iOS 14 is literally Android

[1144557]

yeah because all Apple does is copy other phones right.

It's hilarious as if Android has NEVER borrowed anything from iOS

Like new stuff in Android 11, privacy control per app (popup for location etc), as well as the gesture navigation from iphone X and up. How about IR face unlock on Pixel 4? Puhhhhhlease

 

[TheRealAlex]

I'm sorry, but as someone who has both an iPhone and Android, I found the presentation hilarious, especially when Craig was talking about the exciting new features that have existed on Android for several years 🤣 specifically:

- Widgets on the home screen. We had that for years
- Picture in picture. Also had it for a very long time
- Improved Siri, so...Google Assistant? Hopefully something on that level
- Sending audio messages with voice control. Yup, also exists on Android
- Siri translations, aka...Google Translate? With conversation mode like...Google Translate? And also works offline like...Google Translate?
- Better maps, aka...Google Maps?

Not gonna lie, I thought auto-organized apps are a great idea and the new conversation features are neat, and of course, there are other features that make iOS different. But these parts made genuinely chuckle.

100% I have a Samsung Note 10 Plus, 6.8” OLED display and a Smart Pen built into the phone and 4,000 mah Fast charging LithiumIon battery Running Android.

In every way Possible. This phone and Operating system is significantly superior and more advanced than an iPhone 11 Pro MAX and iOS

Apple is just playing catch up. Oh I have a smart Pen, that works just like an Apple Pencil inside my phone so do I call this an iPad Pro Mini ?

 

[eoblaed]

I'm sorry, but as someone who has both an iPhone and Android, I found the presentation hilarious, especially when Craig was talking about the exciting new features that have existed on Android for several years

This type of 'gotcha' or 'lulz' is ill-informed.

No one on an iPhone is concerned about how many decades Android has had feature X before it shows up on iPhone. For people that genuinely prefer iOS devices, and especially those who are tied into the ecosystem and therefore are highly unlikely to ever give up that iPhone (eg. me), when iOS gets a new feature (whether it be a significant piece of functionality or just a quality of life enhancement) iPhone users are happy, or even excited, that they/we have our preferred OS/device/ecosystem-integration and that new (to iOS) feature too. The fact that it pre-existed on Android is of no relevance.

 

[compwiz1202]

You may be right, but if iOS copies all the amazing stuff from Android, yet also keeps all of the general speed, snappiness, efficiency, privacy, iMessage/Find My/Facetime, and app support that it already has... iOS will be the undisputed mobile OS king.

I'm saying that as a smartphone enthusiast who switches back and forth between iOS and Android every year. I am a current Pixel 4 owner on the latest Android 11 Beta. There's nothing in this latest update that really excites me.

And if iOS states a version is coming out on MM/DD/YYYY is sure as heck is for every device that supports it, which go back way longer than an Android would ever be supported. Even when I got my GS8+ shortly after launch, they pulled the BS Oreo coming "soon" for so long, I bailed again. They were even slacking on security updates.

 

[Rogifan]

To me copying only applies if you’re doing something exactly the same way as someone else or if it looks exactly the same. Like Chinese companies that would make phones that looked exactly like an iPhone or software that looked exactly like iOS. I don’t think iOS 14 widgets look like Android or Windows Phone. If anything they take their cues from the Mac.

 

[noblesoul117]

To me copying only applies if you’re doing something exactly the same way as someone else or if it looks exactly the same. Like Chinese companies that would make phones that looked exactly like an iPhone or software that looked exactly like iOS. I don’t think iOS 14 widgets look like Android or Windows Phone. If anything they take their cues from the Mac.

I think this is actually an important distinction.

This may not be 100%, but when Apple "copies," they're simply taking a universally-acceptable concept (like widgets or notifications), then filtering that concept into their own style and implementing it how they want. They copy the essence of something and alter or improve upon it, or sometimes minimize it to make it fit their approach better. But I don't know if they have ever truly taken something from Android or Windows, and just plastered it into iOS and macOS? Even with things that have been "copied" from Jailbreak tweaks, I don't think they were ever 100%.

I suppose it's the difference between patents and plagiarism, and an artistic license on innovation/iteration with something that's universal.

 

[Rogifan]

I think this is actually an important distinction.

This may not be 100%, but when Apple "copies," they're simply taking a universally-acceptable concept (like widgets or notifications), then filtering that concept into their own style and implementing it how they want. They copy the essence of something and alter or improve upon it, or sometimes minimize it to make it fit their approach better. But I don't know if they have ever truly taken something from Android or Windows, and just plastered it into iOS and macOS? Even with things that have been "copied" from Jailbreak tweaks, I don't think they were ever 100%.

I suppose it's the difference between patents and plagiarism, and an artistic license on innovation/iteration with something that's universal.

Apple had widgets on the Mac since, what, 2001? I remember using gadgets on Windows XP. To me iOS 14 widgets don’t look anything like Windows phone. To me Windows phone was very monochromatic; there was a sameness to everything. It looked very clean but also hard to read because every square tile looked similar. And especially hard to read when tiles allowed the background wallpaper to show through.

Apple’s implementation could look good but could also look like a hot mess if people have a screen cluttered up with a bunch of widgets of different sizes co-mingled with app icons. I have all my apps in folders now so my home screen is very clean. What I’ll probably do is make my home screen just a couple widgets and then access everything else from the app library.

