These iOS 19 rumors are a roller coaster. I think I’m just going to sit this out until June.
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If Gurman has seen iOS 19 (instead of just heard about it second hand from sources), shouldn't we expect more substantial rumors? He hasn't said anything about how it is functionally different and all we have to go on still is "loosely based on visionOS."
Gurman: Jon Prosser's iOS 19 Mockups 'Aren't Representative' of Redesign
The iOS 19 mockup images that leaker Jon Prosser shared today are not representative of the actual iOS 19 design, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said on...www.macrumors.com
I hope Apple get better at AI, image playground is embarrassing compared to what OpenAI just released.
Whatever the redesign is, they need to change the Tips icon. It might be the worst thing they’ve ever designed
How is that the worst? I guess personally to me that looks fine. Not spectacular mind you, but fine. And since the app itself is one I never really have any need to use, I guess a meh icon is acceptable for it to me. The smiley face that’s supposed to equal “here’s where you find your files” is actually probably the most perplexing one to me. I get why they’ve stuck with it, because it’s classic to macOS, but maybe they could put the smiley face on a folder or something to make the purpose of the app clearer? Like a combo of the Files and Finder icons? I’m guessing they will probably do something like that at some point. 👍🏻. Some people might be upset because it’s classic to macOS, but I think it would make it much easier for people to figure out what the app does at a glance. 👍🏻
parallax effect is in ios 18, it just breaks when you enter app library or widgets view. in order to fix it you need to respring or reboot.
That new iCloud Find My design sure looks glassy.
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Actually… I’m observing my Find My app on iOS 18.1 and it actually looks more glassy or translucent on this previous version. But also more flat.
On yours, it has less translucency, but it has more depth, sort of like… neumorphism? They look like stickers.
It was initially rumoured that iOS 19 would support the same devices as iOS 18, but now that it is almost confirmed that we’re having a UI redesign, I seriously doubt that will be the case.
I think A13 devices will be the bare minimum for iOS 19. This is, iPhone 11 (and SE 2020), as well as the iPad 9th gen.
I think the GPU improvement that came with the A13 will likely be the minimum to move the new UI. We’ll see
I think A13 devices will be the bare minimum for iOS 19. This is, iPhone 11 (and SE 2020), as well as the iPad 9th gen.
I think the GPU improvement that came with the A13 will likely be the minimum to move the new UI. We’ll see
Yeah, I think design elements in apps will pretty much look like this in iOS 19. This is perfectly consistent with the WWDC25 logo’s translucent 3D look. And notice that the edge of the floating translucent panels reflect light on the edge. 👍🏻
iOS has a lot of transparent elements already so it may not be that much more demanding. There are a lot of A12 based devices (some a bit newer) so I can see it sticking around a little longer like the A10 iPad that runs 18.
It's hard to guess but I'm thinking Apple might be planning to drop the iPhone 11/11 Pro, SE 2, and XS/XR all at once in iOS 20. Would be the perfect timing for the foldable's release.
Yeah, I agree, I don’t think a new visual design would use that much more in terms of computing power than the current design. You don’t want your OSes visuals using up a decent portion of your chips computing power, you want them to be efficient. So I’m guessing the new design wouldn’t suddenly make a big difference in computing power needs vs the previous design. Now features definitely often require more computing power to run, so I could see it being dropped due to features that run too heavy. 👍🏻
I think the popup suggestions for the new Siri give us a good clue about what buttons in iOS 19 will look like. It matches the look of the 25 in the WWDC25 logo. 👍🏻. And note how the smaller icons hover a little over the buttons with shadow around them. It has a bit of neumorphism to it. 👍🏻
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I’m guessing it will be tied to Swift Code in part, so that existing apps using Apple’s SwiftUI will automatically benefit from the new translucent elements in their apps. I’m thinking SideBars to apps on iPadOS will become translucent and show the Home Screen and/or other apps through it slightly. Similar to some SideBars on macOS. In fact, I’m guessing a lot of visuals will actually end up looking somewhat similar to what macOS currently looks. App windows in macOS already have a light border at the edges, kind of like reflected light, and a shaded edge that makes it look somewhat 3D. They also have that frosted glass look in some of the SideBars as I already pointed out. And perhaps it will use icons similar to the neumorphic icons we currently find on macOS. 👍🏻
I think there are already several clues to what the new design will look like. I think we’ll see translucent pages that show background content on iPadOS app windows, especially when in Stage Manager, and likely translucent buttons on iOS, even if on a more solid color backdrop like in the FindMy setup. And I’m suspecting we’ll see more neumorphism. I think the reason Apple is confident users will like the new design is because they’ve already kind of been testing it out under our nose a little here and there. 👍🏻. And I think Gurman is correct that the focus isn’t as much on a paint job as much as streamlining and simplifying using the devices, and unifying the experience more. So while the visual changes will likely definitely be there, I don’t think that will be the defining change as much as probably some new UI paradigms that will be introduced or existing ones that will be refined and improved. It will be interesting to see what comes in 19. 👍🏻
I think there are already several clues to what the new design will look like. I think we’ll see translucent pages that show background content on iPadOS app windows, especially when in Stage Manager, and likely translucent buttons on iOS, even if on a more solid color backdrop like in the FindMy setup. And I’m suspecting we’ll see more neumorphism. I think the reason Apple is confident users will like the new design is because they’ve already kind of been testing it out under our nose a little here and there. 👍🏻. And I think Gurman is correct that the focus isn’t as much on a paint job as much as streamlining and simplifying using the devices, and unifying the experience more. So while the visual changes will likely definitely be there, I don’t think that will be the defining change as much as probably some new UI paradigms that will be introduced or existing ones that will be refined and improved. It will be interesting to see what comes in 19. 👍🏻
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I would like to throw here an idea. One that probably won’t be welcomed here, and I definitely may be wrong, but I just thought something:
If the new UI, not only the user interface but the whole user experience (UX) is shared among macOS, iOS and iPadOS… what if they ditch the macOS 16 and iOS 19 version numbers, and they just call them macOS, iOS, and iPadOS? Or maybe they unify them to the year number (macOS ‘25, iOS ‘25).
