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iOS 7 and Maps still sucks
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If by "loss of business" you mean your own business, Apple uses Yelp data for business information, including the addy, so, maybe try Yelp support.
This is why I wish Apple would drop Yelp and either buy or license Foursquare data, it's much more accurate and up to date, not to mention the app is 1000% better.
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You're off topic, but, yes Mavericks is free, and yes, they used to charge to upgrade your OS from whatever OS your Mac came with.So is Mavericks really free since they used to charge for their OS?
iOS 7 and Maps still sucks
Being in the technical service field I'd answer no. Software/hardware designed for future updates carries that as an initial expense.
So say someone at the company I work for writes a program to control a piece of equipment. If the consumer wants it supported and updated (not bug fixes but feature add ons) then that expense is built in during the initial bill of sale.
That expense can be built in anywhere. This is what give people the illusion of getting something for free. So say a company purchases an HVAC system from the company I work for, it includes building automation to do a ton of fancy stuff be controlled from the internet blah blah. When a "free" software or hardware update comes out it's just an update that the consumer already paid us for. They just don't have to pay at that time so it would seem to be free.
Actually giving a customer something for free means you are working in the red. Businesses don't last very long if you do that. Grandparents give presents not Apple.
I think Mavericks is the closest thing to free Apple has ever done however it's not really free when it comes with prerequisites....
Edit : found the article I was looking for on mavericks
http://techland.time.com/2013/10/24/yes-os-x-mavericks-is-free-wait-no-it-isnt-or-is-it/
So is Mavericks really free since they used to charge for their OS?
Being in the technical service field I'd answer no. Software/hardware designed for future updates carries that as an initial expense.
So say someone at the company I work for writes a program to control a piece of equipment. If the consumer wants it supported and updated (not bug fixes but feature add ons) then that expense is built in during the initial bill of sale.
That expense can be built in anywhere. This is what give people the illusion of getting something for free. So say a company purchases an HVAC system from the company I work for, it includes building automation to do a ton of fancy stuff be controlled from the internet blah blah. When a "free" software or hardware update comes out it's just an update that the consumer already paid us for. They just don't have to pay at that time so it would seem to be free.
Actually giving a customer something for free means you are working in the red. Businesses don't last very long if you do that. Grandparents give presents not Apple.
I think Mavericks is the closest thing to free Apple has ever done however it's not really free when it comes with prerequisites....
Edit : found the article I was looking for on mavericks
http://techland.time.com/2013/10/24/yes-os-x-mavericks-is-free-wait-no-it-isnt-or-is-it/
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For general route-finding and car navigation I find it fine (apart from the pastel colours), but for POIs I think it's still very poor
I agree, the main problem with POIs is that Apple uses Yelp for POI data. I find Foursquare to be more accurate, more up-to-date, and their app is 1000x better. I wish Apple would integrate Foursquare instead of Yelp. Yelp still leads me to the middle of nowhere, when the business is 5 blocks down the street, or to a business that is closed, has been for a while.
In the past few months, Apple maps has routed me to the wrong location 4 times. In every situation, I just fell back to Google maps and it was able to get me there.
Apple maps still needs a lot of work, even in the US; I live near Portland, Oregon.
Apple maps still needs a lot of work, even in the US; I live near Portland, Oregon.
Apple Maps keeps reminding me of how detailed and up to date Google Maps is. In some ways, Apple's Maps is not that bad, if you are comparing it to that 10 year old Rand McNally paper road atlas you keep under the front seat for when your iPhone is out of range of your cell service. On the other hand, the Apple maps never seems to get the memo when some road or ramp has been closed off by a fence for major construction, or when some business moved two or three years ago. I admit that I have been surprised on numerous occasions that Google Maps knew about something pretty recent and insignificant.
One weakness that both products have is that they lack a consistent way to deal with areas that are closed off to the general public but open with permission (e.g. a military base). On the one hand, you don't want people to think they can drive through something they can't without permission. On the other hand, sometimes you do have permission.
One weakness that both products have is that they lack a consistent way to deal with areas that are closed off to the general public but open with permission (e.g. a military base). On the one hand, you don't want people to think they can drive through something they can't without permission. On the other hand, sometimes you do have permission.
iOS Maps
I travel quite a bit, iOS Maps has been so good I took Tom Tom off my iPhone. I would hate to see Apple get help from Google, last thing I want is anything google on my phone selling any information they can about me. I don't trust them one bit.
I travel quite a bit, iOS Maps has been so good I took Tom Tom off my iPhone. I would hate to see Apple get help from Google, last thing I want is anything google on my phone selling any information they can about me. I don't trust them one bit.
I wish Apple would get help from someone, their directions are wrong about 20% of the time for me.
Today I was stuck in freeway traffic and wanted to get off the freeway and use surface streets. Well Apple Maps does not allow me the option to do that. I was very upset and surprised. Google maps does, so does motion X. Why not allow such an important route option!!!!
I find both google maps and apple maps have both given me wrong directions so it's a toss up and one time they both gave me same wrong directions. In the end I end up using one or the other.
I have both installed just in case as I have had both give bad directions from time to time. I usually use Apple Maps but if it's somewhere away from civilisation I double check on Google maps, but that's just common sense.
