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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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I remember a conversation about burgers between Samuel L. Jackson and Travolta while they are driving a car, but I didn’t remember the Big Kahuna. Maybe I was too young to pay attention to inside jokes. Excuse the off-topic.
By the way, I just saw there new betas!
Time will tell who is right. I’m just sayin what my impression from Gurman are.
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Gurman’s sources tend to be reliable. However, his post is not entirely clear.
- it’s possible he’s saying that today’s iOS 18 beta is the final beta until the iPhone 16 debuts
- it’s also possible Gurman simply means there are no new features coming to future betas before the iPhone event
Gurman: iOS 18 is ‘final’ with beta 7 until iPhone 16 launch - 9to5Mac
Today following the release of iOS 18 developer beta 7, Mark Gurman has reported that iOS 18 is ‘final’ until the iPhone 16 event.
9to5mac.com
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the projected Ios 18 release is mid to late september. I'm still thinking it will be released the 16th and the RC will be the 9th or 10thTime will tell who is right. I’m just sayin what my impression from Gurman are.
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Gurman’s sources tend to be reliable. However, his post is not entirely clear.
If the iPhone event is happening the first week of September, then iOS 18 beta 7 being the final release makes a lot of sense. Often there’s a 1-2 week gap between the last release and the iPhone event.
- it’s possible he’s saying that today’s iOS 18 beta is the final beta until the iPhone 16 debuts
- it’s also possible Gurman simply means there are no new features coming to future betas before the iPhone event
Gurman: iOS 18 is ‘final’ with beta 7 until iPhone 16 launch - 9to5Mac
Today following the release of iOS 18 developer beta 7, Mark Gurman has reported that iOS 18 is ‘final’ until the iPhone 16 event.
Time will tell who is right. I’m just sayin what my impression from Gurman are.
From 9to5
Gurman’s sources tend to be reliable. However, his post is not entirely clear.
If the iPhone event is happening the first week of September, then iOS 18 beta 7 being the final release makes a lot of sense. Often there’s a 1-2 week gap between the last release and the iPhone event.
- it’s possible he’s saying that today’s iOS 18 beta is the final beta until the iPhone 16 debuts
- it’s also possible Gurman simply means there are no new features coming to future betas before the iPhone event
Gurman: iOS 18 is ‘final’ with beta 7 until iPhone 16 launch - 9to5Mac
Today following the release of iOS 18 developer beta 7, Mark Gurman has reported that iOS 18 is ‘final’ until the iPhone 16 event.
Think of it this way: in past years, like this one, we get to this point in the process and the phones start rolling off the assembly line. They need software installed. Software that includes the new features on the new phones. Clearly, that is not the software that we have on our devices via the beta process.
So, notwithstanding what was said above about the compile dates being only a few days before the beta release date, Apple obviously has a version of iOS that is more complete than what the public is testing. In all likelihood, though, that software is probably pretty similar to what got released to developers today minus the new features.
So why would Apple release another beta next week? Because they want to keep stress testing it and also because what you are testing in beta 8 is probably laying the groundwork for 18.0.1.
The RC will be released at just about noon Pacific time on whatever day the new iPhones are announced. Most likely that is Tuesday, September 10th - three weeks from just about now.
And this will give Apple developers more time to work on iOS 18.1 as iOS 18.0 is done.
https://9to5mac.com/2024/08/20/apple-iphone-16-september-event/
What are your thoughts on this, if you don’t mind me asking?
What are your thoughts on this, if you don’t mind me asking?
They almost certainly are not going to hold it on the day after Labor Day given travel requirements, so that rules out September 3.
I don’t think they care about the presidential debate because the iPhone event occurs during the day and the debate would be in the evening.
If not like there’s a lot of Post announcement partying or afterglow going on.
I think September 10 is the most likely date.
September 3rd would seem really early compared to years past. Additionally, if the event was happening on September 3rd, you'd think they would have announced it today. I think we'll see the event announcement next Tuesday, and the event on September 10th.
However, in 2022, the event was held on a Wednesday (September 5th), and the same week as Labor Day. If that is to happen this year, then we should see the invite by tomorrow.
Regarding Beta 7 being the final beta, Apple won't let software beta timelines completely dictate hardware releases, because they can always push updates. Additionally, iOS 17 RC was only 3 builds ahead of Beta 8, so perhaps they have internally decided to just roll all build updates into RC and sparing another beta. That or they are reallocating resources to iOS 18.1 and crossing 18 off the list.
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Only that they might use this interim beta as what iPhones 16 are shipped with and the beta cycle continues with next weeks beta 8 and RC two weeks after beta 8 that puts the release mid Sept. Gurman is not a OS expert (never was), any gossip he spews is mostly hardware focused.
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Problem with the 10th is they will be competing with the debate news stories the following morning. And that night most of the news stories will be about the upcoming debate, again crowding out coverage of the event.
Unlikely. Apple has likely finalized the RC already, as they are typically a few weeks ahead internally of what is even provided to developers. The RC is what is being loaded on phones, maybe give or take a few builds. The days the new phones launch, we will probably see a 18.0.1 to clean up any last minute items discovered between now and launch.
I don't think the event will be on September 3rd though because that's the day after Labor Day and Apple has been providing 2 weeks notice for events. Since nothing was announced today, I'd rule that out. In 2022, the event was held on a Wednesday (September 5th), and the same week as Labor Day. If that is to happen this year, then we should see the invite by tomorrow. That would avoid the debate competition point, and not be unprecedented by Apple, while also aligning with the theory as to why Beta 7 is the last beta.
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Regardless of whatever the event date is, 100% the iPhone is releasing on Sept. 20th. No speculation, just facts 😂
As I said before, that is simply WRONG and not how software development works!
That. Is. And. Ever. Was. Simply. Wrong!
I really don’t know where that „fact“ is coming from. That’s not how software development works and would be totally pointless.
Just look at the compile-dates of the kernel of a random beta build: it was compiled some DAYS before that build went live.
At some time, they branch off a build from the main development tree and define it as a beta seed. And that ist usually a few days before that build is released. Then this build is compiled - quality checked - recompiled if needed (and that are the small letter at the end of the build) and tested again. But that usually does not take more than a week.
So even internally, they are not „weeks ahead“ or have the completed builds of upcoming betas lying around and just let time pass.
I’m curious, how can I see the date the build was complied on? On a Mac. Maybe once I’ve downloaded the IPSW (on Library-> iTunes -> media), should I right-click and “get info”?
Given that every year iPhones are in production prior to the last betas being released to developers and the public, I’m not sure you are correct here.
Software development at the scale Apple does it is bound to be different than just about how anyone else does it. No other company has such a tight deadline for integrating its software and new hardware every single year on that massive scale.
Thus I don’t think you can necessarily rely on the compile date of the software we see as being the definitive compile date of the software that Apple is deploying on the new iPhones.
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A long shot but let’s hope iOS 18.1 beta 3 drops today or tomorrow. 😁
And yet every single year iPhone's ship with software that is a later build than what is currently in beta, unless you think Apple is flashing and shipping millions of phones in the space of about 2 weeks which is unlikely.
Yeah, I think they load the GM when they assemble the phones, which is usually August.