IMO I think we get Beta 1 tomorrow and 17.4.1 on monday or tuesday of next week
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iOS 17 Speculation Thread
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I didn’t say they may be “delaying”* 17.5 b1 primarily to line up with past years. I said they schedule the betas primarily to land at iOS 18 beta 1.
In other words, Apple has a schedule and they keep to that schedule unless, like with 17.4, an external force compels them to do otherwise. They don’t care whether we get our desired fix of betas or not. They do all of this this to suit their business needs. Period.
Of course 17.5 is well under development. But Apple will release it to the developer community/ public when they - not us - decide the time is right.
* I put “delaying” in quotes because it is only a delay if a beta release doesn’t hit Apple’s schedule not our schedule. Apple’s schedule is the only schedule.
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Sure, but on the other hand, they could easily just keep rolling with the beta process as they normally do rather than pausing on betas for a couple weeks. Why not just drop another beta or 2 for 17.5 if they’re worried about getting back on track, rather than not releasing any betas at all? With more beta versions, 17.5 would likely benefit from added stability thanks to more time to work out and catch any bugs with the help of the beta community. That’s at least my opinion. Maybe they’ll wait till the 28th, but I think that would be a waste of a good opportunity to work out more bugs and make a more stable 17.5 release.
I just don’t think there are a bunch of Apple people sitting around a cafeteria table at Caffe Macs ruminating about when the next beta should drop and whether an extra beta release would be useful. I suspect that the beta release schedule (really, the entire iOS 17 release schedule) was etched in stone no later than late last summer and possibly even earlier than that. Again, absent something as drastic as the EU regulations, they are not going to change a thing over the entire lifecycle of a major iOS release.
Everything has to go lockstep and be tightly controlled to ensure that the new iOS release (here iOS 18) is ready in time for the launch of the new iPhone in September. Because that’s where the
is. I spent 20+ years working in a large manufacturing company (think very very large). Product release schedules in a large engineering /manufacturing environment are about as sacrosanct as something secular can be. Missing design and release milestones is career endangering. No one is ad libbing.
I guess what I’m saying though, is that if they had already scheduled a beta release for later betas of iOS 17.4, then they could just release betas on the same schedule, only they’d be betas for iOS 17.5. So it wouldn’t really change the schedule, they’d still be releasing betas on the same days, it would just be a couple extra early iOS 17.5 betas rather than a couple late iOS 17.4 betas. Taking a two week break instead of releasing betas would actually change the schedule.I just don’t think there are a bunch of Apple people sitting around a cafeteria table at Caffe Macs ruminating about when the next beta should drop and whether an extra beta release would be useful. I suspect that the beta release schedule (really, the entire iOS 17 release schedule) was etched in stone no later than late last summer and possibly even earlier than that. Again, absent something as drastic as the EU regulations, they are not going to change a thing over the entire lifecycle of a major iOS release.
Everything has to go lockstep and be tightly controlled to ensure that the new iOS release (here iOS 18) is ready in time for the launch of the new iPhone in September. Because that’s where theis.
I spent 20+ years working in a large manufacturing company (think very very large). Product release schedules in a large engineering /manufacturing environment are about as sacrosanct as something secular can be. Missing design and release milestones is career endangering. No one is ad libbing.
No betas coming this week according to the X account which posts accurate build numbers ahead of time.
At this point it wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t get anything till next week. Makes sense after the 17.4 push, in my mind at least.
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I guess I have to wait three months for 18.
(Or, to stay on topic. 17.9999999999999 - I can't find a way to type a · above the 9.)
I guess I have to wait three months for 18.
(Or, to stay on topic. 17.9999999999999 - I can't find a way to type a · above the 9.)
They just don’t think that way. And for good reason. And I’ll leave it at that.
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I’ve posted about them previously in this thread. They often post accurate build numbers of upcoming releases a few days ahead of release.
My pet rock says next week. He's never been right, so could be something today.
Looks like your pet rock is finally right! 🤣
It’s frustrating that Apple seems to be dragging their feet on releasing an iOS 17.5 beta. Why waste a week that could be spent on making iOS 17.5 more robust and stable? I guess we can hope that they drop one next week. If they wait till the 27th, I think that would be rather silly, because they could use this extra time to make iOS 17.5 better rather than sitting on their hands waiting around for some arbitrary day to start the beta testing.
I may be going at this too strong, I get that there are probably good reasons, it’s just a bit annoying that things aren’t rolling like they usually do. I guess I’ll just have to wait for a new beta, hopefully next week. At least iOS 17.4 seems to be running fairly stable.
I may be going at this too strong, I get that there are probably good reasons, it’s just a bit annoying that things aren’t rolling like they usually do. I guess I’ll just have to wait for a new beta, hopefully next week. At least iOS 17.4 seems to be running fairly stable.
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For every thing there is a season, my friend. It just isn’t 17.5 szn yet
Yeah, you’re right, I just really hope they don’t wait till the 27th as others have suggested, that would be quite a long wait.
A week wait isn’t that bad. I guess I assumed that the March 27th date some people were floating out there was the majority consensus. I’m hoping next week will be it. 👍🏻
