iOS 8 Music App Questions

[Yaboze]

Didn't look at every picture or read every post, but how hard is it to just list albums by Artist in alphabetical order?

The way it does it now, by expanding each album and in chronological order is a nightmare. Horrible.

 

[570934]

I've been asking about the reappearance of the old shuffle icon back in the player. Can someone please confirm that they have now gone back to how it was prior to iOS7 and you can now select artist, song, or album? From iOS7 they changed it depending if you are playing an album from artist or selected the album from the album list.

1-2 1-2 Is this working? Anyone answer my question please?

 

[elfary]

I'm afraid i don't understand you. Anyway Windows phone inspired apps do a nice job for history:

In general i always strive for artwork on the grounds that an image conveys more than words.

 

[Dreamliner330]

Why can't the music app allow you to long press the song to instantly add it to your "on-the-go" playlist like the iPod Classic.

Such a basic feature, I'm surprised nobody else complains and no one in the iOS design team used. Lost since touch.

(Having to browse your entire collection to add the song you currently listening to to your playlist is ridiculous)

 

[IronWaffle]

Why can't the music app allow you to long press the song to instantly add it to your "on-the-go" playlist like the iPod Classic.

Such a basic feature, I'm surprised nobody else complains and no one in the iOS design team used. Lost since touch.

(Having to browse your entire collection to add the song you currently listening to to your playlist is ridiculous)

Agreed. That feature is in the stock podcast app for its built-in "on the go" playlist (not to mention the best 3rd party music apps).

It often feels like no one in the programming or more likely the management team are real users. Not to pull the old "this would never happen your Steve Jobs" trope, but he is known for been quite an audiophile who loved vinyl. I do think he had a stronger grasp on the ordering principles and features which music collectors really want.

I have high hopes that iOS 9 May restore some of the app's usability but the more I use Marvis (or even Ecoute) the less I care.

 

[IronWaffle]

I haven't played much with the new Music app but I can already tell I won't be using it that much. I don't know who thought it was a good idea to move the Artist/Album/Song/etc. categories from the bottom row but I do know whoever thought that those options should scroll up above the screen and disappear when you scroll your music is a cruel, cruel person -- and/or not very smart. Terrible idea.

I'm also curious how their algorithms decide what's "recently added" because that list is a hodgepodge spanning several years. I could go on, but why bother.

 

[John6Plus]

Please, isn't this an iOS 8 Music App thread? This confused the hell out of me before I realized you weren't even talking about the iOS music app.

Anyway, I like the new app, and the new way they handle Artist/Album hierarchy is much better (and pretty) though still not 100% what I'd like, it's close enough. EXCEPT it arbitrarily ignores my "sort as" field. A.C. Newman should be in the N's, the way the world has operated forever, not the A's. However, some artists DO sort properly with the Sort As field I've set up. I can't make heads or tails of why it works for some and not others. May try resyncing my whole library when I get a chance.

Also, in Artist view, for most artists it shows the collapsed albums (much easier to navigate) but some it shows them expanded (though - hallelujah - I can still touch the album "bar" and have it play JUST that album... iOS 8.3 didn't work like that did it?). Again, no rhyme or reason for which artists show this way. Seems independent of number of albums, whether they're sorted properly (see above) etc.

 

[John6Plus]

I haven't played much with the new Music app but I can already tell I won't be using it that much. I don't know who thought it was a good idea to move the Artist/Album/Song/etc. categories from the bottom row but I do know whoever thought that those options should scroll up above the screen and disappear when you scroll your music is a cruel, cruel person -- and/or not very smart. Terrible idea.

I'm also curious how their algorithms decide what's "recently added" because that list is a hodgepodge spanning several years. I could go on, but why bother.

Haven't noticed the Recently Added issue... seems legit to me.

The Artist/Album/Song placement makes sense to me because I almost always stick to one way of sorting, and not having it take up space on the bottom is ok with me. At any rate, touching the top of the screen (at the time) will pop you back to the top of the list very quickly, but I guess this is one of those cases where not everyone uses it the same way.

 

[IronWaffle]

It arbitrarily ignores my "sort as" field. A.C. Newman should be in the N's, the way the world has operated forever, not the A's. However, some artists DO sort properly with the Sort As field I've set up. I can't make heads or tails of why it works for some and not others. May try resyncing my whole library when I get a chance.[/I]

I'm having this issue too. There's no rhyme or reason in which artists it ignores the sorting. Looking at albums and songs, I also notice that the app alphabetizes using the articles (A, An, The, etc.) instead of ignoring them.

I may remove all music from my iPhone by unchecking it in iTunes, syncing it, then re-checking it in iTunes and see if that fixes it. I'll post whether that does the job.

 

[imagineadam]

Found a bug. When I make albums available offline the little icon that should show next to the song that shows its on the device doesn't show up unless I go through and mark each song individually for offline even though they have been already downloaded for sure because they show up in the usage under music.

 

[cjhmr]

I might be missing something, but is there a way to allow Apple Music to use cellular data without needing to turn off automatic app updates or allowing app updates to eat through my data plan?

 

[starmac]

I might be missing something, but is there a way to allow Apple Music to use cellular data without needing to turn off automatic app updates or allowing app updates to eat through my data plan?

This is my biggest issue with the update.

 

[Reddkryten]

Does anyone else have this problem with the latest iOS music app? I skimmed the last few pages but didn't see it mentioned.

All of my album artwork is gone. Most of my music came from CDs and the files have high quality artwork embedded. Is this a known issue, or is this new? Would deleting and re syncing the music help, or does the new version simply not support album art from outside the iTunes Store?

 

[whsbuss]

How do you delete a created radio station?

 

[Homme]

Apple... Why are you giving a 3 month free music trial only that I'm denied this because I don't have any store credit remaining for a subscription

That's wrong to include that for a 3 month free trial.

 

[John6Plus]

I found a solution to two of the problems above, Bad sorting of Artists (ignoring "sort as" field) and missing artwork

1. In iTunes, uncheck the music library and remove it from your phone.

2. Once it is 100% done syncing (no more spinning arrows on the phone) go into usage->storage->manage storage.

3. I still had 20GB of music. (All purchased AAC, but oddly not all of my purchased AAC.) Delete it. Phone appeared to freeze while deleting, but waited it out and it was gone.

4. Resync from iTunes, everything is peachy.

I can use sort by artists again! Woo!

(Now to fix the sort by year within each artist which is frequently wrong, as when remastered are done...)

 

[MentalFloss]

Found a bug. When I make albums available offline the little icon that should show next to the song that shows its on the device doesn't show up unless I go through and mark each song individually for offline even though they have been already downloaded for sure because they show up in the usage under music.

Yes, I made a whole thread to vent about this. It's absolutely confusing and makes me paranoid about whether a song is really really available offline.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/making-songs-available-offline-is-a-mess.1896673/

 

[Armand.Welsh]

I'm completely confused what you are trying to do. The music app works fine. You have always been able to search or browse by artist, album, genre, playlist, song title.

Are you trying to cascade you search so you can bring up artist, and from there if you click on album you get all the alums for the artist? This doesn't make sense. When you select the artist you get the songs from the artist and each song is listed under the album. If you want to play just that album you can.

 

[IronWaffle]

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