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Apple uses app icons that don’t work well in a circle format themselves as I earlier mentioned. With some apps it doesn’t make sense to change the whole icon design to support devices you have no intention of supporting. Case in point, Final Cut Pro has no circle version icon for watchOS or visionOS because it doesn’t support those platforms. Apple doesn’t say to use one icon that can used on all platforms in all cases, in fact, they have very different design guidelines for each of their platforms. Even watchOS and visionOS icons have different design guidelines for icons. macOS has different app icon design guidelines than iOS and iPadOS. And they require separate iterations of icons to perfectly follow these guidelines, just like Apple makes separate iterations of their own icons for these platforms. So it isn’t as simple as you are making it sound.

And yes, I do care about this, and so do many other people. I think it would make much more sense to make this an optional theming option, not the de facto one option that everyone is forced with. And luckily I think Apple would make it optional if they do it, just as they did with dark mode icons which was a far less major and controversial thing.
You frequently point out exceptions like it’s the case for the majority, it’s not and doesn’t disprove my point. Most will work fine out of the box.

I personally don’t really even think they will go the circle route, but if they do I’m pretty sure they will tell the users and devs who complain to suck it up.
 
You frequently point out exceptions like it’s the case for the majority, it’s not and doesn’t disprove my point. Most will work fine out of the box.

I personally don’t really even think they will go the circle route, but if they do I’m pretty sure they will tell the users and devs who complain to suck it up.
No, I’m just pointing out that not all icons will be that straightforward, that’s just a fact. I’m sure most could work okay, but there will be lots that won’t. With a theming option like Dark Mode Icons that some use and some don’t, if you have a couple of app icons that don’t fully support dark mode icons it isn’t a big deal. But when part of your app icon is cut off at the corners on the App Store and users Home Screen by default, that’s going to be a bigger issue. That’s a good reason to make this an optional theming option if they do it.

I don’t either, not by default, but I could see them adding an icon picker or more icon theming options. Possibly even shape options. I could see them following up the app icon customization options in iOS 18 with more options in iOS 19, especially now that customization has it’s own full menu that could be expanded and gain new options.

I’m all onboard with a theming option for you to get the look you’re wanting, but it seems all I get back is “they should change to circle icons and you should shut up and like it”. Luckily, I think Apple actually is likely to give us more options if they were to do something like that.
 
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I’m all onboard with a theming option for you to get the look you’re wanting, but it seems all I get back is “they should change to circle icons and you should shut up and like it”. Luckily, I think Apple actually is likely to give us more options if they were to do something like that.
I’ve said several times that I don’t have a preference.
 
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I really hope it doesn’t look like that. The circle icons look so out of place with rectangular and square widgets. It doesn’t look well balanced. And it would be back to the drawing board for many developer’s app icons, even though they literally just updated them for iOS 18. With that and no direct leaks yet claiming any kind of app icon shape change, I luckily think there’s a good chance that won’t happen. As an optional theming option that would be fine, just don’t force it on those of us who prefer the squircle look. And I think there’s a good chance they won’t do that.
Strongly agree with this. The only thing is I don't think an option for circle icon makes sense, because either you'll get a bunch of cut-off icons (like the ones you mentioned in a different comment) or developers still have to update their icons to support circles.
It's a complete waste of space when iPhone/iPad/Mac have rectangular displays with rectangular grids. On Vision Pro, I still think the squircles would look better, but the display is not a strict rectangular grid so it's not as big a deal. On Watch, the circle icons are compacted more into offset rows so they're closer together in the apps home page. I don't see Apple doing that for iPhone/iPad since widgets require a rectangular grid.
 
Strongly agree with this. The only thing is I don't think an option for circle icon makes sense, because either you'll get a bunch of cut-off icons (like the ones you mentioned in a different comment) or developers still have to update their icons to support circles.
It's a complete waste of space when iPhone/iPad/Mac have rectangular displays with rectangular grids. On Vision Pro, I still think the squircles would look better, but the display is not a strict rectangular grid so it's not as big a deal. On Watch, the circle icons are compacted more into offset rows so they're closer together in the apps home page. I don't see Apple doing that for iPhone/iPad since widgets require a rectangular grid.
Thanks. Yeah, I don’t know that they would have like a shape selection button or something like that, but I could see them possibly opening up to icon themes with an icon picker which could allow for shapes other than squircles. You can already do custom icons with Shortcuts and a couple of third party apps, why not make it easier with an option in the “Customize” menu? I could see them doing something like that following up iOS 18 and expanding on some of the features with iOS 19. 👍🏻
 
So far all we have is Gurman heard it looks more like visionOS and everything is speculation on his part because he hasn't seen anything. He might have a more credible leak closer to WWDC or he might just pull-a-Gurman and say it is delayed rather than issuing a retraction (which is getting increasingly frustrating). But if all iOS 19 brings is more transparency and icon changes, I will be very unimpressed.

