Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I have gotten used to the slight lagginess on my 5S. Sometimes I feel it's gone until I use my gf's 5S on iOS 8. Definitely room for improvement in my opinion.
 
Dumb excuses for dumb posters - how do you know it has nothing to do with apps? Clean has nothing to do with what you are running. Since many of us are not having the problems at all - it has to be apps or setup.
Why don't you take your dump post and leave Apple and go elsewhere - maybe there people won't even try and help you.

Trouble is the Apple Store display iPads all show the same behaviour. All of them. And the frame drops happen with stock Apple apps, not just third party apps. Also the OS GUI animations themselves; the OS at its core experiences frame drops in animations. Lastly, iOS freezes apps when they are in the background by design, freeing up resources for the foreground app, meaning they shouldn't be able to affect overall performance of the OS unless something has gone very wrong.
 
I don't understand. I used iOS 9 public beta on my old iPhone 6 plus and it was fine. Yet when it was release to the public some people complain. Now that I use iPhone 6S plus the software is still fine. and yet some people complain. what's the deal?
 
I don't understand. I used iOS 9 public beta on my old iPhone 6 plus and it was fine. Yet when it was release to the public some people complain. Now that I use iPhone 6S plus the software is still fine. and yet some people complain. what's the deal?
So you don't notice any lag or stutters whatsoever?
 
I am not sure about the 6 plus, but for 6s (which I owned), definitely it only UI slowness, not CPU whatsoever.
If you jailbreak you can tune the UI parameters via some tweaks.

This is more of a hate time between iOS and watchOS. iOS 9 made my 6 plus slow to a halt. I used to think that having only a year old device wouldn't show any age but Apple sure showed other wise.

I now have a 6s plus and it too is slow with animations and such. Such a disgrace to have a month old phone already feel like a slug. We were promised with iOS 9 all these performance enhancements and such but yet iOS is here with lag, bugs, bugs that are worse after they patched them. Now I'm just stuck.

Another point here is watchOS. When I got my Apple Watch it felt fast enough. I had to wait for certain things but never too long. watchOS 2 comes along and the polish is gone. I think something didn't tap and it tapped twice and the UI switches twice after it catches up. It being a first gen product is not an excuse.

I now sit here on the fallen hopes iOS 9.2 beta where nothing is still fixed and more is broken. Same bugs reported still not fixed and same ones "fixed" are back.

TL;Dr I feel let down for paying this much for a quality experience but feel like I'm experiencing android 2.0


Edit: On another note, El Capitan has really improved my performance so kudos there.
 
I don't understand. I used iOS 9 public beta on my old iPhone 6 plus and it was fine. Yet when it was release to the public some people complain. Now that I use iPhone 6S plus the software is still fine. and yet some people complain. what's the deal?
The deal is that you don't see the stuttering and frame drops, because all betas from June had the same behaviour.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TC03
I used to be a apple Fanboy. However, iOS 7 had changed that. over the 2 years leading up to now, I've had my period of good times and bad times.

Now, I think I've come up with my deciosion. Apple is a great company and, it has innovation. However, it no longer possesses that special feeling I like about it. Take my 4S for example, it still has iOS 6. The phone has life to it. The UI, the response time, and, the engineering behind how it's quicker than it's iOS 9 equivalent (I'm still wanting to do a video comparing the two together but, I reached a setback that should be resolved by next year.)

I used to be obsessed with Apple, and, now I see it's decline through each software version. With iOS 9 alone, it had innovation but, this year as a whole, Apple has been playing it's same tricks as always. The IPod Touch 6th gen is released and, right off the bat, it's outdated without a fingerprint sensor. iOS 8.4 introduced apple music that "it makes it harder to listen to the stuff I actually own!" through the music app. Finally, more bloatware is introduced and, still a 16GB phone! I got stuck with one last upgrade cycle because, parents insisted we buy one through the AT&T store instead of amazon. They only had in stock 16gb and, it's been to small for me ever since.

Overall, Apple has innovation (iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, etc) but, I've lost hope. The new UI is not going to change any time soon and, a barely get by through custom icon shortcuts (unjailbroken) My next phone is going to be a V10 for the next 4-5 years and, my next tablet may not even be a Apple one if they continue in there current direction (already buying a old iPad 2 (64GB) just to jailbreak it to downgrade to iOS 6:D)!
I completely agree with everything you said and I feel exactly the same way you feel. I used to be a huge Apple fanboy as well, I would always be excited for whatever new products they'd be launching and I couldn't wait to get my hands on them. I couldn't imagine using anything other than Apple. But iOS 7 was also the turning point for me as I too, started to see the decline of their software quality since Cook made the idiotic decision to fire Scott Forstall. Jony Ive and his design team continue to produce top-notch hardware designs for the products, but they couldn't be more incompetent and clueless when it comes to UI design and Craig Federighi seems like a good guy, but absolutely terrible about managing software engineering.

