iOS 9 is making me hate Apple

[sbailey4]

This is funny stuff here. My 6 plus and 6 NEVER choked on iOS 9. Hell my 6 plus is what this was posted on in real time, no lag.

If your phone is freezing or too slow, take it out of the freezer

Spoiler alert - your eyes can't see it.

Interesting response. So the problem is there but just cant "see it"? So why would it matter if its there then? Thats sorta kooky logic if I do say so. "I know you think your phone works fine but trust me it doesn't. You just cant see a problem with it."

 

[Cakefish]

Why don't you just change to Android?. You won't get updates and can't complain the "new" version of Android is slower.

Problem solved.

Unlocked, unbranded Android flagships do get updates. At a much slower rate than Nexus, but it does happen eventually. I'm expecting an update to Marshmallow for my Sony Z5 Compact, for example.

 

[thed0g]

Forget 6 vs. 7 vs. 8 vs. 9.
Apple has a captive hardware lineup. There is no reason for the level of defects in iOS that we have been seeing unless Apple is short-changing the development team, changing the requirements last minute, or foregoing testing (and relying on public betas ). I wonder which one (or more) it is.
I could see missing the one in a million thing or the infrequent "we missed what?!?" item. However the level of defects coming out and the fact we need until well into the life-span to get a solid stable version is pathetic.
If people's expectations are so low they are willing to accept crap like this ...
This reeks of an "I don't care" attitude from the top down. Pervasive.

/end rant

I agree and I'll add that the public beta is a mistake and waste of time.

They need to allocate more resources for reading problem reports now, while the quality of those reports is safe to say below the quality when a developer does it. Just see the amount of dumb posts like "how do I exit the public beta" across the web. It's literally ****ing stated on the same website how to exit the beta, but who reads nowadays right ?

Same mistake happened to Windows 10, where the public testing resulted in a pissing contest between which icons to use and color of the border of a window.

 

[CTHarrryH]

I have a 6S and it is the best performing and best battery life of any iPhone (starting with 3gs) that I've had. I have no stutter, no delay, no blurry.

I know I can stop reading all these threads, but I'm still waiting for someone who has all these issues to tell us what apps they run, etc. We know that Facebook had a battery eating issue - there maybe some other app or set of apps that cause some people to have horrible experience and others to have no problems. But so far, the complainers seem reluctant to share what they are running. Not saying that an OS shouldn't be able to handle heavy work load but anyone who has been involved with computer technology know that bad apps can kill anything.

 

[thed0g]

I have a 6S and it is the best performing and best battery life of any iPhone (starting with 3gs) that I've had. I have no stutter, no delay, no blurry.

I know I can stop reading all these threads, but I'm still waiting for someone who has all these issues to tell us what apps they run, etc. We know that Facebook had a battery eating issue - there maybe some other app or set of apps that cause some people to have horrible experience and others to have no problems. But so far, the complainers seem reluctant to share what they are running. Not saying that an OS shouldn't be able to handle heavy work load but anyone who has been involved with computer technology know that bad apps can kill anything.

It doesn't have anything to do with apps, it's the same on the clean phone. My nieces 5S on 8.1.2 with all her stuff from December 2014 is smoother then iOS 9. Stop looking for dumb excuses.

 

[johnhurley]

This is more of a hate time between iOS and watchOS. iOS 9 made my 6 plus slow to a halt. I used to think that having only a year old device wouldn't show any age but Apple sure showed other wise.

I now have a 6s plus and it too is slow with animations and such. Such a disgrace to have a month old phone already feel like a slug. We were promised with iOS 9 all these performance enhancements and such but yet iOS is here with lag, bugs, bugs that are worse after they patched them. Now I'm just stuck.

I was running 9.1 on an old ish 5s with 64b it worked fine for me.

Just upgraded to 6s plus with 128 gb and it's flying. No complaints for me moved my 5s backup into 6s plus and it's all good.

 

[scjr]

I have a 6S and it is the best performing and best battery life of any iPhone (starting with 3gs) that I've had. I have no stutter, no delay, no blurry.

But according to a few frustrated users, what you said is just not possible.

Stop making excuses that you're enjoying your iOS 9 experience and report that you're having issues right now.