I’m saying this because of two reasons: first, starting with iOS 21, the OS number will start to sound a bit cumbersome. iOS 23? 26? 31? I think eventually they will ditch this numeration and this upcoming year, with the unified experience, looks like a good year to do so.
Second: if rumours are true, the three operating systems will be closer than ever, both in appearance and functionality. If this is true, then having them 3 versions away (macOS 16, iOS/iPadOS 19) makes little sense.
I know this might be controversial, but I think this year is the right one to pull the trigger and unify even more the three systems.
If the new UI, not only the user interface but the whole user experience (UX) is shared among macOS, iOS and iPadOS… what if they ditch the macOS 16 and iOS 19 version numbers, and they just call them macOS, iOS, and iPadOS? Or maybe they unify them to the year number (macOS ‘25, iOS ‘25).
I’m saying this because of two reasons: first, starting with iOS 21, the OS number will start to sound a bit cumbersome. iOS 23? 26? 31? I think eventually they will ditch this numeration and this upcoming year, with the unified experience, looks like a good year to do so.
Second: if rumours are true, the three operating systems will be closer than ever, both in appearance and functionality. If this is true, then having them 3 versions away (macOS 16, iOS/iPadOS 19) makes little sense.
I know this might be controversial, but I think this year is the right one to pull the trigger and unify even more the three systems.
I actually have been thinking the exact same thing. Maybe Apple could name them all after a place, similar to what they already do with macOS. There could still be a technical version number, but they could just call them by a place name, or eventually another naming convention like what they’ve done for years now with macOS versions. I think this would actually be a good thing. It’s hard to keep track of what the current version is of some of the newer OSes. Currently you have a rats nest of different version numbers that are confusing for average people. You ask them “what version of watchOS do you have installed on your Apple Watch?”, and they reply “I don’t know, I have iOS 18, so watchOS 18?”. With the introduction of visionOS and it having such a small version number comparably makes this even worse. Giving them all a place name to identify the releases for a year would greatly simplify matters. “I’m running watchOS Sequoia because I have iOS Sequoia installed on my iPhone” is so much easier for average users. Heck, I’m tech literate and follow this stuff closely, and I don’t even know what version of tvOS is current, because I don’t have an Apple TV. 😂. I think unifying the naming convention would be a great idea, and they could still keep the number versions for developers and such when needed to identify separate minor updates.
I’d also love to see the other platforms share similar wallpapers like the abstract landscape ones we see on the Mac. They could be separate, maybe even different angles or portions of the same landscape, but could all be that wonderful minimalist gradient landscape art we see every year on macOS since Big Sur. I love those wallpapers, I usually use them on my iPad because I like the abstract landscape wallpapers better than just the abstract overlapping bubble wallpapers. 👍🏻
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I would absolutely love to see a unification of the version numbers, especially since it always annoyed me that macOS stayed at version 10 for so many years. It’s one of those things that some ridiculous commenters on here would say “Steve would never” despite the fact it was literally him who kept it at version 10 for so many years.
However…
I feel like the fact that they haven’t done It already gives me the feeling they won’t be doing it anytime soon.
They could have done it with iOS 10, when it was still Mac OS 10.12, but they didn’t.
They could have done it with macOS Big Sur, where it was literally a big deal that the version number changed, but they didn’t.
They could have done it with visionOS 1.0, and just started with it immediately synchronized to the iOS version number, but they didn’t.
Which makes me think, when it comes to naming and version numbers, it’s going to be business as usual.
However…
I feel like the fact that they haven’t done It already gives me the feeling they won’t be doing it anytime soon.
They could have done it with iOS 10, when it was still Mac OS 10.12, but they didn’t.
They could have done it with macOS Big Sur, where it was literally a big deal that the version number changed, but they didn’t.
They could have done it with visionOS 1.0, and just started with it immediately synchronized to the iOS version number, but they didn’t.
Which makes me think, when it comes to naming and version numbers, it’s going to be business as usual.
Yeah, I don’t hold high hopes to be honest.
But I also must say, that I understand why macOS stayed in the X version got so long. If you recall those years, the new features and changes on macOS were minimal. And it was on Big Sur when they released it for ARM, and with a brand new design. And lots of features started to come to the Mac, bringing more and more parity with iOS.
Yes, Big Sur could have been a good moment to normalise the version number, but jumping from macOS 10.15 to macOS 14 would have been a bit weird.
Oh my God you made me count versions, and I just realised that macOS 11 Big Sur was released… almost 6 years ago!!!!