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Is iOS 9 smoother (animation stutters) than iOS8?

  • Yes, but I didn't notice any smoothness problems with iOS 8.

    Votes: 33 12.9%
  • No, but I didn't notice any smoothness problems with iOS 8.

    Votes: 33 12.9%
  • Yes iOS 9 is smoother, I did notice smoothness problems with iOS 8.

    Votes: 31 12.1%
  • No iOS 9 is not smoother, I did notice smoothness problems with iOS 8.

    Votes: 31 12.1%
  • Yes iOS 9 is smoother, but not by much, I did notice smoothness problems with iOS 8.

    Votes: 23 9.0%
  • No, iOS 9 smoothness is worse iOS 8.

    Votes: 105 41.0%

  • Total voters
    256

KALLT

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Sep 23, 2008
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I agree it’s not really smooth yet. Even some relatively simple apps have occasional stutters and hickups. I personally haven’t noticed any improvements in battery life either and I have been using the energy saving feature whenever it popped up (at 20%). Spotlight in particular always seems to stutter when I open it, as well as when I swipe from left to right between panels within an app (this is the first thing I noticed when I upgraded and it still hasn’t improved). Music is the app I have the most qualms with, it has never been this bad. It is stuttery when scrolling through longs lists of artists and overall I just really dislike this deferred loading of the artist backgrounds and coloured themes when you view an artist page.

Does anyone know how much of the Music app is now a web view? It reminds me so much of the Facebook app before they went completely native and ditched many HTML5 web views. Music feels like this, like it’s constantly loading small webpages to show you the streaming and store content.
 
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Dreamliner330

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For the normal user login with your Apple ID. Then use the category, write good details e.g for reproduce etc..

https://bugreport.apple.com/
As if Apple cares....

There still is no way to add a currently playing song to an "on-the-go" playlist without digging through your entire library. On the iPod Classic all you had to do was touch and hold the center button and whatever you were currently listening to automatically went to your playlist.

A super simple, obvious feature gone since touch.

If Jony Ive and co. don't notice a problem, they're not gonna fix it.
 

FatPuppy

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I am extremely hopeful that this is the case. I don't know how you can just "enable" something like this though, if that were the case, Metal would have been adopted MUCH faster and on a much larger scale with developers. Doesn't it require rewriting and such? Maybe Apple hasn't put in Metal yet because they tried it "behind the scenes" during testing and it caused a lot of issues like tons of graphical artifacts and such due to graphics being handled differently, so for now they're ironing out those things before they fully implement it when iOS 9 goes public. One can only hope I guess, I highly doubt all of that.

All I know is that control center on my 6 dips into 40-50 fps where it is perfectly fine at 60 fps on an iPhone 5 running iOS 8. The frame drops really don't occur until the end of the animation, where the "bounce" effect occurs. Little jitters occur at other totally random places, like opening and closing apps, entering and exiting the app switcher, scrolling through the app switcher, etc. If this isn't fixed by GM I'm going to be very disappointed. Also would love to see the app switcher be fully smooth on all devices, like it was iOS 8 and earlier. My iPad mini 2 drops into 20 fps when entering and exiting the switcher or closing apps in the switcher. Scrolling is *okay* but it does stutter some, especially near the "home screen card." Control center and Notification Center stutter when used over the app switcher as well, happens on iPhone 6, too.
This is my experience with my 5s, identical, if this happens on an iphone 6 than we should pin this post somewhere.
 

Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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It's just a placebo, Apple said that ios 9 will be faster and now you see it that way. Or, your ios 8 was buggy and needed a restore.
So, just take it that my iOS 8 was buggy and iOS 9 beta fixed that?

Either way, I can't deny that my phone is running more smoothly than usual (shame about the shorter battery life though), and it is noticeable to me.
 

FatPuppy

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So, just take it that my iOS 8 was buggy and iOS 9 beta fixed that?

Either way, I can't deny that my phone is running more smoothly than usual (shame about the shorter battery life though), and it is noticeable to me.
Yeah, maybe ios 8 was buggy on your phone but try and restore back to ios 8 with no backups, no nothing and use it for a few minutes and see how much better it is than ios 9.
 