Edwin
I have both installed just in case as I have had both give bad directions from time to time. I usually use Apple Maps but if it's somewhere away from civilisation I double check on Google maps, but that's just common sense.
Edwin
Basically that's what I do. It's so sad that someone just can't get it right. Lol
It's a tricky problem but I do find 99% of the time both services are correct, it's only if I am looking for a strange location in a rural area when it send you up a dirt road
I have both installed just in case as I have had both give bad directions from time to time. I usually use Apple Maps but if it's somewhere away from civilisation I double check on Google maps, but that's just common sense.
Edwin
I do the same.
That's my problem with it though. I use Apple maps for its integration, Google maps for its accuracy. I wish one offered both (for me in the areas I travel).
Tom tom has always been terrible in my area. I bought a tom tom stand alone years ago and figured that's just how GPS's were. I then got a Garmin and found a world of difference especially when it's pin pointing and address.
iOS 7 and Maps still sucks
Here is an example of my above post.
Google maps.
Here is Apple maps.
Things to note.
1. It's a common driveway, Google is pointing right by the house. While Apple is pointing at the wrong house. Technically that isn't even the correct drive way.
2. Google is providing traffic data where as Apple has none for that road.
3. Satellite imagine is clearer and more up to date then Apples.
I use a sat nav all day long and nearly every single time I can find a couple points of why Googles is better. There are circumstances that Google just screws it up. However I find that few and far between.
Here is an example of my above post.
Google maps.
Here is Apple maps.
Things to note.
1. It's a common driveway, Google is pointing right by the house. While Apple is pointing at the wrong house. Technically that isn't even the correct drive way.
2. Google is providing traffic data where as Apple has none for that road.
3. Satellite imagine is clearer and more up to date then Apples.
I use a sat nav all day long and nearly every single time I can find a couple points of why Googles is better. There are circumstances that Google just screws it up. However I find that few and far between.
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Not defending Apple Maps here, just a tip which you may already know, but I think that's in Satellite mode rather than Hybrid - only Standard and Hybrid show traffic. Not to say you didn't check Standard/Hybrid, either
I rarely find Google being better than Apple, I get the odd case either way but no major trend.
Edwin
Here's a hilarious video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQkZ2CV3Fb0
"Apple Promises To Fix Glitches In Map Software By Rearranging Earth's Geography"
All of a sudden, Apple Maps makes sense!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQkZ2CV3Fb0
"Apple Promises To Fix Glitches In Map Software By Rearranging Earth's Geography"
All of a sudden, Apple Maps makes sense!
Not defending Apple Maps here, just a tip which you may already know, but I think that's in Satellite mode rather than Hybrid - only Standard and Hybrid show traffic. Not to say you didn't check Standard/Hybrid, either
You're right. However I missed two things. One is like you mentioned it was in satellite mode. Two I believe Apple maps doesn't show clear traffic, only blockages (could be wrong). When switching to standard view still nothing was shown.
That's another point however. If I have show traffic on I'd like to see if it's clear. That way I can distinguish which roads do and do not even receive traffic data. I'm really surprised google provides traffic data for that road pictured above (45-50 mph single lane lined with homes in a rural area). Looking at Apples traffic I would have assumed it was too small of a road to receive such data.
I'm in the 40% of people that thinks Apple maps is great. Google maps doesn't even have the street I live on spelled correctly. Have written them three times in the last year and they still don't correct it.
Have found not mistakes on Apple maps in my area.
Have found not mistakes on Apple maps in my area.
I could but I'm not putting a map to my house on the internet. Apple spells my street name correctly and Google maps does not. Have written them three times with no correction.
I use to have Navigon (Garmin) on my iPhone 4 and it was very accurate. After getting my iPhone 5 with Apple Maps and Turn by Turn, I noticed that it was just as accurate, but vastly superior in some ways then Navigon. The one draw back is Traffic info, and for that I use Waze or Google Maps, but once I'm done with that, I go back to Apple Maps. I don't know why Apple is so lacking in traffic info, but I contribute it to them offering users to opt-in to being tracked. If everyone turned this feature on, I think their traffic data would be far more accurate.
I've also been using Apple Maps for just over a year and a half, and in that time period, I'd estimate I've used it a good 50-70 times, give or take a few. In that time period, it has misguided me twice. Once was when I was looking to find a place to eat and it said the restaurant was on the north side of the street when it was on the south side. The other time, I was looking for a repair shop and I put the address in my iPhone. Got me to the correct street, but it took me a mile and a half west of the actual address. It kept insisting I was at the correct location. I finally found the correct place (their sign was tucked away) and once I did I sent a report to Apple.
I've also been using Apple Maps for just over a year and a half, and in that time period, I'd estimate I've used it a good 50-70 times, give or take a few. In that time period, it has misguided me twice. Once was when I was looking to find a place to eat and it said the restaurant was on the north side of the street when it was on the south side. The other time, I was looking for a repair shop and I put the address in my iPhone. Got me to the correct street, but it took me a mile and a half west of the actual address. It kept insisting I was at the correct location. I finally found the correct place (their sign was tucked away) and once I did I sent a report to Apple.