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iOS 17.2 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements
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Hmm, I’m finding 17.2 very solid on both a 15 PMax and 13 Mini. If anything, the WiFi on the 15 PM is perhaps the best I’ve yet had it. It’s stopped dropping connections out of the blue.
Fingers crossed this keeps up, gotta say it’s a welcome surprise.
Fingers crossed this keeps up, gotta say it’s a welcome surprise.
Once Google Maps updated the problem was eliminated.
How do you keep track of which device is using each band (2.4ghz vs 5ghz vs 6ghz)? I remember that you said before that you aren't using separate SSIDs for each band, so how do you determine what's getting connectected to what? Typically, in that kind of scenario, the device/router switches the bands depending on signal/distance/etc. So are you sure that your other devices aren't switching to 5ghz, or 2.4ghz when you get more than 10ft from your router? Is it possible that the iPhone is staying on a 6ghz band longer than the other devices, thus giving worse performance due to a worse connection? Just a thought 🧐
My Android devices indicate what band they are on. My Thinkpad does the same.
I did a split SSID a week back to test and once beyond approx 20ft the 15PM swaps to 5.
Everything is back under one on my router as a split left my devices unable to connect to my printer (on 2.4).
Yes that is one way, which I was using before. But now I do it in terminal as follows:
After the sync starts, run this in terminal:
Code:
ps aux|grep CrashIt lists a few processes with various associated pids. Note MDCrashReportTool won't be there unless a sync has started.
Copy the Process ID associated with MDCrashReportTool and run this:
Code:
sudo kill -9 <pid>being careful to copy the associated Process ID correctly. It may prompt for a password and if so, enter it.
You will then notice the sync resumes and runs to completion.
It looks like a longer way to do it but once you get used to it it is actually quicker than the activity monitor method.
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I couldn’t figure it out. Is there a setting somewhere?Anyone know how to remove MLS Season Pass from the Apple TV app (on all devices) please? I’m really hoping this isn’t something else Apple are forcing on us without any option to remove it!!
From my experience, I'd say that's caused by older macOS bugs that have not been fixed for years.
Five macOS versions ago, with the introduction of macOS Catalina, iTunes was discontinued and replaced by a combination of several apps (which made perfect sense from design standpoint, IMHO). Since then, iPhone synchronisation takes place via the Finder.
Problem is, this Finder integration has never ever worked as intended.
There were always many bugs causing periodic problems in this field. If this is really still not working properly in the current Sonoma release, my assumption would be that we all have to wait for a bugfix to come up one fine day...maybe after some more years
There was no sync delay in 17.2b4From my experience, I'd say that's caused by older macOS bugs that have not been fixed for years.
Five macOS versions ago, with the introduction of macOS Catalina, iTunes was discontinued and replaced by a combination of several apps (which made perfect sense from design standpoint, IMHO). Since then, iPhone synchronisation takes place via the Finder.
Problem is, this Finder integration has never ever worked as intended.
There were always many bugs causing periodic problems in this field. If this is really still not working properly in the current Sonoma release, my assumption would be that we all have to wait for a bugfix to come up one fine day...maybe after some more years
Anyone else notice their iMessages are not syncing to iPad unless manually choosing Sync (on the iPad). They go to my watch fine.
Not sure if the sync status time on the attached image is anything to do with it?
Not sure if the sync status time on the attached image is anything to do with it?
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I've just learnt of this issue because I was having syncing issues and thought it was my USB hub not working properly.
I've created an Automator app that force quits MDCrashReportTool so that I don't need to find the <pid> each time I sync my iPhone. It uses the command:
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pkill -9 "MDCrashReportTool"I submitted feedback to Apple though I'll not hold my breath for it to be fixed anytime soon.
I'm on Ventura 13.6.3 on an M1 MBA.
15 ProMax
So far so good … mostly.
The only major complaints for 17.2 is around apps. So far I have had to hard reboot my device 3x and have had Teams, Heckfire, and Fidelity apps all crash more than once. Then there was search in iMessage - sometimes it works and sometimes it don’t.
