I don't know, but what I do know is that if all of this stuff comes to pass, I don't know how they intend to cover it all in 2 hours.
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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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That’s true, though I think when it comes to things like app extensions, those would likely be addressed in developer sessions, not necessarily in the keynote. 👍🏻. But if all of the other new changes and feature rumors are true, they’re going to have a lot of ground to try to cover in the keynote. They may have to gloss over some things to make everything fit! 👍🏻
Well yes despite having iPadOS the browsers you get are still really iOS like on what get on the iPhone nothing desktop like when paying on $1,000 iPad pro running iPadOS.
Well android browsers are more feature rich than iPadOS witch is sad browsers like FireFox, Edge, Opera or Brave are strip now iPhone app well android phones running those browsers have more features.
Well yes on my desktop running windows Firefox I can make all websites into dark mode, change website text, block scrips running, download videos from most website, take screenshots, remove items from website, block ads, download YouTube videos, block malware, have themes browser so on.
Hank even android browsers can do some of this.
From the sounds of things there could still be some interesting features to discover after the keynote. I remember with iOS 11 they didn't even touch on the new (now current) Control Center being customizable and we found that out afterward.
There certainly will be. Some of the most exciting things are features that don’t even make the stage but are on the word cloud they display as each platform’s presentation concludes. Or show up in subsequent betas.
Some of the “big commentators” (i.e, Jason Snell) are saying they are not expecting much out of the iOS 18 intro keynote since “AI is now table stakes” and Apple is presumably playing catch up with Copilot, OpenAI and Google Gemini.
To that I say “bah humbug”. The kicker will be having this integrated into devices I use, rather than as apps I can use like any other app. And unless I am way off the mark, Apple always finds a way to do things that others have not figured out. It’s one of the benefits of not being a first mover*. You see what works and what doesn’t.
*I’m definitely not saying that Apple chose to be behind here, at least this much, but at least it does afford them some perspective that they might not have had if they had gone full bore on this last year
I would imagine that they will try to handle as much as possible with on device app functions. When that is not enough, they might pass the request to ChatGPT. Certainly for those factoid requests that Siri currently responds with “Here is what I found on the web”.
So no new stuff really. They are going to shove the word AI down our throat.
The hype for AI is unjustified for the average user
The hype for AI is unjustified for the average user
They are being forced to “shove the word AI down our throat(s)”. Wall Street has punished Apple’s stock this year for not being more AI oriented. So Apple had to respond by going all in on AI using that name for what they’ve been doing all along with “Machine Learning”.
I suggest that before you condemn Apple for what it will present on Monday and over the coming months you actually wait to see what it is.
I remember legions of people condemning the iPad as a “big iPhone” before (and even after) it was released. Don’t hear that too much anymore.
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Agreed. And more Machine Learning feature integration (AI) could be revolutionary for iOS, if the rumors about its implementation are true. 👍🏻. Besides, I also expect there will likely be several non-AI features like the rumored Home Screen customization options, new Settings app, and the new features and tweaks to several of Apple’s other system apps.
It would not be a bad idea for those planning on installing the beta to figure out your "rollback" plan in case the beta is too rough for general use.
I recommend making an archived and encrypted backup of your device using the instructions at this link. Do this just before you install the iOS 18 beta so your backup is as recent as possible.
Before keynote day, I would download a copy of the IPSW file for the iOS software that's current as of the time you installed the iOS 18 beta (right now, that's 17.5.1). You can get this from the Apple developer portal here.
Then, I would familiarize myself with the rollback steps to get back to the current public release if things go wrong. I've reproduced those instructions below from @Pearsey's excellent tutorial (contained in the "spoiler" section of the first post of each beta thread). These instructions apply equally to installing the new beta via IPSW or to restoring back to the current public release (assuming you have the IPSW downloaded on your Mac).
Start this process now or over the weekend so you're not racing around trying to figure out how to do it immediately after the keynote.
I recommend making an archived and encrypted backup of your device using the instructions at this link. Do this just before you install the iOS 18 beta so your backup is as recent as possible.
Before keynote day, I would download a copy of the IPSW file for the iOS software that's current as of the time you installed the iOS 18 beta (right now, that's 17.5.1). You can get this from the Apple developer portal here.
Then, I would familiarize myself with the rollback steps to get back to the current public release if things go wrong. I've reproduced those instructions below from @Pearsey's excellent tutorial (contained in the "spoiler" section of the first post of each beta thread). These instructions apply equally to installing the new beta via IPSW or to restoring back to the current public release (assuming you have the IPSW downloaded on your Mac).
Start this process now or over the weekend so you're not racing around trying to figure out how to do it immediately after the keynote.
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Every year there is hype, every year there is hope.
Every year iPadOS is the same…
Of the new features:
1/3 will be novelties
1/3 will be quality of life improvements, minor tweaks
1/3 will only be available in the future
But not to worry, iPadOS 19 will be amazing!
Every year iPadOS is the same…
Of the new features:
1/3 will be novelties
1/3 will be quality of life improvements, minor tweaks
1/3 will only be available in the future
But not to worry, iPadOS 19 will be amazing!
You're not wrong, unfortunately. Unless this changes, the iPad may go down as the most over-specced/underserved by its own software device ever.Every year there is hype, every year there is hope.
Every year iPadOS is the same…
Of the new features:
1/3 will be novelties
1/3 will be quality of life improvements, minor tweaks
1/3 will only be available in the future
But not to worry, iPadOS 19 will be amazing!
I mean, to each his own, but I use an iPad as my primary computer for professional graphic design, 3D modeling/sculpting, and all of my other “normal” workflows like document management. I don’t think that the iPad is over-specced/underserved by its software. I think iPadOS can improve in several areas, and I’m hoping it does, but I think it’s probably around 95% of the way there. I think even if the only improvements are the rumored AI-features and app refreshes, it would be a good update. But I’m pretty sure there will be more than that.
Nothing to wait on
The only thing anyone will care about is picture or video editing, that’s it.
Others do not completely agree
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Oooh! You work for Apple and are privy to the entire announcement? Cool!!!! Do tell!
If they used iCloud they would not be 'powerful new onboard AI'
All the rumors I’ve read point to a hybrid approach. On-device processing for devices that support it, off-device (cloud) processing for those that can’t run it natively. This may not apply to all AI features, I’m sure that some will be local-only and will require native hardware. But I think most of the AI features will be available for most of the support devices.
I know that others don’t agree, they don’t need to. But they’re not the authority either. Just because they believe the hardware is underserved by the software does not mean that that is actually the case, or that everyone universally agrees that’s the case. One thing that bugs me is many of these same people say things like “there aren’t any OS features that push the absolute limits of my hardware” when the OS itself should not generally be pushing the hardware of the devices it’s running on. Apps can push the hardware limits, and there are several pro apps I use that definitely benefit from the power of the M-chips. An OS’s job is generally to run efficiently so the actual apps people are running on the system can use the hardware performance.
And again, I don’t think iPadOS is perfect, I think it can improve, just like I think macOS can improve as well. But I am happy with where iPadOS is currently, and that’s why I use it as my primary computer. I think Apple is clearly improving iPadOS and making it a more capable platform. 👍🏻
I agree with you as well. It’s mostly the people on these forums, Reddit, etc. that have the complaints about iPadOS. Most people I know who don’t really follow Apple News/tech news are very satisfied with their iPads.
Yeah, I’m excited to see what they announce! 👍🏻. And I agree about WWDC, it’s one of my favorite things to look forward to as well! 👍🏻