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Did you actually try it before you commented? The light turns off as soon as I open the camera for pictures or video. My devices are iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPad Pro 12.9", both running latest iOS beta.
Yes, I actually tried it before, but I said “at least on my devices” because I was expecting such an answer... Fortunately someone already explained to you how to do it. Maybe not the fix you were expecting, but at least it does what you need.

Now, let’s talk about iOS 14.5 beta 7. It’s being reliable (connectivity wise) enough for you to jump straight to 14.5 or no? On which device?
 
The iPhone is "designed" to constantly improve and evolve. My iPhone 12 Pro Max is much better than your iPhone 8.

Using the flashlight while taking pictures is quite doable for iPhone. The flashlight is already right there, right.
I think the point was its not a flashlight but a camera flash that can be used as a flashlight when not taking pictures. Anyway options are ok but I wonder really how many people would even care about such an option? I am sure they cant make every option for every one off case or it would be a total mess. Heck they struggle making the things they DO support work correctly :)
 
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The iPhone is "designed" to constantly improve and evolve. My iPhone 12 Pro Max is much better than your iPhone 8.

Using the flashlight while taking pictures is quite doable for iPhone. The flashlight is already right there, right.

Yeah. And the phone could theoretically play music while you talk on the phone. No doubt someone out there wants this. But most don’t.

Apple designed the flash to assist in low light and fill light situations. That’s adequate for about, oh, 99.9% of users. Why would they do something different that accomplishes the same thing as an existing feature?
 
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Spent a bit of time over the last few days taking all kinds of shots. Was vacationing for a week.
I see no improvement with the Camera for Beta 7. The lack of detail likely from processing (softening) is still present. Switching to the 2.5 lens does not always trigger use of that lense (stay stuck with the 1x lens). The correct lens selection works just fine using Halide.

For Halide users, I have run into an issue where the app is slow to focus if the distance is under 18” using AF and 2.5
I can confirm this..... Hope they fix this soon bro... 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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Yes, I actually tried it before, but I said “at least on my devices” because I was expecting such an answer... Fortunately someone already explained to you how to do it. Maybe not the fix you were expecting, but at least it does what you need.

Now, let’s talk about iOS 14.5 beta 7. It’s being reliable (connectivity wise) enough for you to jump straight to 14.5 or no? On which device?
I am running the latest 14.5 beta on iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPad Pro 12.9". I am not having issues with connectivity.

I am also running the latest Big Sur beta on my Mac mini M1. I am not having problems with connectivity. The only issue I have, that other people are having, is the mini will not awaken my display (LG HDR 4k 27") if it comes out of sleep mode.
 
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I think the point was its not a flash light but a camera flash that can be used as a flashlight when not taking pictures. Anyway options are ok but I wonder really how many people would even care about such an option? I am sure they cant make every option for every one off case or it would be a total mess. Heck they struggle making the things they DO support work correctly :)
It would be a good option and easy to implement. Video recording can already have the light on.

The light can be different colours. For example red. Many insects can't see red light. You can shoot pictures of insects in the dark in red light.

It would also be useful when taking pictures of research material indoors. Most of the time lighting is overhead and holding the iPhone to take pictures blocks light and casts shadows. Turning on the flashlight would remove unwanted shadows.

Taking pictures in dark spaces, the flashlight should be on.
 
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I know this is a uh feature request that will never happen in iOS 14, but can we have per-app volume control? Windows has that built in since Windows Vista, but macOS dont have such setting, nor iOS.
 
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12PM - Camera

Spent a bit of time over the last few days taking all kinds of shots. Was vacationing for a week.
I see no improvement with the Camera for Beta 7. The lack of detail likely from processing (softening) is still present. Switching to the 2.5 lens does not always trigger use of that lense (stay stuck with the 1x lens). The correct lens selection works just fine using Halide.

For Halide users, I have run into an issue where the app is slow to focus if the distance is under 18” using AF and 2.5
Just shooted two photos, same exact moment. One with camera stock app 2,5x lens ( I put the finger on 1x lens and saw that actually it was using 2,5x lens) and THE other with 2,5x lens using Halide. The difference is clearly...Halide does it much better. There must be some software issue with Apple camera app processing.

I post both photos zoomed in so you can see better the difference.
 

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I know this is a uh feature request that will never happen in iOS 14, but can we have per-app volume control? Windows has that built in since Windows Vista, but macOS dont have such setting, nor iOS.
The program "SoundSource" will give you per app redirection and volume control for MacOS.
 
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Just shooted two photos, same exact moment. One with camera stock app 2,5x lens ( I put the finger on 1x lens and saw that actually it was using 2,5x lens) and THE other with 2,5x lens using Halide. The difference is clearly...Halide does it much better. There must be some software issue with Apple camera app processing.

I post both photos zoomed in so you can see better the difference.

I see virtually no difference between the 2 photos. The one at the bottom is perhaps a quarter stop more exposed. If you’re going to post these comparison photos, you really need to get zoomed into a leaf or other similarly detailed item and point out the differences.
 
It would be a good option and easy to implement. Video recording can already have the light on.

The light can be different colours. For example red. Many insects can't see red light. You can shoot pictures of insects in the dark in red light.

It would also be useful when taking pictures of research material indoors. Most of the time lighting is overhead and holding the iPhone to take pictures blocks light and casts shadows. Turning on the flashlight would remove unwanted shadows.

