... Remember Scott Forstall... Fired just for Apple Maps (ok it was a little disaster, but iOS 6 was pretty stable).
iOS 13 is the buggiest OS Apple has ever made. Just unusable as a daily professionnal phone.

But I keep faith in Apple

iOS 13 has been rock solid on my iPhone XS Max。

 

[iphone6smkd]

Still no bug fix update :/

 

[dgreening]

At WWDC, we should see new Apple iOS leaders I think... Remember Scott Forstall... Fired just for Apple Maps (ok it was a little disaster, but iOS 6 was pretty stable).
iOS 13 is the buggiest OS Apple has ever made. Just unusable as a daily professionnal phone.

But I keep faith in Apple

I must be using my phone wrong, I don't seem to have any issues that keep it from doing what I want it to do.

 

[Sparkletouch]

I must be using my phone wrong, I don't seem to have any issues that keep it from doing what I want it to do.

I just want to say that for a professional use, because constantly background apps killed, broken iOS SDK, Xcode crash 10 times/day, it's just awful.
But I agree, for a regular use, iOS 13 (not iOS 13.2 cause RAM mgmt) is not ALL buggy.

 

[TheSkywalker77]

If we get iOS 13.2.2 do you think the RAM management could be fixed there too? Or should I update to 13.3 when the public beta is out?

RAM management will most likely be fixed in 13.2.2. Apple fixed it in 13.3 so they’re clearly aware of it, and it’d be flat out dumb to not fix it in 13.2.2.

 

[dan9700]

Today macos and public beta of 13.3 and they don’t release public final versions so if anything today public betas and tomorrow 13.2.2

 

[norm2816]

Did anyone else have issues updating their watch to 6.1.1? I had to reset my watch for the update to work successfully. It wouldn't get past verifying update unless I reset the watch? Rebooting didn't work either.. and before the mods think it's off-topic, you should create a thread for WatchOS beta software...

 

[Channelsurfer63]

Did anyone else have issues updating their watch to 6.1.1? I had to reset my watch for the update to work successfully. It wouldn't get past verifying update unless I reset the watch? Rebooting didn't work either.. and before the mods think it's off-topic, you should create a thread for WatchOS beta software...

Also had issues updating watch after my XSM was successfully updated to 13.3b1, in my case I have temporarily given up on the Watch update as it would constantly pause when downloading to the version 4 watch.
At this point I really don't know if this is an issue with IOS 13.3b1 and its quirky wifi (in my experience) and if I need to perform a full restore, or just wait for another build before trying clean installs.
Glad your watch finally took, did you identify anything new in the .1 incremental watchOS build?

 

[TheSkywalker77]

No iOS release. Any update for macOS?

 

[tosbsas]

Public Beta is out

 

[TheSkywalker77]

Public Beta is out

For 13.3?

 

[norm2816]

Also had issues updating watch after my XSM was successfully updated to 13.3b1, in my case I have temporarily given up on the Watch update as it would constantly pause when downloading to the version 4 watch.
At this point I really don't know if this is an issue with IOS 13.3b1 and its quirky wifi (in my experience) and if I need to perform a full restore, or just wait for another build before trying clean installs.
Glad your watch finally took, did you identify anything new in the .1 incremental watchOS build?

I didn't get a chance to really look at everything the update download took about 5-6 hours to complete the second time around for some reason, installing happened overnight. I will assess when I have more time.

I should mention that I wasn't the only one on the network so that could be why it took that long to download 1.4GB.

 

[dan9700]

Told u they never release a public version when they are gonna stop a public beta, my guess is tomorrow or next week a public release