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I don’t fully get this feature just yet. Is it mostly about lending someone your phone?
I think people are going to have all sorts of different reasons to use it. Some apps already let you require Face ID to open them, but this is more universal.
 
I find it completely ridiculous that people have to lock and/or hide apps from other people. To each their own, but I think that is pathetic. And before you go down the "well, I have kids" road, maybe your kid/s shouldn't be in your phone in the first place, if you have to hide apps from them or lock them out of them. Get them their own digital babysitter to play with. Problem solved.
And banking apps? I have to say I disagree with you. A guy in London was arrested after stealing 24 mobile phones on a spree. I don't want somebody who has stolen my iPhone to find banking apps, credit card apps, consumer apps (e.g, Amazon), my contact list, my social media apps, or my health apps.

My only concern is that if apps that are hidden actually go into a special folder in a directory, then that folder will become a prime target for hacking. It had better be secure and encrypted.
 
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I think people are going to have all sorts of different reasons to use it. Some apps already let you require Face ID to open them, but this is more universal.
Yeah because you need to authenticate to unlock my device, if someone wants to login to my bank app while I'm not looking it needs FaceID - seems like a big hassle to add this unless you are handing your device out to loads of people all the time. Maybe for mums that give their phones to their kids to keep them busy? I guess that would be a great reason.
 
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This is face id or passcode locking....either one of these two would work....not just face id.

how this is useful......when it still can accept passcode.

someone would casually ask us to give the password or can look at the passcode that we type, sometimes, while unlocking the device.

sometimes, if we give unlocked phone to someone, then they would look/ask for the passcode if phone gets locked...and the same passcode can be used to unlock any app.

this is a useful feature..but not 100%...I may be wrong

That is a nice feature indeed, perhaps long overdue but I have 2 questions (currently using ”Cloak” paid app for such feature)
1. what is the point to be able to unlock with the passcode? Some members in the family, for example, may know the passcode. I would have preferred to be Face ID only, no? That would include people spying on your phone and then stealing it...
2. what about leaving your iPhone for servicing/repairing? If the repair guys needs to turn it on and check it, they will need the passcode, which negates this new iOS feature unfortunately, no?
Face ID only wouldn't work, you can change your Face ID with your passcode. The passcode is key to the whole shebang.
 
Not if stolen device protection is enabled.
Ah I haven't used that. What happens if you have multiple failed bio authentications? Face ID often fails for me. Normally after 3 or something like that it requires the passcode / password.
 
As a physician, I have protected health information (PHI) on my phone. It would be illegal for others to have access to that information. It would be nice to be able to let others have access to my phone, without having access to the PHI. This is a step in the right direction, but not if the passcode has to be the same as the main passcode.

I was on Samsung for about 5 years, and after being on iPhone since the first generation. It was nice to have all the PHI not only locked up, but tucked away and invisible. Hopefully Apple implements an option to at least have a different passcode.

For my use case, multiple user profiles would be best, though Samsung's secure folder works almost as well for this.
 
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Did you report it?
Yep!
im surprised at that, surely thats a bug too, or its ill thought out. there's always been the ability to hide the fact that an app has been purchased/downloaded so that when you dont have it downloaded it shows GET, so hiding it should do the same (id have thought).
That’s true. I added that on to the feedback I sent.
 
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To those who feel that simply requiring Face ID to access the hidden folder is adequate I would say that, with the passcode in hand, I can add my face to the FaceID system in about a minute, as an "alternate appearance." That really isn't any more secure than the passcode requirement.
 
I find it completely ridiculous that people have to lock and/or hide apps from other people. To each their own, but I think that is pathetic. And before you go down the "well, I have kids" road, maybe your kid/s shouldn't be in your phone in the first place, if you have to hide apps from them or lock them out of them. Get them their own digital babysitter to play with. Problem solved.

Exactly how I see it.
 
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A potential thief snatching your phone while you have it unlocked? It happens, you know.
I know at least two individuals this has happened to. In those cases, the thieves wrecked havoc, accessing amazon, and other apps to buy stuff with their accounts, texting all their contact in social networks. It is actually a quite common occurrence in large metro areas....
 
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As a physician, I have protected health information (PHI) on my phone. It would be illegal for others to have access to that information. It would be nice to be able to let others have access to my phone, without having access to the PHI. This is a step in the right direction, but not if the passcode has to be the same as the main passcode.

I was on Samsung for about 5 years, and after being on iPhone since the first generation. It was nice to have all the PHI not only locked up, but tucked away and invisible. Hopefully Apple implements an option to at least have a different passcode.

