iOS 18 Speculation Thread

[TimFL1]

People seem to forget that we had a similar situation with iOS 13. We had roughly 8 betas of 13.0 until mid-August, then they out of nowhere started pushing 13.1 betas in August and you could either stay on B8 or hop on 13.1 Beta 1.

That was, if I recall correctly, due to them pushing device orders early due to sanctions on the horizon, but it is a precedent.

I wonder if they do the same here or if they just add a new seed to the updates menu for 18.1. iOS 18 feels way too unstable to be locked in for prime / to go without any further testing.

 

[one more]

People seem to forget that we had a similar situation with iOS 13. We had roughly 8 betas of 13.0 until mid-August, then they out of nowhere started pushing 13.1 betas in August and you could either stay on B8 or hop on 13.1 Beta 1.

That was, if I recall correctly, due to them pushing device orders early due to sanctions on the horizon, but it is a precedent.

I wonder if they do the same here or if they just add a new seed to the updates menu for 18.1. iOS 18 feels way too unstable to be locked in for prime / to go without any further testing.

My guess is that iOS 18.1 betas will only be available for eligible devices (AI hardware requirements), the rest of us will stay on iOS 18 beta train.

 

[AZhappyjack]

They could treat this as two different testing cycles to accelerate AI testing while allowing the usual advancement of Sept public releases of iOS/IPadOS 18.0/MacOS 15.0, and dev's can optionally get hands on experience with AI at a earlier point of time, with 18.1 seeds. If 17.6 is wrapping up very soon, with a lot of us using 18.0, certainly a 18.0 and 18.1 at the same time is not unlikely.

Absolutely sounds made up. It's just not happening.

 

[Realityck]

Absolutely sounds made up. It's just not happening.

Remember this is just a speculation thread. They could do any way they want to to move forward. Like end 18 go to 18.1 or one for consumers with iPhone 16 event, and the other a dev option to participate in.

 

[AZhappyjack]

Remember this is just a speculation thread.

So, because it's "speculation" we can just make up chit?

 

[gwhizkids]

They could treat this as two different testing cycles to accelerate AI testing while allowing the usual advancement of Sept public releases of iOS/IPadOS 18.0/MacOS 15.0, and dev's can optionally get hands on experience with AI at a earlier point of time, with 18.1 seeds. If 17.6 is wrapping up very soon, with a lot of us using 18.0, certainly a 18.0 and 18.1 at the same time is not unlikely.

Exactly. Normally Apple might have waited but they have to show Wall Street that they are in the AI game. This is the way to do that without slowing the development of iOS 18 in time for the new iPhones.

 

[gwhizkids]

Exactly, I don’t believe this at all, 18.1 for developers this week)…

They can’t not have a visible path forward for AI. They would be punished by Wall Street mercilessly. This is absolutely happening.

And it’s not unprecedented. It’s similar to what happened a few years so when there was the fear that the initial iPhone shipments were going to get caught up in a trade war with China.

 

[gwhizkids]

Exactly, I don’t believe this at all, 18.1 for developers this week)…

They can’t not have a visible path forward for AI. They would be punished by Wall Street mercilessly. This is absolutely happening.

And it’s not unprecedented. It’s similar to what happened a few years so when there was the fear that the initial iPhone shipments were going to get caught up in a trade war with China.

 

[john991]

They can’t not have a visible path forward for AI. They would be punished by Wall Street mercilessly. This is absolutely happening.

And it’s not unprecedented. It’s similar to what happened a few years so when there was the fear that the initial iPhone shipments were going to get caught up in a trade war with China.

So can we say 18.1 beta 1 drops Monday or Tuesday and back on a 2 week beta cycle

 

[greg624]

So, because it's "speculation" we can just make up chit?

Yes. That’s kind of what defines “speculation” lol

 

[gwhizkids]

So can we say 18.1 beta 1 drops Monday or Tuesday and back on a 2 week beta cycle

Probably.

 

[dannyyankou]

Exciting that 18.1 beta is dropping this week.

 

[gwhizkids]

So, because it's "speculation" we can just make up chit?

It would be unwise to bet against Gurman on this sort of thing.

 

[jkel777]

So if there ends up being two beta channels for iOS 18, which do you all plan on running? Personally, I’ll probably stick with 18.0 DB unless 18.1 DB 1 ends up being somewhat stable.

 

[AZhappyjack]

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Yes. That’s kind of what defines “speculation” lol

Hmmm... didn't see anything about making stuff up... but y'all do you.

 

[Realityck]

So if there ends up being wo beta channels for iOS 18, which do you all plan on running? Personally, I’ll probably stick with 18.0 DB unless 18.1 DB 1 ends up being somewhat stable.

PB seeds might remain 18.0. There is certainly enough PB testers out there for Apple to capture automated system crash instances.

Developers have always had the option to install either developer or Public beta seed as choices.

For myself it will be dev seeds. I have multiple devices for this.

 

[jkel777]

PB seeds might remain 18.0. There is certainly enough PB testers out there for Apple to capture automated system crash instances.

Developers have always had the option to install either developer or Public beta seed as choices.

That makes sense. In that case, I might switch to PB to stay on 18.0. As much as I’d like to beta test 18.1, I need my iPhone to be as ”stable” as possible for an upcoming trip. 18.0 hasn’t given me any major problems.

 

[gwhizkids]

So if there ends up being two beta channels for iOS 18, which do you all plan on running? Personally, I’ll probably stick with 18.0 DB unless 18.1 DB 1 ends up being somewhat stable.

18.1 without a doubt.

 

[john991]

18.1 without a doubt.

I second that. 😁

 

[bigjnyc]

So if there ends up being two beta channels for iOS 18, which do you all plan on running? Personally, I’ll probably stick with 18.0 DB unless 18.1 DB 1 ends up being somewhat stable.

18.1 will probably be the same as the latest 18.0 but with AI added.

 

[bigjnyc]

Hmmm... didn't see anything about making stuff up... but y'all do you.

Well when you say things with no knowledge or firm evidence of its existence or future happening…. You’re essentially making it up are you not?

 

[gwhizkids]

18.1 will probably be the same as the latest 18.0 but with AI added.

I doubt that it will be limited to only the Apple Intelligence features. There probably will be the other typical fixes and refinements we typically see in a X.1 release. And possibly other as yet unannounced features.

 

[WildstarBR2020]

I also believe that will be 2 different channels at the same time: 18.1 for eligible devices and 18.0 kept for the other devices… once the keep the common branch synced up, testing on AI portion of iOS 18 will be feasible.

 

[Paddle1]

I guess they will limit iOS 18.1 to devices that will actually be able to support the AI - so currently only iPhone 15 Pros and M1 iPads and newer. All the other devices will stay on iOS 18.0 beta stream.

I think there's a good chance all phones will get it. There can still be tweaks or features unrelated to AI in the 18.1 beta plus other devices can still be affected by any changes they make.

 

[greg624]

Hmmm... didn't see anything about making stuff up... but y'all do you.

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