There is the becoming stock normal WiFi issues.
Battery has shown no real change and the Action button when set to Silence doesn’t silence everything.
Still feels like an ongoing beta.
So far so good … mostly.
The only major complaints for 17.2 is around apps. So far I have had to hard reboot my device 3x and have had Teams, Heckfire, and Fidelity apps all crash more than once. Then there was search in iMessage - sometimes it works and sometimes it don’t.
There is the becoming stock normal WiFi issues.
Battery has shown no real change and the Action button when set to Silence doesn’t silence everything.
Still feels like an ongoing beta.
I finally made the jump to ios17.2 my thoughts:
Pros
Battery life is much better than ios 16.
Cons
Everything feels slower (i dont have an iphone 15), buggy text messages, my mothers phone froze while using Duolingo and receiving a phone call at the same time.
The ios doesn't feel finished.
A clean install is a pain they changed the process i had to wipe my devices 2 times in order to perform a "secure installation" on all my devices, annoying.
Pros
Battery life is much better than ios 16.
Cons
Everything feels slower (i dont have an iphone 15), buggy text messages, my mothers phone froze while using Duolingo and receiving a phone call at the same time.
The ios doesn't feel finished.
A clean install is a pain they changed the process i had to wipe my devices 2 times in order to perform a "secure installation" on all my devices, annoying.
Last week updated my iPhone 13 mini to 17.2 without noticeable issues. But yesterday morning things went wrong. In the morning I opened the Music app and it showed a white screen. The evening before it did work fine. So restarted the app a couple of times, no effect. Then I shutdown the iPhone for a minute and turned it on again... I got a permanent boot-loop (endless apple logo showing, not showing, showing... etc).
After a couple of reset attempts, I went to completely restore/erase the iPhone 13 mini and a iCloud restore afterwards.
It took about an hour, and it worked. Almost all settings were restored. Of course the banking apps, authentication apps and Face-ID needed a new activation. And I had to setup activity notifications from all relevant sensors again, those were gone too. Same for network and bluetooth access options in several apps.
@smorrissey
I didn't notice any slow down with my iPhone 13 mini. In fact, after the erase and restore yesterday, starting up the iPhone is noticeable faster than before. But
The annoyance for me is the slowness of the restore proces. Besides the many steps to go through, the waiting for all things to download is not comfortable. I wish that I could have a large iCloud cache on my Synology NAS rack to speed up things. I have a Mac with "Content Caching" activated on the network, but that hardly did anything. I used to have a local Apple Software Update Service running, which worked perfectly for Mac's, but Apple killed that one a while back.
@dk001
oi... Teams... of course it crashes, that's a standard Microsoft feature on every platform.
What kind of Wifi issue did you have? So far I had never any serious issues myself. The issues I have seen at the homes of friends and colleagues were heavy interference from other wireless devices, from neighbours or even their own. Cheap rebranded Chinese home routers.
After a couple of reset attempts, I went to completely restore/erase the iPhone 13 mini and a iCloud restore afterwards.
It took about an hour, and it worked. Almost all settings were restored. Of course the banking apps, authentication apps and Face-ID needed a new activation. And I had to setup activity notifications from all relevant sensors again, those were gone too. Same for network and bluetooth access options in several apps.
@smorrissey
I didn't notice any slow down with my iPhone 13 mini. In fact, after the erase and restore yesterday, starting up the iPhone is noticeable faster than before. But
The annoyance for me is the slowness of the restore proces. Besides the many steps to go through, the waiting for all things to download is not comfortable. I wish that I could have a large iCloud cache on my Synology NAS rack to speed up things. I have a Mac with "Content Caching" activated on the network, but that hardly did anything. I used to have a local Apple Software Update Service running, which worked perfectly for Mac's, but Apple killed that one a while back.
@dk001
oi... Teams... of course it crashes, that's a standard Microsoft feature on every platform.