When iOS 7 came out, Apple lost its magic and uniqueness and overall fun factor. The hardware remained as beautiful as always but the software just became so ugly inside and out that it was getting a lot harder to love the iPhone and iPad. iOS 8 wasn't much better but I held onto hope that maybe things would be improved and refined but they haven't, in fact it got worse when iOS 8.4 was released with the god-awful POS music player and honestly that was probably the final straw. One of the things that initially attracted me to the iPhone (along with everyone else) was that you could use your iPhone as an iPod with an interface that was just as attractive and enjoyable to use as an actual iPod. iOS 8.4 changed that, instead we have an app with a bunch of terrible UI decisions, terrible performance and my personal music collection takes a backseat to a streaming service I will never use and radio features that could easily inhabit a separate app.

Seeing as the competition isn't any better, I still went forward with my decision to get rid of my iPhone 6 and replaced it with a standard flip phone (cheaper phone bill yay!!!!) and I'm currently in the process of trying to score an iPod classic to properly store and listen to my music.

Seeing as iOS as a whole isn't gonna improve anytime soon, it looks like the iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone (unless Apple decides to get their act together) and I also abandoned my plan to get an iPad. I will remain a Mac user as that is probably the one platform Apple has kept mostly intact and not completely screwed up yet.

It makes me sad, as an Apple fan to see them decline in quality like this and Tim Cook only seems to care about profits and earnings unlike Steve Jobs who actually care about the products and was more involved in the process than Cook ever was. I guess it was inevitable that Apple would lose its magic and charm under Cook and it has been the most apparent with the appalling direction iOS has been taking along with several questionable new products like the iPad Pro/Apple Pencil. I'm very disappointed with Apple and it's honestly getting harder to defend them and root for them in the same way that I used to.
 
Thanks for telling what my eyes see.
Not a problem. If there's a certain amount of people who do see it and they prove it in a 60 fps video, then I don't know why you don't. But there has always been people claiming that 30 fps and 60 fps are the same, so I don't doubt that people like this exist. Not sure if it's the eyes or self-rationalization, but I'll leave that up to the individual.
 
I completely agree with everything you said and I feel exactly the same way you feel. I used to be a huge Apple fanboy as well, I would always be excited for whatever new products they'd be launching and I couldn't wait to get my hands on them. I couldn't imagine using anything other than Apple. But iOS 7 was also the turning point for me as I too, started to see the decline of their software quality since Cook made the idiotic decision to fire Scott Forstall. Jony Ive and his design team continue to produce top-notch hardware designs for the products, but they couldn't be more incompetent and clueless when it comes to UI design and Craig Federighi seems like a good guy, but absolutely terrible about managing software engineering.

When iOS 7 came out, Apple lost its magic and uniqueness and overall fun factor. The hardware remained as beautiful as always but the software just became so ugly inside and out that it was getting a lot harder to love the iPhone and iPad. iOS 8 wasn't much better but I held onto hope that maybe things would be improved and refined but they haven't, in fact it got worse when iOS 8.4 was released with the god-awful POS music player and honestly that was probably the final straw. One of the things that initially attracted me to the iPhone (along with everyone else) was that you could use your iPhone as an iPod with an interface that was just as attractive and enjoyable to use as an actual iPod. iOS 8.4 changed that, instead we have an app with a bunch of terrible UI decisions, terrible performance and my personal music collection takes a backseat to a streaming service I will never use and radio features that could easily inhabit a separate app.

Seeing as the competition isn't any better, I still went forward with my decision to get rid of my iPhone 6 and replaced it with a standard flip phone (cheaper phone bill yay!!!!) and I'm currently in the process of trying to score an iPod classic to properly store and listen to my music.

Seeing as iOS as a whole isn't gonna improve anytime soon, it looks like the iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone (unless Apple decides to get their act together) and I also abandoned my plan to get an iPad. I will remain a Mac user as that is probably the one platform Apple has kept mostly intact and not completely screwed up yet.

It makes me sad, as an Apple fan to see them decline in quality like this and Tim Cook only seems to care about profits and earnings unlike Steve Jobs who actually care about the products and was more involved in the process than Cook ever was. I guess it was inevitable that Apple would lose its magic and charm under Cook and it has been the most apparent with the appalling direction iOS has been taking along with several questionable new products like the iPad Pro/Apple Pencil. I'm very disappointed with Apple and it's honestly getting harder to defend them and root for them in the same way that I used to.
I buy iPhones because I like the product, support and service. Their financials are reflective of the reality of the 2015 marketplace. I'm not emotionally invested in the company to even begin to relate to this post, and thankfully the company embarked on the iOS 7 journey.
 
  • Like
Reactions: appledefenceforce
I switched to iphone from nexus phones for quality and solid hardware. But now i am tired of bugs in ios.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dk001
That's interesting, because for me iOS 9 has been the best OS so far. I have 6S plus and I don't see any chokes or lags at all. On 6 plus however I noticed minor lags.
 
  • Like
Reactions: eyeseeyou
I buy iPhones because I like the product, support and service. Their financials are reflective of the reality of the 2015 marketplace. I'm not emotionally invested in the company to even begin to relate to this post, and thankfully the company embarked on the iOS 7 journey.

It's nice to read a post that has actual perspective here. Too many people are FAR too concerned with products that aren't meant for their needs. No company will EVER possibly put out products that will fit everyone's need at every single time.

