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iOS 9 is making me hate Apple
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No way. Dealing with 50 to 100 iPhones a week, iOS 9 is way better than 8. 8 sucked, big time.
No way. Fluidity, yes iOS 8 is better at the moment. Stability, hands down iOS 9 here. iOS 8 page reloads, Safari crashes and springboard crashes were prevalent on iOS 8 here. I would rather deal with animation issues, until they work them out, then be on an unstable OS.
iOS 8 was terribly unreliable on my 6+. Now with iOS 9, I'll be keeping my 6+ until iPhone 7.
You see, this is the problem with folks who value fluidity over anything, they make it seem that iOS 9 is somehow crippled. It is not. It's just not up to up yours and others fluidity standards yet.
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Very good point! With the addition of more features = the slowdown of your device. It's up to the user to decide whether they want to sacrifice speed for more features (and possibly downgraded reliability)
I still know a kid who was upset when he called iOS 6 on a iPad 2 slow, upgraded it to iOS 9 and, still complained about it. i felt no sympothy
Very good point! With the addition of more features = the slowdown of your device. It's up to the user to decide whether they want to sacrifice speed for more features (and possibly downgraded reliability)
I still know a kid who was upset when he called iOS 6 on a iPad 2 slow, upgraded it to iOS 9 and, still complained about it. i felt no sympothy
Thanks. Here's the thing, iOS 9.2 b2 is addressing the fluidity issues. App Switcher is tons better on my 6+ on 9.2 b2, versus 9.1. So they're definitely working on it, but not fast enough for some. Even the new S's have some of these issues, so it's definitely software related. Patience is all they got at the moment and a forum to vent their frustrations.
I think I prefer a rock over Samsung's Android offerings. Hoping it doesn't come to this though.
It's not selective memory.
It's because when people said so, they were comparing iOS 9.0 with iOS 8.4.1, iOS 8.0 with iOS 7.1.2, iOS 7.0 with iOS 6.1.4. You get the idea - Comparing a new, not-fully-optimized or relatively-bug-free version of iOS to a previous version of iOS that received a year of fixes and small enhancements.
And also, iOS is indeed getting more and more clunky year-by-year.
More features = Bigger system partition size + More RAM and CPU usage.
Focus on New Features = Neglected old features and weird bugs by interference.
Skyrocketing CPU and GPU power in development units (next-gen hardware) + Engineers' unwillingness to personally test new OS on older hardware = Lack of optimization.
See I would be okay if it was just lag but my 6s Plus is crashing about twice a day. This morning my alarm didn't go off because my phone was off. Glad my Apple Watch is still reliable to have alarms.
Some are too heavily invested to change. Others don't know any better. Still others are afraid to change. All kinds of reasons to stick with iOS.
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It's a case of trading one set of bugs for a different set of bugs. In some areas 8.x was better, in others 9.x is better. Just don't get why they cannot deliver something polished for launch.
Comparing it to what? iOS 8 had its own launch issues. In my case, iOS 9 has been very successful stability wise. Folks who put a higher priority on fluidity think otherwise. I do not miss the page reloads, Safari crashes and springboard crashes I had with 8. iOS 9 couldn't come fast enough for me.
I don't agree with the statement that iOS 9 is worse than iOS 8. I found iOS 9 at launch to be so much more stable and bug free than iOS 8 was for many months (for me iOS 8 was the worst iOS experience I've had to date, even though it brought some of my favourite features to iOS such as quick reply texting)
But I also think if people are experiencing frequent crashes on their phone, or alarm issues which can cause them to miss important appointments, simply because the operating system isn't working for them* and how they expect it to, then by all means they have every right to feel fed up.
Especially when you spend so much on a phone, these buggy experiences are all that more unpleasant to go through.
But I also think if people are experiencing frequent crashes on their phone, or alarm issues which can cause them to miss important appointments, simply because the operating system isn't working for them* and how they expect it to, then by all means they have every right to feel fed up.
Especially when you spend so much on a phone, these buggy experiences are all that more unpleasant to go through.
Everyone says it's just because we prefer fluidity but that doesn't affect my phone crashing and freezing up.