Still waiting to see any rumors or anything about how this is a "dramatic overhaul." It's going to be visually different, sure, but is it better organization and workflow or just more of the same? Does it help me get to information faster? Does it help me find settings that are buried deep? Does it get out of my way with quicker animations? Is Spotlight smarter? Is App Library customizable? Or is there some entirely new idea about how to do the layout of Springboard? These things will excite me far more than transparency and icon changes.
 
So far all we have is Gurman heard it looks more like visionOS and everything is speculation on his part because he hasn't seen anything. He might have a more credible leak closer to WWDC or he might just pull-a-Gurman and say it is delayed rather than issuing a retraction (which is getting increasingly frustrating). But if all iOS 19 brings is more transparency and icon changes, I will be very unimpressed.

Still waiting to see any rumors or anything about how this is a "dramatic overhaul." It's going to be visually different, sure, but is it better organization and workflow or just more of the same? Does it help me get to information faster? Does it help me find settings that are buried deep? Does it get out of my way with quicker animations? Is Spotlight smarter? Is App Library customizable? Or is there some entirely new idea about how to do the layout of Springboard? These things will excite me far more than transparency and icon changes.
Totally agree. I think the changes will be more about simplifying user experience than a paint job, and that even lines up with what Gurman said. He said some visual elements may draw inspiration from visionOS, but the focus is on simplify interactions. Some seem to just be honing in on the “may draw some inspiration from visionOS” part, and making a bigger deal of that then the rest of what he said. I certainly think there will probably be some visual changes in iOS 19, and we’ll probably see more translucent menus and such, but I think it will still maintain a level of familiarity. Familiarity is crucial with iOS and Apple’s platforms. They’re not likely to do away with decades of muscle memory. But they are probably going to enhance and expand existing interactions, and work in new ones in a way that still feels somewhat familiar. I think there will be visual refreshes, but I think they’ll feel more like a refresh than completely different. Take the rumored Camera app design for example, while it looks a bit different, it still feels familiar, and still preserves lots of conventions from the current Camera app. It looks more like a visual refresh than a completely different thing. And that’s exactly what I expect we’ll likely see system-wide. And iOS already makes use of translucent panels for many things, my guess is that these will basically just be upgraded with a newer translucent design that mirrors the translucent panels in visionOS, with brighter illuminated edges around the panels (which also matches what we see with the new Siri design).
 
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That doesn't really tell us much as I'm sure the design isn't finalized. All that changed in that pic are navigation buttons and the keyboard, the actual app is untouched.
 
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That doesn't really tell us much as I'm sure the design isn't finalized. All that changed in that pic are navigation buttons and the keyboard, the actual app is untouched.
To be honest, while he’s generally a reputable source, it’s also just a mockup he created, so it could just be his idea and not even be the actual design being worked on. Who knows. Though I don’t think any of the things we see there are that far fetched.
 
while he’s generally a reputable source
Is he? Prosser also said the Series 8 watch was going to have the flat face (that ended up being the Ultra) and the iPhone 14 Pro was going to be titanium (that ended up being the 15 Pro). His sources are always "adjacent" to the truth, but he makes some inaccurate guesses on the missing bits that give him a bad track record. He takes the rumors he hears and adds some amount of wishful thinking and makes up something new that is definitely not what the leakers gave him.
 
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Is he? Prosser also said the Series 8 watch was going to have the flat face (that ended up being the Ultra) and the iPhone 14 Pro was going to be titanium (that ended up being the 15 Pro). His sources are always "adjacent" to the truth, but he makes some inaccurate guesses on the missing bits that give him a bad track record. He takes the rumors he hears and adds some amount of wishful thinking and makes up something new that is definitely not what the leakers gave him.
I guess what I should have said is that I don’t think he would necessarily purposefully lie and make it up, but it’s also a possibility, or perhaps he’s just got a bad source. My guess is the design is likely still somewhat in flux. 👍🏻 But yeah, I think a lot of these people so far are adding a lot of wishful thinking into things. Pretty much all of the more direct stuff we have currently is fairly vague. 👍🏻
 
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I don’t trust Prosser at all, but that Messages app looks fine to me. But again, Prosser’s track record is too inconsistent for me, so I’m taking it with a grain of salt.
 
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looking very disappointing, why did Mark make out this was going to be a huge change and not just a fresh coat of paint
 
That’s looking positive if he’s accurate with those mockups. All of those changes look nice. And we keep the squircle app icons!!! 👍🏻🎉
its so minor tho. I wanted something more dramatic. Mark Made out its more than just a fresh coat of paint
 
Anything specific you’d like to see added?

iOS 19 will reportedly be well beyond a fresh coat of paint, Apple executives think users will love it​

Apple executives are reportedly confident that users will love iOS 19. According to Mark Gurman's latest newsletter, iOS 19 is set to "alter the way people interact with their devices for many years to come."​


this is what Mark said, thats exciting, I would like a big ui change, now I cant explain exactly, but something fresh, not just new circle icons
 
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