Right now I'm loving my iPad Air 2. Maybe down the road I'll replace it with a later model iPad Pro. Right now it isn't a product that would meet my needs...and I'm actually being calm and am OK with it.
 
Personally, I feel Apple needs some new blood in both the design and quality areas. Get the current crop to move on. Let's get a fresh set of eyes and thoughts on this. Bring back the polish.
The iPhone, the iPad, and iOS no longer fill me with a feeling of looking forward to the "next great thing". Instead I am finding myself more and more looking at them with a sense of "Nice/desire" on one hand and a feeling "dread/what else is broken" on the other.
The "shiny" has worn off.
 
Personally, I feel Apple needs some new blood in both the design and quality areas. Get the current crop to move on. Let's get a fresh set of eyes and thoughts on this. Bring back the polish.
The iPhone, the iPad, and iOS no longer fill me with a feeling of looking forward to the "next great thing". Instead I am finding myself more and more looking at them with a sense of "Nice/desire" on one hand and a feeling "dread/what else is broken" on the other.
The "shiny" has worn off.
Apple at this point just lets their brand and lack of carrier interference do the talking.The OS itself isn't any better than Android at this point
 
Has anyone noticed that this year with iOS 9, complaints regarding Safari have gone down to almost zero?

I admit that they have actually improved Safari in iOS 9.

Currently my only 2 big problems with iOS 9 are

1. UI stutter (Apple MUST fix this else or get compared to Android)

2. The aweful music app. (Apple must make it smooth and stutter free. They also need to change the UI completely so that people who transfer their own mp3 files to their iDevices are not made to feel like terrorists. We just don't like to play music via music subscription) If Apple is that desperate, I dare them to drop mp3 support from next iOS update. They must also introduce 8 GB model only and discontinue all other capacity models while they are at it. Then it would be streaming and cloud computing Nirvana! Do they have the balls to do this if they are that desperate to promote their streaming music service?

iOS feels like it has lost it's soul.
 
Last edited:
This is more of a hate time between iOS and watchOS. iOS 9 made my 6 plus slow to a halt. I used to think that having only a year old device wouldn't show any age but Apple sure showed other wise.

I now have a 6s plus and it too is slow with animations and such. Such a disgrace to have a month old phone already feel like a slug. We were promised with iOS 9 all these performance enhancements and such but yet iOS is here with lag, bugs, bugs that are worse after they patched them. Now I'm just stuck.

Another point here is watchOS. When I got my Apple Watch it felt fast enough. I had to wait for certain things but never too long. watchOS 2 comes along and the polish is gone. I think something didn't tap and it tapped twice and the UI switches twice after it catches up. It being a first gen product is not an excuse.

I now sit here on the fallen hopes iOS 9.2 beta where nothing is still fixed and more is broken. Same bugs reported still not fixed and same ones "fixed" are back.

TL;Dr I feel let down for paying this much for a quality experience but feel like I'm experiencing android 2.0


Edit: On another note, El Capitan has really improved my performance so kudos there.

Can yo pleas post a video? There is either something wrong with your iPhone or you are exaggerating... I want to compare it to mine.
 
The nostalgia is hilarious. Just do a forum search. People have been saying the same thing since I joined this site.
If good software engineering and quality UI design are considered to be nostalgic, then I'm proud to be nostalgic of a time when Apple had top-notch software to match its (still) amazing hardware!
 
My two pence:
I am quite disappointed with IOS9 on my iPhone6. On IOS8 it worked fine, but curiosity got the better of me and thinking that with a phone that is less than one year old, there should not be any worries. I did some research if I should update my 4S and decided against it but never even asked myself any questions with the 6.

Well, I was wrong and I regret. It stutters quite often and I find this seriously irritating. Secondly it seems to eat a lot more mobile data and I am yet to find out why (I have turned off the 'wifi support'). I am luckily on a generous data plan (but not unlimited), but it annoys me. Overall not good, I hope 9.x will solve all of this. Or does Apple try to force me into an update to the 6S (which I otherwise have absolutely no intention to!)?
 
  • Like
Reactions: dk001
My two pence:
I am quite disappointed with IOS9 on my iPhone6. On IOS8 it worked fine, but curiosity got the better of me and thinking that with a phone that is less than one year old, there should not be any worries. I did some research if I should update my 4S and decided against it but never even asked myself any questions with the 6.

Well, I was wrong and I regret. It stutters quite often and I find this seriously irritating. Secondly it seems to eat a lot more mobile data and I am yet to find out why (I have turned off the 'wifi support'). I am luckily on a generous data plan (but not unlimited), but it annoys me. Overall not good, I hope 9.x will solve all of this. Or does Apple try to force me into an update to the 6S (which I otherwise have absolutely no intention to!)?
Sadly they want you to upgrade to 6S.The 6 is an unwanted child now because 6S is not much of a upgrade over it and Apple wants record sales
 
Sadly they want you to upgrade to 6S.The 6 is an unwanted child now because 6S is not much of a upgrade over it and Apple wants record sales
That's very much what it looks like indeed. But I normally do not react well when somebody tries to force me into something... I do not give all hope up - yet.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.