 

[sunking101]

I agree and I'll add that the public beta is a mistake and waste of time.

They need to allocate more resources for reading problem reports now, while the quality of those reports is safe to say below the quality when a developer does it. Just see the amount of dumb posts like "how do I exit the public beta" across the web. It's literally ****ing stated on the same website how to exit the beta, but who reads nowadays right ?

Same mistake happened to Windows 10, where the public testing resulted in a pissing contest between which icons to use and color of the border of a window.

It would seem that Apple don't address any beta bug reports. Complete waste of time.
Why don't they just employ some heavy users to find their bugs?? People who live on their phones. Not to mention why the heck haven't they got a proper, dedicated in-house testing team. It amazes me the sheer number of obvious bugs that slip out of Cupertino on a regular basis. It's like nobody even gives the software a quick spin before releasing it, let alone an in-depth evaluation.

 

[Pspressart]

It would seem that Apple don't address any beta bug reports. Complete waste of time.
Why don't they just employ some heavy users to find their bugs?? People who live on their phones. Not to mention why the heck haven't they got a proper, dedicated in-house testing team. It amazes me the sheer number of obvious bugs that slip out of Cupertino on a regular basis. It's like nobody even gives the software a quick spin before releasing it, let alone an in-depth evaluation.

I am one of those public beta testers that you seem to despise. I am also a Windows person, so please do not hold that against me. I have submitted several bug reports based on my usage of the software on my iPhone and iPad. I received responses to all the reports and the issues have been corrected.
You ask why they don't just employ some heavy users to find their bugs. Perhaps it is because the operating system and built in apps are used in a wide variety of ways that a relatively small number of users may not think about. In a former career I used to develop software. One of the best ways for me to write good programs was to ask a person to use it and watch the results. I learned a lot by looking at the program from a user's eyes, rather than a developer's eyes.

 

[Armen]

Unlocked, unbranded Android flagships do get updates. At a much slower rate than Nexus, but it does happen eventually. I'm expecting an update to Marshmallow for my Sony Z5 Compact, for example.

I always hated how Carriers or manufacturers always had the final word as to when an update was released.

 

[Armen]

Ok... but with Android there's no need to update, the apps keep compatible with older versions. Instead with iOS you have to upgrade to use the latest versions of the apps...

This I agree with. I don't like that the native apps are all baked and can't be updated unless the OS is updated.

 

[Armen]

I think I prefer a rock over Samsung's Android offerings. Hoping it doesn't come to this though.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Samsung phones myself. I do like their refrigerators and TV's though

 

[Max(IT)]

Neither can any of them, this is a BS problem 99% of people don't have but this one wants us to believe it's a persistent issue across devices less than two years old plus the current flagships.

Correct.

Actually for many people it is:

iOS 3 sucks and iOS2 was better
iOS 4 sucks and iOS3 was better
iOS 5 sucks and iOS4 was better
iOS 6 sucks and iOS5 was better
iOS 7 sucks and iOS6 was better
iOS 8 sucks and iOS7 was better
iOS 9 sucks and iOS8 was better

People naturally have selective memory. Most remember the good while only currently seeing the bad. Also most people WANT change until they get it and then they hate the changes.

Human nature 101

It's not selective memory.
It's because when people said so, they were comparing iOS 9.0 with iOS 8.4.1, iOS 8.0 with iOS 7.1.2, iOS 7.0 with iOS 6.1.4. You get the idea - Comparing a new, not-fully-optimized or relatively-bug-free version of iOS to a previous version of iOS that received a year of fixes and small enhancements.

And also, iOS is indeed getting more and more clunky year-by-year.
More features = Bigger system partition size + More RAM and CPU usage.
Focus on New Features = Neglected old features and weird bugs by interference.
Skyrocketing CPU and GPU power in development units (next-gen hardware) + Engineers' unwillingness to personally test new OS on older hardware = Lack of optimization.

That's part of the problem, but not only that.
This kind of threads are typical, and almost a prerogative, of Apple based discussion forums.
Unreasonable expectations are the normality here, with people whining about a few animation drops or wanting 4-5 years old devices (!!!) to run the latest iOS flawlessly.