 

[Zelegorm]

Hm. Now android has to do something by themselves. Oh. Problem. They can‘t. Because they have to copy somewhere 😂

 

[nfl46]

Well, I've just watched MKBHD, and he is saying pretty much the exact content of my post 🤣

starting mostly from 2:30

It's time for a haircut, MKBHD. I believe the NJ/NY area is in Phase 2 now, so barbers should be available, lol.

 

[thadoggfather]

It's time for a haircut, MKBHD. I believe the NJ/NY area is in Phase 2 now, so barbers should be available, lol.

Being able to use a clothes iron never 'closed down,' but alas...

 

[BvizioN]

Well, I've just watched MKBHD, and he is saying pretty much the exact content of my post 🤣

starting mostly from 2:30

Nice try. He never said iO 14 is literally Android like you did ( which is pretty stupid claim, no offence) but what he said is “kind of.. like Android” when talking about Siri btw, There is a big difference on the way it is said. Obviously there are a lot of things these OS do similarly but make no mistake, both OS can not be anymore different. They both borrow ideas from each other. Ideas however can’t be copied or copyrighted , the way that they are implemented, can.
Widges by the way, have never been invented by Google and you know it.

 

[darngooddesign]

Apple had widgets on the Mac since, what, 2001?...

I had widgets as DAs on MacOS 6 back in 1989 and I had a stylus and app drawer on my Newton in the 90s.

 

[pixel_junkie]

At some point, maybe 2 years ago, Apple finally snapped out of it. Woke up from a deep sleep. Had a moment of $clarity$.

FINALY started listening to their users more. Closing the gap on the competition while introducing new, really useful and well throughout features. And as always improving privacy.

Hard to find a reason to ever go to Android anymore.

 

[compwiz1202]

Who cares? I just want the best end-user experience on my phone. I don’t care if Apple invented it, copied it, or what. If Android come up with a great feature, of course I want it on my iPhone. And if Apple can improve it, all the better. Can’t be doing with all this iOS v Android ”my phone is better than yours“ stuff, it’s just adolescent insecurity.

Features were really the only thing I missed from Android. Now we have pinned convos and skipping an alarm, so I don't know if I miss anything now.

EDIT: Still miss Iris Scanning. That always worked great for me and would be mask immune. Face never worked for me on Androids.

 

[cfurlin]

I'm sorry, but as someone who has both an iPhone and Android, blah blah blah...

iOS is too privacy-focused to be like Android.

 

[joshwithachance]

At some point, maybe 2 years ago, Apple finally snapped out of it. Woke up from a deep sleep. Had a moment of $clarity$.

FINALY started listening to their users more. Closing the gap on the competition while introducing new, really useful and well throughout features. And as always improving privacy.

Hard to find a reason to ever go to Android anymore.

Galaxy Fold.

 

[C. Robert]

Androids widgets are terrible and have always been terrible. They are mostly eye candy with horrible function. Android is a hot mess and it will always be as long as it supports so many OEM’s. When I walk into the android portion of a Best Buy or electronic store all is see are odd shapes, orange buttons, long skinny phones, 1970 psychedelic colors, and lots of plastic.

 

[barondebxl]

iOS 14 is definitely heavily inspired by android but that’s a good thing. I’m sure some iOS users are going to think that those features came to existence with iOS... no sir

 

[barondebxl]

Androids widgets are terrible and have always been terrible. They are mostly eye candy with horrible function. Android is a hot mess and it will always be as long as it supports so many OEM’s. When I walk into the android portion of a Best Buy or electronic store all is see are odd shapes, orange buttons, long skinny phones, 1970 psychedelic colors, and lots of plastic.

Android is an excellent OS with lots of features and customization and Apple just copied some of it. Those same features that you will get to enjoy this fall

 

[barondebxl]

Lame flame.
Provide the time code where they claimed to have invented widgets. And they did invent google maps if you recall. Show me the google translate that works offline. And who was first with a voice assistant again?
Plus, I’d like to see you point to a droid that has system wide voice control accessibility features like iOS 13 has.

Also, literally, you misused that word.

Who was the first with voice assistant? What the point of being the first when you are far behind the competition? There is no doubt in anyone’s mind that google assistant is far superior than Siri, they not in the same league. Don’t even try to retort that

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I don’t think iOS 14 widgets look like Android or Windows Phone. If anything they take their cues from the Mac.

I agree.

I posted this below in another thread.

"I personally like widgets that look like it's part of the home screen. Plenty of Android widgets have background transparency, font, color, and etc, settings to make them perfectly blend in or seem like it's a part of the wallpaper. And I like the fact there's no visible borders."

 

[barbu]

Who was the first with voice assistant? What the point of being the first when you are far behind the competition? There is no doubt in anyone’s mind that google assistant is far superior than Siri, they not in the same league. Don’t even try to retort that

thank you for debunking the premise of the thread better than I could.

 

[barondebxl]

thank you for debunking the premise of the thread better than I could.

Well iOS isn’t android since iOS was here before android. We know that it’s a fact, it was just poor choice of words ok from OP but we also know that IOS 14 is inspired by android. That’s all. iPhone users shouldn’t get mad about that

 

[now i see it]

Nobody who uses an iPhone cares about Android.

 

[barondebxl]

Nobody who uses an iPhone cares about Android.

Apple does. Using a XS alongside My S10