Taking pictures in dark spaces, the flashlight should be on.
The reason there isn’t an option for flashlight being constantly on is because it’s not needed. If you’re shooting in a dark space, you’ll notice right before you snap a picture, the flash comes on, the camera ‘buffers’ whatever you’re shooting and then the flash syncs with your camera shutter to take the picture, computational photography does the rest and viola, you have a picture taken in the dark. Having the flash on constantly would just be a wasteful use of battery. The above mentioned process of course doesn’t work in video mode, and hence why that option exists in that mode.

Don’t get me wrong, I did read your justification on why you want it being in the camera app above and while that does make sense, the truth is, the iPhone’s camera app was designed to ‘just work’. It is by far the most simple default camera App out there. Truth is 95% folks out there don’t care about shadows or the little nuances in their pictures as long as their pictures turn out great. For the 5% of folks out there like yourself, there’s a lot of alternatives on the App Store to fit your specific needs.
 
I see virtually no difference between the 2 photos. The one at the bottom is perhaps a quarter stop more exposed. If you’re going to post these comparison photos, you really need to get zoomed into a leaf or other similarly detailed item and point out the differences.
There you got, the blurriest is camera stock app. The second is Halide app
 

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There you got, the blurriest is camera stock app. The second is Halide app

Fair enough. But let me ask some other questions:

-Were these taken on a tripod?
-Was portrait mode active in either?
-What was the focus point in each photo?
 
The reason there isn’t an option for flashlight being constantly on is because it’s not needed. If you’re shooting in a dark space, you’ll notice right before you snap a picture, the flash comes on, the camera ‘buffers’ whatever you’re shooting and then the flash syncs with your camera shutter to take the picture, computational photography does the rest and viola, you have a picture taken in the dark. Having the flash on constantly would just be a wasteful use of battery. The above mentioned process of course doesn’t work in video mode, and hence why that option exists in that mode.

Don’t get me wrong, I did read your justification on why you want it being in the camera app above and while that does make sense, the truth is, the iPhone’s camera app was designed to ‘just work’. It is by far the most simple default camera App out there. Truth is 95% folks out there don’t care about shadows or the little nuances in their pictures as long as their pictures turn out great. For the 5% of folks out there like yourself, there’s a lot of alternatives on the App Store to fit your specific needs.
If you're shooting in the dark it's dark if the flashlight is not on. You can see in the dark? If I can't use the iPhone flashlight to get around in the dark I have to hold 2 things, a flashlight and the iPhone.

Why are people trying to complicate such a simple feature. The light is already on the phone. I would like the option to use it like a flashlight while taking a picture.
 
Fair enough. But let me ask some other questions:

-Were these taken on a tripod?
-Was portrait mode active in either?
-What was the focus point in each photo?
Not a tripod. Both hand helded but very stable.
Not portrait mode. Just normal 2,5x
The focus was on the tree in both
 
Yikes. Battery draining fast on both my iPhone 12 Pro & my S6 Apple Watch. I’m charging both 2+ times a day now. I’m used to the indexing and whatnot after an update, but this is just bad. There’s gotta be some kind of logging going on or something.

::Edit:: Three times today my watch has dropped to 10% battery. At one point I was easily going a full day up until bed on one charge. Sometimes I’d wear it to bed and just charge it in the shower. Good for the day. Not anymore.
I notice the on both 11PM and AW S6. Battery life n Beta 6 was pretty solid and dropped significantly on b7. Thank god I‘m not alone 😉
 
Fair enough. But let me ask some other questions:

-Were these taken on a tripod?
-Was portrait mode active in either?
-What was the focus point in each photo?

Someone is getting nit-pick and I fail to understand your motivation.
Some of mine I use a tripod, others I do not. Mostly I do not. The issue exists for each. I have posted both.
It originally came to light a few beta’s ago in 14.5. First observed doing low light photos. Suspected cause is a change to the post pic processing in stock iOS.
 
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If you're shooting in the dark it's dark if the flashlight is not on. You can see in the dark? If I can't use the iPhone flashlight to get around in the dark I have to hold 2 things, a flashlight and the iPhone.

Why are people trying to complicate such a simple feature. The light is already on the phone. I would like the option to use it like a flashlight while taking a picture.
If you’re shooting in an environment where you can’t see anything, why would you be shooting anything at all? Have you used a dslr? Have you ever seen any actual camera that allows you to turn the flash on before you shoot? What you’re stating here is an unrealistic scenario. If you’re shooting in pitch dark environments, where even your eyes don’t see anything, you will more than likely be shooting a long exposure, for which you don’t need a flash.

Now if you’re actively looking for a subject to shoot in the dark where you can’t see even the slightest with your own eyes (that is what you’re stating, since you said you absolutely need flash), I recommend you turn on the torch, find what you want to shoot, then take a picture. To be fair, even in this absurd scenario, the 12 Pro max previews in real time what it sees with night mode, so you can see what you want to shoot, even if your eyes can’t, but I’m beginning to think you’re not someone who will listen to whatever anyone says. I’m sure Apple’s computational photography algorithms will help you out once you’ve searched for a subject in pitch darkness by the same method(s) I’ve mentioned.

If this ‘feature’ is so important to you, I’d recommend you switch to a plethora of android phones that I’m sure you know have said feature and if you want to stick to an iPhone, as I said, there will be a ton of third party apps on the App Store.

Any company will focus on the needs of the majority of its costumers. What you’re talking about is something which is 99% of people won’t care about. You can try to give feedback to Apple asking them to add this instead of whining about it on a forum for discussing bugs and changes on a beta and hope for a miracle, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
 
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