See I would be okay if it was just lag but my 6s Plus is crashing about twice a day. This morning my alarm didn't go off because my phone was off. Glad my Apple Watch is still reliable to have alarms.

Still have to see A SINGLE CRASH on any of my iDevices since iOS 8. Yes, I said iOS 8.
The only iOS version I had a few crashes due to poor memory management was iOS 7.
And I'm using quite extensively a lot of devices....

But according to a few frustrated users, what you said is just not possible.

Stop making excuses that you're enjoying your iOS 9 experience and report that you're having issues right now.

Correct. You are not even entitled to post on this forum if you are not a whiner complaining for some non existent issue....

 

[uhaas]

Public beta testing programs are typically a marketing tool designed to engender awareness amongst the more technically savvy crowd. This also lets them know what these folks tend to focus on and how it aligns to the general consumer. They can have some benefit on the technical side however primarily they don't. Most issue identification comes from private or lab testing.

If it is designed to heighten awareness and identify areas of focus, I'd call that more of a therapeutic effect vs. a real test. ie: placebo

The real benefit it not reliving Exchange-gate, where they released iOS 7 (if that was the right release), and it didn't work for corporate users at all. Phones were being denied Exchange access. The betas opens up testing to a wider world of primary use cases to avoid major mistakes like that from reoccurring.

 

[dk001]

I have a 6S and it is the best performing and best battery life of any iPhone (starting with 3gs) that I've had. I have no stutter, no delay, no blurry.

I know I can stop reading all these threads, but I'm still waiting for someone who has all these issues to tell us what apps they run, etc. We know that Facebook had a battery eating issue - there maybe some other app or set of apps that cause some people to have horrible experience and others to have no problems. But so far, the complainers seem reluctant to share what they are running. Not saying that an OS shouldn't be able to handle heavy work load but anyone who has been involved with computer technology know that bad apps can kill anything.

Okay CTH ... you asked for it.
I've owned and used Iphone 3, 3GS, 4, 5, 5S, 6+, 6S+ all on AT&T
Current device is a 6S+ 64GB Space Grey on AT&T (unlocked)
Apps other than stock:
Google Maps, BeWeather, Amazon Music, GMail, Kindle, Dropbox, Drive, OneDrive, Box, FF4, FF7, SoM, Wickr, Hurricane, SystemMonitor, Mother of All Battles, Google, Google Maps, Google Claendar, Googel News, YouTube, Play Movies, GooglePhotos, Docs, Sheets, Slides, Analytics, Translate, gTasks Pro, PDF Forms, Scanner Pro, Hangouts, Google Wallet, Google Voice, PlayBooks, Google Earth, myATT, Chase, Esurance, Netflix, TWC TV, My TWC, Best buy, United, Drafts, PhotoMath, Holidays, Scanner, Purify, Words, Freecell, KaW, TowerDefender, Skulls, uniWar, Oceanhorn, Workday, Agent, IT Mobility, Play Music, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Office Lens, One Note, HP ePrint, Spell Check, WebEx, LinkedIn, Twitter, Google+, Palringo, FlipBoard, SpeedTest, VLC, SciPro Calc, Audobon Birds, TextExtractor, Shazam.

Biggest issues on my iPhone for me:
Lag, Stutter, Icon not always registering a touch when close/open, App crash, Safari tabs that will go blank, System memory resets, random 48 hour password popup (I use this phone daily), Mail load errors and fail to send.

You are right. For what I have on this device and the predominate use is work / music, there is no reason I should be seeing the issues I am.

 

[sbailey4]

It would seem that Apple don't address any beta bug reports. Complete waste of time.
Why don't they just employ some heavy users to find their bugs?? People who live on their phones. Not to mention why the heck haven't they got a proper, dedicated in-house testing team. It amazes me the sheer number of obvious bugs that slip out of Cupertino on a regular basis. It's like nobody even gives the software a quick spin before releasing it, let alone an in-depth evaluation.

Well that's not true. I have received responses to bug reports I have submitted and have seen others report they have as well. A few have been addressed and resolved, of recent the contacts search bug when using groups. Both responded to and resolved in 9.2 b2.

