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Battery seems better on this version — as often seems to be the case with betas — on my iPhone SE. And yes I realize Low Power Mode is activated (in addition to no Background App Refresh, no Spotlight indexing, transparency reduction, et cetera).
 

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Battery seems better on this version — as often seems to be the case with betas — on my iPhone SE. And yes I realize Low Power Mode is activated (in addition to no Background App Refresh, no Spotlight indexing, transparency reduction, et cetera).
What's at the top of that list? I'm assuming audio cos that's great battery life
 

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Where is the 'art and entertainment' category in iBooks store? Probably others missing too, it's just that my book was in that chart
 

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And that wasn't as "good" as 7.1.2 was, which itself wasn't as "good" as 6.1.3 was, etc.
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That would be incorrect indeed.
Which proves my belief that planned obsolescence indeed exists to force users to upgrade
 

Radon87000

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Yup, the few frame drops in a few places that most don't even notice let alone care about are definitely part of an amazingly worthwhile planned obsolescence conspiracy.
Thats part of their strategy.Let me make it clear.Let us assume that iPhone 6 was slowed down 15% after 8.4.1 .Not many are going to notice this degradation.By the time it reaches iOS 10,its gone up progressively to 30% which makes it an annoyance to use although not unusable.By the time it reaches iOS 11,the device is basically unusable (for instance the iPad Mini 1 and iPad 2 )

Apple isnt a fool to heavily slow it down in one go.Its done in "instalments" .Hopefully the declining sales will force a rethink amongst Apple's executives .Its time they woke up and smelt the coffee
 
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i've got a contract on watch 1, when it's over, i can pass on watch 2 :) watch os 3 will be released along with iOS 10 isn't it?

Am I missing something??
How can you have a "contract" on something with no cellular connection..?
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iOS 10 beta is around the corner. It will be in beta testing for like 4 months... iOS 9 updates will still need to come out in that time.. There will probably be 9.4 and 10 betas out at the same time

Well.... mid-June to mid-September is 3 months, not 4- but I agree with the rest, lol.
 

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Please stay on topic. some posts were removed as they did not pertain to the subject matter.
 
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Thats part of their strategy.Let me make it clear.Let us assume that iPhone 6 was slowed down 15% after 8.4.1 .Not many are going to notice this degradation.By the time it reaches iOS 10,its gone up progressively to 30% which makes it an annoyance to use although not unusable.By the time it reaches iOS 11,the device is basically unusable (for instance the iPad Mini 1 and iPad 2 )

Apple isnt a fool to heavily slow it down in one go.Its done in "instalments" .Hopefully the declining sales will force a rethink amongst Apple's executives .Its time they woke up and smelt the coffee
Yeah, except that hasn't been the case for most.
 

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Then why is Apple on the first page of the Google search results for planned obsolescence?Do note those results and search suggestions are determined on popularity
Just like plenty of other conspiracies would be on the first page when they are searched for...that doesn't provide evidence or proof for them. It seems that we are back to the same old things of how reality and logic don't work that way.

And, once gain, this isn't the thing that this thread is about anyway, so no point of re-traveling the same old beaten path that's been travelled on many times before.
 
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I'm not sure how new this is but this is the first time I've seen it. (And first time my phones locked during a call)
 

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Excuse my bad manners, but what the....did Apple do wrong this time? iOS 9.3.2 did fine with batterylife...but iOS 9.3.3 Beta 1 is horrible. It's a minor update from 9.3.2 as well!

Yes, i know it's a Beta and yada, yada, yada...but what could Apple possible do, to screw up batterylife this bad? Maybe related to the new Darwin Kernel?

Edit: Went back to 9.3.2...and have for the last hour and a half redownloaded apps, setting up my phone etc...and batterylife is good.

Please Apple (yeah, i know they don't read on these messageboards) get your stuff together...

I miss Steve & Scott...they did good! Tim & Jony is like...i don't know...not so much.

Maybe a Samsung S7 Edge? Naah, i love my iSweetheart to much!
 
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I just checked and I'm seeing the 'same usage and standby times' bug on 9.3.2 as well. Is this normal? I've not installed the 9.3.3 beta.
 

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Excuse my bad manners, but what the....did Apple do wrong this time? iOS 9.3.2 did fine with batterylife...but iOS 9.3.3 Beta 1 is horrible. It's a minor update from 9.3.2 as well!

