iOS 17 Speculation Thread

[JFLECHUGA]

Speaking of that big jump.

What I find disturbing is that people associate the worst forms of AI as what Apple will utilize. AI is suppose to be seamless, operating like macros in the background in some instances with apps/applications with results achieved that just involve a few less steps then what you are doing now. The only viable alternative is digital assistants that only appear when you call upon them for fact-finding and other forms of data representation.

Obviously the goal with a mobile OS is to make the iPhone for example more of a useful handsfree tool, without it over presenting what you are looking for because of the smaller display with a high degree of accuracy so that it is a reliable information source/tool to utilize. Thats where I think we are headed not the chatbot interfaces or generative fake creative works.

I understand and share your position, my friend. 👍🏻

 

[Kal Madda]

I think that IOS 17.x is already fully developed, and with these betas what they are doing is polishing, but from my point of view little we will see now, being WWDC just around the corner to present IOS 18, that there if I think there will be a big jump, at least that's what I hope.

Keep in mind though that iOS 18 won’t obviously be dropping in June. We still have most of a year until iOS 18 drops. So I doubt that we won’t get any new minor features or changes to existing features within iOS 17 in that time. Those often come even with later updates in iOS.

 

[JFLECHUGA]

Keep in mind though that iOS 18 won’t obviously be dropping in June. We still have most of a year until iOS 18 drops. So I doubt that we won’t get any new minor features or changes to existing features within iOS 17 in that time. Those often come even with later updates in iOS.

I share your comment. Friend. 👍🏻

 

[avercros]

17.4.2 today?

 

[Abthevolfan92]

17.4.2 today?

IMO macrumors will let us know when it's about to become available

 

[Realityck]

IMO macrumors will let us know when it's about to become available

I thought 17.4.2 was for the iPad update build possibly early next week, but all the delay speculation by the rumor spinsters seems to keep trying to negate that thought.

 

[upandown]

IMO macrumors will let us know when it's about to become available

Although it’s been occurring a fair amount lately it doesn’t always happen. Sometimes Apple pushes an update without it being visible to websites before release.

 

[Paddle1]

Keep in mind though that iOS 18 won’t obviously be dropping in June. We still have most of a year until iOS 18 drops. So I doubt that we won’t get any new minor features or changes to existing features within iOS 17 in that time. Those often come even with later updates in iOS.

At the same time if you compare to last year iOS 16.5 was the last release to include new features, so what we see now in 17.5 beta could be it until 18.

 

[Realityck]

At the same time if you compare to last year iOS 16.5 was the last release to include new features, so what we see now in 17.5 beta could be it until 18.

There is still the possibility of just stuff is added on the server side to existing apps that are clients. Take the example of CarPlay working with Classical sorta in v1.2 and then removed with v1.21. Who know how much of that is experimental vs they just put it out there in iOS 17.x vs iOS 18? A lot of what is AI specific would be also server/client.

 

[chillip]

Hoping for 17.4.2 this week. Need a fix for the video scrubbing issue.

 

[Realityck]

Hoping for 17.4.2 this week. Need a fix for the video scrubbing issue.

I want to see if that shows up on April 9th along with the iPads update announced. It would be so nice to see the rumors wrong.

Then we wonder if the iOS/iPadOS 17.5 beta 2 will be this week compared to past years iOS xx.5 delays requiring 2 weeks?

Stay tuned.

 

[chillip]

I want to see if that shows up on April 9th along with the iPads update announced. It would be so nice to see the rumors wrong.

Then we wonder if the beta 2 will be this week compared to past years iOS xx.5 delays requiring 2 weeks?

Stay tuned.

iPads now in may according to Bloomberg dude

 

[Realityck]

iPads now in may according to Bloomberg dude

It only happened once before in May for 2021. March thru April has more activity. I think it's because May is too close to WWDC and they don't want to announce anything major beforehand. So odds are not great.

 

[chillip]

It only happened once before in May for 2021. March thru April has more activity. I think it's because May is too close to WWDC and they don't want to announce anything major beforehand. So odds are not great.

You’ve really gone to town on this. Nice work!

 

[JFLECHUGA]

At the same time if you compare to last year iOS 16.5 was the last release to include new features, so what we see now in 17.5 beta could be it until 18.

I think that once presenting IOS 18, Apple will release it to the developers as it has always done, so if the WWDC is June 10-11 once it presents it, we can have it at the latest on the same day that the presentation ends.

 

[Abthevolfan92]

according to the timeline we won't get Ios 17.5 until mid to late may so I'd guess next week or the week after for 17.4.2

 

[john991]

17.5 beta 2 next week. 😬

 

[Stuipdboy1000]

Here's my current theory for the release schedule of 17.5.

I think initially Apple were targeting the new iPads to have a special build of 17.4 on them but with the delay in production they will instead come with 17.5.

The X.5 releases typically come alongside new Pride bands and watch faces. Since 2020, they have all been released in May:

2020 - May 18
2021 - May 17
2022 - May 24
2023 - May 9

So if the new iPads are announced the week of May 6 as Gurman has speculated, and shipping the following week which is pretty common with an Apple product launch, I can see 17.5 releasing the week beginning May 13.

That would also put us around 4 weeks from an RC if that becomes available post iPad announcement.

 

[chillip]

Still hoping for 17.4.2 this week!

 

[Kal Madda]

iPads now in may according to Bloomberg dude

And Bloomberg dude (Mark Gurman) has earned a reputation of being unreliable and inaccurate this past year or so.

 

[Kal Madda]

At the same time if you compare to last year iOS 16.5 was the last release to include new features, so what we see now in 17.5 beta could be it until 18.

Yeah, or it could not be it. I’m not expecting we’ll see a bunch of “big” features, but I could definitely see some “minor” improvements to existing features and so on. I think it kind of depends on what you consider a “major” or “minor” improvement. To me, if they expand AirPlay Receiver functionality to include devices other than Vision Pro, that would be a “major” improvement to me, even though most would consider it a minor change. And I think changes like that are still possible in iOS 17.

 

[JFLECHUGA]

17.5 beta 2 next week. 😬

Today, Tuesday, they could release beta 2 of 17.5

 

[Hans300]

Nothing today, cu tomorrow!

 

[JFLECHUGA]

There is still the possibility of just stuff is added on the server side to existing apps that are clients. Take the example of CarPlay working with Classical sorta in v1.2 and then removed with v1.21. Who know how much of that is experimental vs they just put it out there in iOS 17.x vs iOS 18? A lot of what is AI specific would be also server/client.

You have to rely on the day they release the beta, if there is nothing against it, all the betas will continue on the same day unless there is a serious error. 👍🏻😎

 

[MrGimper]

Downloading!

Are you suuuuuuuuuure ?