Seeding is available at 10 am pst. What is it about this that requires a time delay? Tim is talking up the SE and some other products, and after that we are supposed to wait? Strange?
Yeah, I think today is more likely. Dropping iOS 18.4 Beta 1 the same day as the new hardware could split press attention between the two. I think a beta today to create some pre-new hardware hype, and then new hardware event tomorrow. 👍🏻
That assumes Apple would provide advance development details when they never do except with WWDC developer preview for devs the first month. I am saying follow up point release details rely mostly on the WWDC documentation not any particular grouping with a point release.
People interested in a lower cost phone aren't a huge overlap on the venn with the people who are aware of beta cycles or reading tech news. Furthermore, Apple never said those features were part of 18.4. That was all Gurman. The Apple Intelligence page has just said "in the coming months" since September.
This is a good point... So do you think they release 18.4 today and get any bad news out of the way... or 18.4 on Thursday after they drop the SE?
The only thing I'm sure of: if it's really coming this week I'd definitely say it's not coming Wednesday.
Quite a bit, especially with the rumored scale of this update. I think 18.4 could actually possibly even get more press than the SE given the number of features it’s purported to bring. The SE is a budget phone, it gets some coverage, but not near as much as a full iPhone flagship release in the fall…
Gurman will put it in his newsletters, but not on the main Bloomberg page. But that means sites like The Verge and Engadget and such start posting about it too. So if you regularly read tech news, you come across rumors reported as news a little too regularly. They occasionally cover the actual betas, but usually just the same rumors you see here.
I would think, most users, unlike the ones on this forum, would be largely unaware of beta releases and only concerned with the final releases.
Yes, but most tech news outlets will likely report about the first beta for a major update like this. This will be the first update to bring Apple Intelligence to other parts of the world, which in and of itself is a big deal, but it’s also rumored to add quite a lot of new features. It’s not because it’s a beta that draws attention, but because it gives us our first glimpse at all the new changes that 18.4 will bring when it releases.
Typical users don't know about the updates until their phone tells them it's time to update
Yes, but most people probably will also not know about a new iPhone SE model on day one either by that token. But virtually all of the tech news media that would cover a new iPhone SE would also cover the first beta for this update…