Abazigal

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Yeah, maybe ios 8 was buggy on your phone but try and restore back to ios 8 with no backups, no nothing and use it for a few minutes and see how much better it is than ios 9.
I have restored iOS 8 a couple of times prior to the iOS beta already, so I believe my phone was as fast as it got. Not that I felt that iOS 8 is slow, but as I said, I can definitely notice and appreciate the improved smoothness in my device. Even the keyboard feels less laggy when typing.

And why should I restore with no backups? The point is precisely that I have access to all my data, including iMessage and whatsapp chat backups. And iOS 9 does make the backing and restoring process that much faster as well. It just backs up data from my apps, so after restoring, I can download them straight away.

You seem to have some difficulty accepting what I am saying here. Is there some problem you are having with me or with own personal experience?
 

Salvor Hardin

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A little off topic but has anyone noticed that if you just leave Siri sitting there, waiting for you to tap the icon to activate it, the blurred background animates/colours change?

Hadn't noticed it until tonight on my 6.
Something similar happens with spotlight in 8. I think it might be switching the blurring effect to a simple snapshot of it so the GPU can rest.
 

FatPuppy

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You seem to have some difficulty accepting what I am saying here. Is there some problem you are having with me or with own personal experience?

Yes, i compared both ios 8 and 9 on a stock iphone 5s with no backups, no apps, fully empty and ios 9 sucks really bad, it is laggy as hell
 

Abazigal

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Yes, i compared both ios 8 and 9 on a stock iphone 5s with no backups, no apps, fully empty and ios 9 sucks really bad, it is laggy as hell
Then maybe it's just you? Though for me, I always restore from a backup, so this is me speaking with a backup and tons of apps running. No issues from a performance standpoint.

I am reporting poorer battery life while other people here are claiming that battery life on their iPhones has improved. So different users are apparently going to get differing experiences due to the divergent nature of our devices. I will restore my iPhone one more time when the final version of iOS 9 releases, but not before (simply don't have the time for it).
 
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Stickharuhi

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As if Apple cares....

There still is no way to add a currently playing song to an "on-the-go" playlist without digging through your entire library. On the iPod Classic all you had to do was touch and hold the center button and whatever you were currently listening to automatically went to your playlist.

A super simple, obvious feature gone since touch.

If Jony Ive and co. don't notice a problem, they're not gonna fix it.

This is not bug report ;)

You must use category feature
 

JXShine

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Jun 11, 2015
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That is exactly what apple wants you to do.
Exactly
My iPad Air was so smooth on iOS 7 and it turned to absolute garbage on iOS 8. Safari became unusable. System animations lag everywhere (despite the fact that iOS 7 and 8 have literally the same blur and animations)

I didn't believe it when people said apple intentionally slows down older devices with new software. Now I do.
 

QuarterSwede

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Oct 1, 2005
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As if Apple cares....

There still is no way to add a currently playing song to an "on-the-go" playlist without digging through your entire library. On the iPod Classic all you had to do was touch and hold the center button and whatever you were currently listening to automatically went to your playlist.

A super simple, obvious feature gone since touch.

If Jony Ive and co. don't notice a problem, they're not gonna fix it.
That's not true. I've submitted 20 bug reports and all but 2 have been fixed in the latest PB.
 

QuarterSwede

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Exactly
My iPad Air was so smooth on iOS 7 and it turned to absolute garbage on iOS 8. Safari became unusable. System animations lag everywhere (despite the fact that iOS 7 and 8 have literally the same blur and animations)

I didn't believe it when people said apple intentionally slows down older devices with new software. Now I do.
And I had the opposite experience. iOS 7 was laggy and iOS 8 wasn't. 9 is even better for me for the most part. And fixes some major issues 8.4 had with the Plus (camera crashing constantly, memory issues galore).
 

