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Technically, the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max are the only new iPhones since they use A17 Pro...

The iPhone 14 and 14 Plus use A15 Bionic initially used in the iPhone 13 series while the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus use A16 Bionic initially used in the iPhone 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max...
 
Apple not supporting a new feature on a one year old phone like the 15 would be absolutely absurd. It would indicate almost no forethought on Apple’s part as to what their roadmap should be. Not a good look.

It’s expected. None of the computational photography features ever get carried over to old models. AI is the new camera. Besides, Apple sells the regular iPhone 15 as an n-1 model. If you wanted the latest model, it is the Pro/Max.
 
Apple not supporting a new feature on a one year old phone like the 15 would be absolutely absurd. It would indicate almost no forethought on Apple’s part as to what their roadmap should be. Not a good look.
If it is really ram related, they can't just start spending RAM like candy. They already increased it for the 15P.
 
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Will of course not. Apple will never miss a chance to sell more hardware whether the customer needs it or not.
If I understand your inference correctly, you think Apple will hold back features that would run just fine on existing devices regardless of their chip and amount of RAM

No one will be forced to buy something they don't want. If you don't want it, don't buy it. If you want certain features that require a powerful enough processor and big enough RAM, then buy a new device. Want and need are very different things. People tend to buy the most powerful devices they can figure out a way to pay for regardless of need.

Either way, fanboys will figure out a way to blame Apple.
 
So, a phone that is only a year old in the product line (iPhone 15 / 15 Plus) won't be able to run new AI features… You should be ashamed of yourselves Apple! You're not winning hearts and minds with that one.

So glad I bought a 15 Plus and didn't pay the Pro tax for features I don't use. I'll wait until the AI features trickle down to cheaper models in about a year (like Dynamic Island did).
 
Even when scaled back for narrow use cases, LLMs require a lot of working memory due to the sheer number of parameters involved, so this could be where Apple is coming up against the hardware limitations of its own devices.
Whether you like AI or not, I like to think the era of SiriGPT leads to Apple putting more than 8 GB in their base model devices. 🤞
 
WTH, it took me forever to go from an iPhone 7plus to a 13plus. Crazy that they are doing this!
Perhaps the software actually does require more processor power and more RAM to function as intended.

If your 13+ is currently meeting your needs, you don't NEED to move up. My 12 Pro Max does everything I need and more. I will not move unless I see a clear need or I have money to waste with the latter being unlikely.
 
So, a phone that is only a year old in the product line (iPhone 15 / 15 Plus) won't be able to run new AI features… You should be ashamed of yourselves Apple! You're not winning hearts and minds with that one.

So glad I bought a 15 Plus and didn't pay the Pro tax for features I don't use. I'll wait until the AI features trickle down to cheaper models in about a year (like Dynamic Island did).
The latest S24 Ultra doesn't have on device AI and they announced their AI feautures during that. You should be happy that an actual old device gets it.
 
Remember the days when mobile CPU's were seeing large improvements year on year, and new features only worked on newer phones. Well it's the same again but with NPU's rather than CPU's. The 15 Pro has 2x the performance of the 15 so while it might be frustrating it's not really surprising that features are going to be gated to newer chips.
 
Not a single android device supports on device AI. Even the S24 ultra doesn’t.

Wtf are y’all complaining. Apple is actually doing better than the other companies lol.
Of course, Pixel 8 S24 etc. supports them via gemini nano...

Do you want to celebrate apple for implementing fancy "AI Emojis" or icon color changing or the upcoming AI notification summarization
"You have 3 notifications from WhatsApp" Thanks Siri
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Apple: Here is our new iPhone; it is 30% more powerful than any iPhone before it. It has magical smooth performance and is the most powerful phone yet, with our latest neural engine and AI capabilities. It is 200x more powerful than what humans used to land on the moon many years ago.

Also Apple (a year later): Only this brand new iPhone 15 here is capable of limiting the battery charge level to 80%.

I mean I get it, I get the motivation and benefits to Apple, I get the goals of experience and smoothness. Yes, this is all still speculation and sure, there might be real reasons why this would be the case but... eh...
 
Let’s see what the current HomePods are able to do…
Honestly, if the original HomePod received an enormous AI update, that would generate a huge amount of goodwill for Apple. That kind of move would make me consider actually buying new Apple products.

Well, you know, if they did it across the board and it didn't seem like a one-off.

As is, I feel like Apple's support policy is starting to resemble Google's or Spotify. Oh, you bought our phone last year for $1600? Too bad, we're not updating our software on your device, even though our developers literally had to develop and test this using older hardware that had unoptimized software and development/debug tools so we have 100% confidence that it would run on your hardware.

Tim Cook's Apple deserves no love or fans. If Tim Cook were to announce he were retiring, I think we'd see the stock surge with the market assuming anyone could run the company better than him. Same thing happened with Microsoft when Balmer announced he was retiring (and indeed, the market was right. Nadella's been doing a stellar job running Microsoft - quite likely the best CEO they've ever had.)
 
I am so sick of the AI "hype" that I am all in for avoiding as much AI "assistance" as possible. I own an iPhone that is included on the list that will not have total AI capability. That is ok with me, as I will probably turn off as many available AI features as I possibly can.
 
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