What kind of Wifi issue did you have? So far I had never any serious issues myself. The issues I have seen at the homes of friends and colleagues were heavy interference from other wireless devices, from neighbours or even their own. Cheap rebranded Chinese home routers.
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Could anyone with an Apple Watch please confirm how iMessages are deleted across devices?
If I delete an iMessage off my watch it does not delete off the phone, but if I delete an iMessage off the phone it will delete from the watch. Just to confirm, I am not talking about SMS, purely iMessage.
I am asking because I had to re-pair my watch, and I am sure before this, iMessages were deleted on all devices no matter where they were deleted from.
Mirror phone is enabled for messages in the watch app too.
Thanks.
If I delete an iMessage off my watch it does not delete off the phone, but if I delete an iMessage off the phone it will delete from the watch. Just to confirm, I am not talking about SMS, purely iMessage.
I am asking because I had to re-pair my watch, and I am sure before this, iMessages were deleted on all devices no matter where they were deleted from.
Mirror phone is enabled for messages in the watch app too.
Thanks.
Yup, I am seeing same behavior. Deleting on watch does not delete on other devices.
Thank you for confirming. Appreciate it.
It’s yet another decision by Apple that truly is gobsmacking and unjustifiable. I am pretty vocal about how much I despair when it comes to Apple and this really does not improve my opinion. I know it’s not the end of the world but some of their design decisions are mental in my opinion.
Being still on iOS 16.6.1, I'm at the brink of installing iOS 17.2 on my iPhone SE 3
How does 17.2 behave on A15 Bionic powered devices? Does it work well, aside from puntual bugs?
With iOS 17.3 just starting the beta stage now, I don't expect this version until late January, so... Do you think it is a good moment to update? Maybe wait for some bug-fix release like iOS 17.2.1 or even 17.2.2? I find the Journey app as an interesting tool, but I'm not sure if it is super buggy or what (because it is the first version that has the app).
I'm pretty confident it will work just fine on my M2 iPad Pro, but if I upgrade to iOS 17 I want to do so in all my devices, installing iOS 17.2 on my iPhone, iPadOS 17.2 on my iPad Pro, and Safari 17.2 on my Mac (Monterey) to be able to use new features such as Safari Profiles over all my devices.
Thank you in advance for your honest response!
How does 17.2 behave on A15 Bionic powered devices? Does it work well, aside from puntual bugs?
With iOS 17.3 just starting the beta stage now, I don't expect this version until late January, so... Do you think it is a good moment to update? Maybe wait for some bug-fix release like iOS 17.2.1 or even 17.2.2? I find the Journey app as an interesting tool, but I'm not sure if it is super buggy or what (because it is the first version that has the app).
I'm pretty confident it will work just fine on my M2 iPad Pro, but if I upgrade to iOS 17 I want to do so in all my devices, installing iOS 17.2 on my iPhone, iPadOS 17.2 on my iPad Pro, and Safari 17.2 on my Mac (Monterey) to be able to use new features such as Safari Profiles over all my devices.
Thank you in advance for your honest response!
Performance-wise it should run just fine. I run 17.2 on my iPad Pro 11 with a A12X Bionic chip daily and the performance on that is fine.
The problem you’re likely to run into is the RAM. Like my iPad, the SE 3 has 4 GB which isn’t really enough for 17.2 to do all it’s background tasks and have other apps running at the same time. As such you may run into odd things like web pages failing to load at times if you have multiple tabs open and suspended apps constantly being dumped from memory when the phone decides it wants to run background tasks.
Besides that, iOS 17.2 should work just fine.
My original 15PM had some kind of hardware issue (according to Apple - via in store testing) that caused the WiFi to act erratically.
The 15PM replacement I now have, when on WiFI 6, drops to half speed or lower if I am more than 10ft (approx) from my router/modem. I have several WiFI 6 devices and none of them show any kind of speed constraint at that range (line of sight).