JXShine

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And I had the opposite experience. iOS 7 was laggy and iOS 8 wasn't. 9 is even better for me for the most part. And fixes some major issues 8.4 had with the Plus (camera crashing constantly, memory issues galore).
Cool story bro. Either you are making things up or you just don't use your phone enough. Your experience obviously runs contrary to what most of us have experienced. Just look at the above poll
 
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newellj

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Cool story bro. Either you are making things up or you just don't use your phone enough. Your experience obviously runs contrary to what most of us have experienced. Just look at the above poll

Unless, of course, you're just making things up. My Air 1 ran the same on iOS 8.x as it did on 7.x. So, between QuarterSwede, you and me we've got three different experiences with the Air.
 
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AugustineNg

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Resetting the settings without erasing everything of the device which was directly upgraded from iOS8 can help to solve the smoothness problem in iOS9. For who are using Apple Watches should repair their watches because in my case the phone could not associate with the watch anymore before repairing.
 

saudor

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Making things up?

On my iPad 2 iOS 9 runs better than iOS 8 and 7.1.2. (And I love the new keyboard layout)

The 2 and the 3 get performance enhancements. The air series get parts of multi tasking. I think everything pretty much stays the same for the iPad 4 users - maybe new APIs
 

QuarterSwede

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Oct 1, 2005
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Cool story bro. Either you are making things up or you just don't use your phone enough. Your experience obviously runs contrary to what most of us have experienced. Just look at the above poll
I've had fresh installs work far worse than upgrades. My wife's perfectly working install has run contrary to what I experienced on the same hardware model and OS.

My point: Experience means squat when it comes to iOS.
 

iTom17

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On a scale of 1-10 for smoothness with 10 being very smooth and 1 being not smooth at all:

iOS 8.4.1: 10
iOS 9 beta 5: 8
Funny, because it feels the exact opposite on my iPhone 6. So an 10 for smoothness on iOS 9 beta 5, 8 for smoothness on iOS 8.3 (haven't been on iOS 8.4 or 8.4.1 at all). :p

Seriously, iOS 9 beta 5 is by far the smoothest iOS release I've ever have used. It's strange that quite a lot people don't seem to have this. I think, if Apple doesn't ruin it, iOS 9 will be the most stable version ever. For me, it already is. Of course, it's not perfect. It crashes sometimes, but that's caused by third-party apps that have yet to officially support iOS 9. And both Control Center and Notification Center animation are a little laggy on the lockscreen. But overall, it's definitely an improvement over iOS 8.

Again, I hope Apple doesn't mess it up. My iPhone 6 is incredibly smooth now, and I'm not going to lose that (despite the fact that I'm going to upgrade to iPhone 6s). :p
 
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nordique

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Making things up?

On my iPad 2 iOS 9 runs better than iOS 8 and 7.1.2. (And I love the new keyboard layout)

I can mostly echo this: On my 4s, iOs 9 beta runs better than iOS 8. Not better than iOS 7 for me though. (I also love the new keyboard and font)

the disparities in everyone's experience with this beta so far is interesting
 

imagineadam

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The biggest thing about the beta so far that has bugged me is the simple half second to almost a full second of lag when you touch and app and have it react and open. In iOS 7 things happened imediately every time. When I first used 8 every once and awhile there is a little hesitation when opening apps or just hitting the home button to leave and app. Enter iOS 9 and the responsiveness has been even worse. It did get a little better in each beta but it's still not up to par with the current iOS 8. They are touting the increase in speed and performance and it just truly isn't there yet. I'm really excited about the public release and I'm hoping that the beta has just been getting the groundwork laid out and everything functioning correctly and that these past few weeks they have been optimizing the code for true maximum performance. I'm going to be really bummed out if my iPhone 6 runs slower after the update! I hope they can somehow make it use less ram than iOS 8 so more apps can hang in the background too or a tab or 2 more in safari but I'm not holding my breath. I hope it's at least the same for that as it is now which is good enough for me. I'm still a little bothered by the new font though. It just looks weird.
 

hounslowfish

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Oct 2, 2013
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Public beta 3 is slickly smooth for me. It's the most complete and stable Apple beta I have *ever* tried. And I've been running betas for a long long time.
 
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