 

[sunking101]

Well that's not true. I have received responses to bug reports I have submitted and have seen others report they have as well. A few have been addressed and resolved, of recent the contacts search bug when using groups. Both responded to and resolved in 9.2 b2.

Fair enough then. I just read about people reporting bugs and the bugs still being present in the general release.

 

[I7guy]

Fair enough then. I just read about people reporting bugs and the bugs still being present in the general release.

I would think there are some "bugs" where resolution gets deferred or filed in the circular file.

 

[Radon87000]

I have a 6S and it is the best performing and best battery life of any iPhone (starting with 3gs) that I've had. I have no stutter, no delay, no blurry.

I know I can stop reading all these threads, but I'm still waiting for someone who has all these issues to tell us what apps they run, etc. We know that Facebook had a battery eating issue - there maybe some other app or set of apps that cause some people to have horrible experience and others to have no problems. But so far, the complainers seem reluctant to share what they are running. Not saying that an OS shouldn't be able to handle heavy work load but anyone who has been involved with computer technology know that bad apps can kill anything.

A clean install iPhone 6 and it has stuttering

But according to a few frustrated users, what you said is just not possible.

Stop making excuses that you're enjoying your iOS 9 experience and report that you're having issues right now.

How anti consumerist can you get?Its a fact these devices are stuttering.Even a GS6 owner can notice it.Classic case of extreme fanboyism and mockery of facts

 

[sunking101]

A clean install iPhone 6 and it has stuttering



How anti consumerist can you get?Its a fact these devices are stuttering.Even a GS6 owner can notice it.Classic case of extreme fanboyism and mockery of facts

I've had two 6S+ stuttering out of the box. No apps installed, no backup, nothing. I fixed it but really, you can't blame any user error if they're like that out of the box.

 

[GadgetBen]

Is anyone else finding that Watch OS 2 native apps don't make a difference with loading times? I'm still frustrated with loading times.

I have Dark Sky which pretty much launched native on launch day of Watch OS 2. Yet I can still count down 10 seconds before the weather screen loads on my watch from the complication on my watch home screen.

 

[scjr]

How anti consumerist can you get?Its a fact these devices are stuttering.Even a GS6 owner can notice it.Classic case of extreme fanboyism and mockery of facts

His experience is that he's experiencing nothing you're experiencing. Explain how this is anti-anything?

You're a funny guy.

 

[sbailey4]

Fair enough then. I just read about people reporting bugs and the bugs still being present in the general release.

It seems as though Apple is doing a much better job since iOS 9.1 PB's in actually listening and fixing the bugs that are reported. Hopefully that trend will continue!

 

[CTHarrryH]

It doesn't have anything to do with apps, it's the same on the clean phone. My nieces 5S on 8.1.2 with all her stuff from December 2014 is smoother then iOS 9. Stop looking for dumb excuses.

Dumb excuses for dumb posters - how do you know it has nothing to do with apps? Clean has nothing to do with what you are running. Since many of us are not having the problems at all - it has to be apps or setup.
Why don't you take your dump post and leave Apple and go elsewhere - maybe there people won't even try and help you.

 

[eyeseeyou]

This is more of a hate time between iOS and watchOS. iOS 9 made my 6 plus slow to a halt. I used to think that having only a year old device wouldn't show any age but Apple sure showed other wise.

I now have a 6s plus and it too is slow with animations and such. Such a disgrace to have a month old phone already feel like a slug. We were promised with iOS 9 all these performance enhancements and such but yet iOS is here with lag, bugs, bugs that are worse after they patched them. Now I'm just stuck.

Another point here is watchOS. When I got my Apple Watch it felt fast enough. I had to wait for certain things but never too long. watchOS 2 comes along and the polish is gone. I think something didn't tap and it tapped twice and the UI switches twice after it catches up. It being a first gen product is not an excuse.

I now sit here on the fallen hopes iOS 9.2 beta where nothing is still fixed and more is broken. Same bugs reported still not fixed and same ones "fixed" are back.

TL;Dr I feel let down for paying this much for a quality experience but feel like I'm experiencing android 2.0


Edit: On another note, El Capitan has really improved my performance so kudos there.

Hmm beta 9.2 actually restored my 6 plus back to buttery smoothness even with animations on