For my use case, multiple user profiles would be best, though Samsung's secure folder works almost as well for this.

Not a physician, but have sensitive work related content that could use an added layer of security in a similar fashion. It's one of the reasons I like Samsung - that, and I need two secure login sessions unique to my work situation. Secure Folder is great for that. Hopefully Apple is close.

Are you still on Samsung because of this? I've also tested a Pixel, and those allow you to have completely separate profiles which also works well.
 
Not a physician, but have sensitive work related content that could use an added layer of security in a similar fashion. It's one of the reasons I like Samsung - that, and I need two secure login sessions unique to my work situation. Secure Folder is great for that. Hopefully Apple is close.

Are you still on Samsung because of this? I've also tested a Pixel, and those allow you to have completely separate profiles which also works well.
I was forced to come back to the iPhone because, 5 years after deregistering my number, critical SMS/messages started randomly going to iMessage. The only way I knew was when the senders phoned to ask why I hadn't responded. Since it was only iPhone users who complained, I was suspicious. I popped my SIM into an old iPhone, and all the missing messages popped up as iMessages. I deregistered my number again, but the issue persisted. Apple was, of course, no help. It was less hassle to just go back to iPhone until I am done with this leadership stint, where messages need to be seen and addressed in a timely fashion.
 
Anyway, I'm done with this thread. If you are on the defense or are up in arms about my posts, I would suggest you look deep within and figure out why you are so bothered by what I've said. I'm just one person. What I post shouldn't hold this much sway in your life, seriously. I appreciate the lively back and forth, but at this point it is getting exhausting.
This is just a guess, but the reason you may have gotten the responses herein is due to the absolutist position of your initial post over feature that:
- is entirely opt-in
- does not in any way interfere, slow down or require extra clicks to bypass
- not understanding there may be a use case above and beyond protecting your privacy from your s/o.

Just imho.
 
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Ah I haven't used that. What happens if you have multiple failed bio authentications? Face ID often fails for me. Normally after 3 or something like that it requires the passcode / password.
Stolen device protection has some options associated with it. There are threads in macrumors about it.

Hopefully all of these security features make the casual snatch and grab more difficult for the thief to get into your stuff.
 
I was forced to come back to the iPhone because, 5 years after deregistering my number, critical SMS/messages started randomly going to iMessage. The only way I knew was when the senders phoned to ask why I hadn't responded. Since it was only iPhone users who complained, I was suspicious. I popped my SIM into an old iPhone, and all the missing messages popped up as iMessages. I deregistered my number again, but the issue persisted. Apple was, of course, no help. It was less hassle to just go back to iPhone until I am done with this leadership stint, where messages need to be seen and addressed in a timely fashion.

Wow that's crazy. I wonder how that happened after so long. You didn't have an iPad or something else still tied to iMessage or anything along those lines?
 
I don't get the point of hiding an app. If I don't want it on the home screen I don't put it on the Home Screen. If I don't want to receive notifications from an app I can turn notifications app in settings.
The App Library is also going to be screaming "Hidden" with all the apps that I want to "hide".
Seems like a useless feature to me.
 
I find it completely ridiculous that people have to lock and/or hide apps from other people. To each their own, but I think that is pathetic. And before you go down the "well, I have kids" road, maybe your kid/s shouldn't be in your phone in the first place, if you have to hide apps from them or lock them out of them. Get them their own digital babysitter to play with. Problem solved.
Kids often have their own devices, but on those rare ocassions where you are out and they don't have their devices, parents will pass their iPhones to them to play with. Can you not relate to that as a parent yourself?
 
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Who do you let use your phone that you care if they see your recent searches on Maps? Better question, who would you let use your phone that would go digging in your Maps in the first place?
What an ignorant and thoughtless comment. There are many possible reasons that a person might want to hide their recent location searches in Maps. What if they have a controlling or abusive partner from whom they are trying to separate, but who currently has access to their phone, and they don’t want them to see that they recently drove to a divorce attorney’s office or DA shelter? Or, what if they work at a company that has a BYOD policy, and they don’t want their boss (who would legally have access to their device per the stipulations of the policy) to see that they recently visited a competing company for a job interview? Or, what if they live in a state with an extremely harsh abortion ban, and they don’t want law enforcement to potentially be able to prove that they recently went to an abortion clinic? I feel like I could go on forever with these kinds of examples, but the POINT is that you don’t know someone else’s specific situation. Try thinking outside of your narrow little bubble for a change.
 
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