Just my little contribution to the thread, in my application, I use Core Image with a OpenGL context to render the image effects on the GPU. Since iOS 9, there's a bug where Core Image looses the GL context, that results framerate droping by half and CPU usage skyrocketing. Posted a bug report but they didn't even read it..
I don't have much knowledge of iOS internals, but it seems that they changed something in the graphics stack and it's affecting some users.
It's a shame that SO many fanboys like to be "problem deniers", even asking people to move to Android if they are complaining...
I don't have much knowledge of iOS internals, but it seems that they changed something in the graphics stack and it's affecting some users.
It's a shame that SO many fanboys like to be "problem deniers", even asking people to move to Android if they are complaining...
Uhm...that looks like a serious bug! Worth a phone call in my opinion...probably useless but...you never know
Thanks, at least someone who can state concrete proof that something is wrong with iOS 9 except "my phone works butter smooth".
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Forget 6 vs. 7 vs. 8 vs. 9.
Apple has a captive hardware lineup. There is no reason for the level of defects in iOS that we have been seeing unless Apple is short-changing the development team, changing the requirements last minute, or foregoing testing (and relying on public betas
). I wonder which one (or more) it is.I could see missing the one in a million thing or the infrequent "we missed what?!?" item. However the level of defects coming out and the fact we need until well into the life-span to get a solid stable version is pathetic.
If people's expectations are so low they are willing to accept crap like this ...
This reeks of an "I don't care" attitude from the top down. Pervasive.
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Ok... but with Android there's no need to update, the apps keep compatible with older versions. Instead with iOS you have to upgrade to use the latest versions of the apps...
It's commentary on reality that is related to the topic. How would anything from anyone here help the OP? How do any other replies from anyone else in this thread help the OP? At best only Apple might be able to help the OP in some potential way, but nothing and no one here can aside from simply commenting on the subject that has been brought up.
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Forget 6 vs. 7 vs. 8 vs. 9.
Apple has a captive hardware lineup. There is no reason for the level of defects in iOS that we have been seeing unless Apple is short-changing the development team, changing the requirements last minute, or foregoing testing (and relying on public betas
I could see missing the one in a million thing or the infrequent "we missed what?!?" item. However the level of defects coming out and the fact we need until well into the life-span to get a solid stable version is pathetic.
If people's expectations are so low they are willing to accept crap like this ...
This reeks of an "I don't care" attitude from the top down. Pervasive.
/end rant
"I don't care" attitude? Beta testers sending in bug reports obviously care. I think that's a broad brush you're painting with there.
If iOS 9 is more reliable here, then I'm pleased with what Apple is doing. I wasn't happy with iOS 8, because it was not reliable for me. Does iOS 9 need more work fluidity wise and do bugs need to be squashed? Yes. Is it an unusable mess? Not here.
There will never be an iteration of iOS that *everyone* will find to their liking. Folks will always find something they don't like. It's just the nature of the beast.
I am pleased and am not. It feels like I have traded in my 8.x defects for 9.x defects. Some things are better. Some things are worse. It is a never ending cycle of launch hypercare.
Just as a side note, overall, public beta programs are generally a placebo. Especially for software.
A placebo?
If the App Switcher is improved from 9.1 to 9.2 beta, on my 6+, that isn't placebo. It's called an improvement. It appears your suggesting that what folks are reporting are somehow not true, due to this placebo effect you've deemed as fact when testing betas.
I understand your frustration, but man you're reaching with the placebo thing.
A placebo?
If the App Switcher is improved from 9.1 to 9.2 beta, on my 6+, that isn't placebo. It's called an improvement. It appears your suggesting that what folks are reporting are somehow not true, due to this placebo effect you've deemed as fact when testing betas.
I understand your frustration, but man you're reaching with the placebo thing.
Public beta testing programs are typically a marketing tool designed to engender awareness amongst the more technically savvy crowd. This also lets them know what these folks tend to focus on and how it aligns to the general consumer. They can have some benefit on the technical side however primarily they don't. Most issue identification comes from private or lab testing.
If it is designed to heighten awareness and identify areas of focus, I'd call that more of a therapeutic effect vs. a real test. ie: placebo