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iOS 15.4 Beta 5 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

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OhMyMy said:
Unlike everyone on this forum he’s directly involved with the development of the iOS. So you can’t know for a fact and definitely not better than him.

Are you even involved in any sort of software development at all? You knowing something without any kind of proof besides your personal experience would be considered an opinion which isn’t the same as a fact.
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I don’t know better than Craig, of course I don’t!

I was just saying, you’ve miss read my message, I don’t believe the physical nature of that screen grabbed email.

Prove to me that screen grab is from a real conversation, as I could knock one of those up from Tim proclaiming all sorts of things and share it with the group to say it’s truth.

And bottom line anyway, regardless, they both have had different effects on an iphone, I’ve seen it with my own eyes and many others in this community have reported it and discussed the differences of an OTA and IPSW - when there shouldn’t be one, but there is.
 
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OhMyMy said:
It matters if someone who’s not involved in development is questioning an expert in the field.
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Dude, your basing this statement from a screen grab, you have absolutely no certainty of it’s legitimacy as being a real conversation or fact, unless it’s from your personal email and you are the recipient?

So if you are, please tell Craig there are issues with OTA and IPSW updating outcomes, when there shouldn’t be as both are apparently, equal.
 
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Pearsey said:
Dude, your basing this statement from a screen grab, you have absolutely no certainty of it’s legitimacy as being a real conversation or fact, unless it’s from your personal email and you are the recipient?

So if you are, please tell Craig there are issues with OTA and IPSW updating outcomes, when there shouldn’t be as both are apparently, equal.
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That’s from my own personal email. I emailed him this morning and luckily he responded the same day. I wouldn’t post someone else’s screenshot.
The only things missing from the screenshot are my name and my email.
 
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Pearsey said:
Developer account with Apple.
Thought it was a very simple answer ?
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Ah ok thanks. New to this on apple you know ? not that I have had any issues I know of with OTA so far.

On windows I can build a beta or dev iso and do a full install update from it, no account needed.
 
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OhMyMy said:
That’s from my own personal email. I emailed him this morning and luckily he responded the same day. I wouldn’t post someone else’s screenshot.
The only things missing from the screenshot are my name and my email.
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?

He’s going to love you sharing to the world his personal email.

EDIT: screen grab of “email” and Craig’s email address was posted but now been deleted.
 
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OhMyMy said:
It matters if someone who’s not involved in development is questioning an expert in the field. Preference is another thing. I usually do OTAs myself and only IPSW when I’m having any problems. I’ve been thinking that OTAs do the whole copy to replace till now but apparently that’s not the case.

In the end it’s up to the individual user to proceed how they choose. But at least the longstanding question as to which is better has been answered.
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That’s my issue too in the past, exactly what you said in your message “I usually do OTAs myself and only IPSW when I’m having any problems” I don’t want to have any issues if I can avoid it that’s why I do the extra work but I think it’s funny when people have issue they revert to installing with IPSW when something goes sideways with OTA but Craig says there the same. Debate will always go on. Like I said whatever makes people feel good and thinks is better for them do it !! Looking forward to RC. ??
 
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Bobout said:
That’s my issue too in the past, exactly what you said in your message “I usually do OTAs myself and only IPSW when I’m having any problems” I don’t want to have any issues if I can avoid it that’s why I do the extra work but I think it’s funny when people have issue they revert to installing with IPSW when something goes sideways with OTA but Craig says there the same. Debate will always go on. Like I said whatever makes people feel good and thinks is better for them do it !! Looking forward to RC. ??
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If there's only one way to pass the cryptographic check then I'm sure it's fine to do OTA. The problems people see might come down to the millions of diff configs that come from hundreds of apps installed. on various models. At least now we have solid info from an expert direct from Apple instead of convincing theories online. And most of the issues after an OTA could be resolved from a reset of Settings or an update from Apple. Different versions, different configs different problems. I'm not totally surprised.
 
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OhMyMy said:
If there's only one way to pass the cryptographic check then I'm sure it's fine to do OTA. The problems people see might come down to the millions of diff configs that come from hundreds of apps installed. on various models. At least now we have solid info from an expert direct from Apple instead of convincing theories online. And most of the issues after an OTA could be resolved from a reset of Settings or an update from Apple. Different versions, different configs different problems. I'm not totally surprised.
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Dearest Craig,

My friend Ohmymy, (attached a screen grab of your email convo you shared) and I understand the process behind a OTA and use of a IPSW to end in the same result, but it doesn’t.

If you would like to talk more on the subject please email when you have the time, I’d rather you spend it making iOS 16 amazing though. But I’ve got your email, (attached a screen grab of you sharing that to everyone) should I need it for any other questions.

sorry for any spam you might receive in the future.

Love Pearsey

(Tortoise humping a broom giphy attached here)
 
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Anyone else having weird flickering issue when playing back a 240 Slow-Mo recorded on their 13 Pro? I haven't tested it on 15.3.1 but it sure does on this beta.
 
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Apple still can’t get their camera software right. ?‍♂️
Looks like the camera doesn’t know where it wants to focus. ?

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OhMyMy said:
Anyone else having weird flickering issue when playing back a 240 Slow-Mo recorded on their 13 Pro? I haven't tested it on 15.3.1 but it sure does on this beta.
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Pretty sure that’s normal with slo mo video, that’s the effect you normally get when playing back a slo mo video.

Just tested it and noticed some flickering, nothing to worry about, totally normal.
 
LFC2020 said:
Pretty sure that’s normal with slo mo video, that’s the effect you normally get when playing back a slo mo video.

Just tested and noticed some flickering, nothing to worry about, totally normal.
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That's really not fair! It happens on iPhone 12 (15.3.1) too. Will have to test it in daylight.
 
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OhMyMy said:
The almighty Craig Federighi himself can put an end to the debate and any lingering doubts. He says OTA or IPSW shouldn't make any difference as the OS has checks in place and that there's only one way about it.
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If I understand correctly, Craig said, updating using either ipsw (using option-update) or OTA will result the same. The answer is the same since the installed binary will be checksum for integrity check.
And… this is different than what being discussed here, whether we need to reinstall the OS (using option-restore) which will wipe everything on the phone storage (including some leftover config files etc), or just simply run update (either OTA or thru ipsw file). We don’t know for sure what happen with those leftover files if updating. In Mac these files shouldn’t affect anymore - assuming the update process run smoothly.

Again, nothing wrong with directly update (via OTA or ipsw) - as Apple recommends us. But in case of having issues (like mine, where battery drains overnight, phone frequently become warm, and large system files) the reinstall method can be an option - and it worked for me.
 
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Isamilis said:
Again, nothing wrong with directly update (via OTA or ipsw) - as Apple recommends us. But in case of having issues (like mine, where battery drains overnight and phone frequently become warm) the reinstall method can be an option.
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Or buy a android phone, no IPSW updates on them phones. ?
 
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adrianlondon said:
The wrong way: what everyone else does which seems to mess up their phone.
The right way: the way I do it as my phone works perfectly.

I use the OTA method; never had issues.
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As long as they know what they’re doing, let them have at it.

I’m not against either method, pick your poison and hope for the best lol.

Everyone else at the moment that’s not engaged in the OTA vs IPSW debate. ?

 
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