Yes, i know it's a Beta and yada, yada, yada...but what could Apple possible do, to screw up batterylife this bad? Maybe related to the new Darwin Kernel?

Edit: Went back to 9.3.2...and have for the last hour and a half redownloaded apps, setting up my phone etc...and batterylife is good.

Please Apple (yeah, i know they don't read on these messageboards) get your stuff together...

I miss Steve & Scott...they did good! Tim & Jony is like...i don't know...not so much.

Maybe a Samsung S7 Edge? Naah, i love my iSweetheart to much!

Entirely normal. Betas have extra background processes running. Every other beta I've installed has horrible battery life. The next beta always fixes it. Been that way for years.

BTW you didn't have to restore your device as new by going back. Option+Update in iTunes will reinstall 9.3.2 and keep data intact. Did it on two devices 2 nights ago.

I just checked and I'm seeing the 'same usage and standby times' bug on 9.3.2 as well. Is this normal? I've not installed the 9.3.3 beta.

No. That's not normal. You might have something stuck in background. Try a hard reset.
 

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Yes you can compare it to an iPad. A charge cycle is a charge cycle. Both an iPhone and iPad are rated for 500 cycles. Doesn't matter how you get to that 500. One a day or one a year. 500 is 500.

But fine. If you want to only compare phones. I sold my iPhone 6 with 372 cycles at 97% battery health remaining. That's only 3% usage.

Wait. Charging it only once a day does not make you a heavy user? That's the most absurd thing I've heard. I get 10 hours of usage and 18 hours of standby every day. 10 solid hours of usage isn't a heavy user?

Ok fair point but your gonna have fewer cycles on an iPad over a year due to battery size but agree cycles are cycles.

I'm obviously not using my phone right. 10 hours usage on my 6S would be a miracle. I have 9% wear on 248 cycles according to my Battery Life app.
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Entirely normal. Betas have extra background processes running. Every other beta I've installed has horrible battery life. The next beta always fixes it. Been that way for years.

BTW you didn't have to restore your device as new by going back. Option+Update in iTunes will reinstall 9.3.2 and keep data intact. Did it on two devices 2 nights ago.



No. That's not normal. You might have something stuck in background. Try a hard reset.
It's only normal the day after an update as you have indexing the factor in. This can take up 100 usage in 12 hours. Depending on the type of update.
 

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Ok fair point but your gonna have fewer cycles on an iPad over a year due to battery size but agree cycles are cycles.

I'm obviously not using my phone right. 10 hours usage on my 6S would be a miracle. I have 9% wear on 248 cycles according to my Battery Life app.
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It's only normal the day after an update as you have indexing the factor in. This can take up 100 usage in 12 hours. Depending on the type of update.

If I get less than 8 hours on my 6s, that's a bad battery day. Last night I plugged it in with 10:12 of usage and 17:48 standby with 8% remaining, low power mode was not enabled at all.

I'm at 133 cycles and 2% battery wear.
 

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I guess percentage usage isn't comparable. There is 1% gentle web browsing, or 1% hammering of GPU via GPU intensive gaming etc. I guess a better comparison would be to compare CPU and GPU operations per hour of usage. It's merely a figure of non-idle time, which isn't useful to compare vs other users.
 

Makale.Helvetia

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Am I missing something??
How can you have a "contract" on something with no cellular connection..?

it's available in Turkey, our operators Turkcell,Vodafone and Turk Telekom is adding watches to your mobile phone's tariff and you are paying monthly hire purchase for 24 months :) or you can buy directly without adding it to your mobile phone's tariff
 

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it's available in Turkey, our operators Turkcell,Vodafone and Turk Telekom is adding watches to your mobile phone's tariff and you are paying monthly hire purchase for 24 months :) or you can buy directly without adding it to your mobile phone's tariff

Damn... these companies be QUICK to find ways to rope people in to a couple little "impulse" purchases, lol.

I bought the 1st gen Apple Watch, enjoyed it, but didn't use it enough- so I sold it on eBay.
I'm hoping to try again prolly 3rd gen. My new baby will be "toddling" around at that point & I'll have no excuse to not start exercising more and trying to get my body back, lol.
 
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