I didn't say that. You came in to blast Apple for being "greedy" and I called you out on the fact that the split (70/30) is the same for both the Apple store and the Google one. Then you change the subject to cry about Apple making "a lot of profit" on the device itself. Now you don't see any relevance to said profits?!
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I didn't say that. You came in to blast Apple for being "greedy" and I called you out on the fact that the split (70/30) is the same for both the Apple store and the Google one. Then you change the subject to cry about Apple making "a lot of profit" on the device itself. Now you don't see any relevance to said profits?!
Can I say I like both jellybean and iOS6 (Even thought iOS6 is pretty lackluster)
Both have their ups and downs
Both have their ups and downs
Why would Google go less than that? If Apple went to 80/20, so would Google. Apple has the biggest app store so everything revolves around their decisions, businesswise. We'll only see competitive pricing when there's more than 2 big app stores and somebody has to stand out.
If by features you mean silly things that the aren't necessary for the masses like Widgets or Toggles now. If think Apple is going to develop some facade like Google Now and start data mining users under the guise of "helping them" then you will be underwhelmed.
If you love great apps that make you "want" to leave the Springboard and enjoy them. If you like great UI design and abhor advertisements then iOS 6 is giving you more of what you love.
The choice is pretty simple.
Android - the platform where the app is an afterthought. It's merely a vehicle for Google advertising. Google would just as soon see you tinker around outside of the app.
iOS - the platform for developers. Apple spends an inordinate amount of time developing (or polishing) tools that give developers the freedom to differentiate their apps and add value.
If Apple only had to focus on a mobile platform that would be different but they've got a desktop platform that is developed simultaneously.
Why is Android always so laggy... from the beggining iOS was smooth. Android is now getting there but not yet.
This is interesting - http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...-remain-like-that-in-the-near-future_id24434/
This is interesting - http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...-remain-like-that-in-the-near-future_id24434/
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Android tends to actually render their transitions (as if it was a 2d engine), but it was all done in software (not GPU accelerated). It's only recently that they've been focusing on visible performance to make things feel smoother.
iOS uses "Screenshots" to do all their fancy transitions (plus they GPU accelerate the entire UI). So it's really just a rendered picture that has transforms applied to it. This allows to create some really pretty transitions. If you go back near the beginning of iOS, their browser was crap when you scrolls or resized, because they would have to re-render. It's gotten a lot better over the years though.
The kid quoted in that article makes some pretty wide assumptions without actually understanding how the Dalvik or Java VMs work. Especially his comments about Swing (java desktop apps). While Java makes it so the developer doesn't have to worry about freeing memory themselves, using memory inefficiently will cause lots of GC passes (Which can cause lag). Plus, most Java desktop apps got a bad rap because devs did heavy lifting in the Swing UI thread (rendering thread), which would freeze the UI.
Bad developers give Java a bad rap. It's Java's fault because they made it easier to get things working, and most devs don't spend the time to understand the GC and threading, which causes lots of **** programs.
That's a heck of a leap from cheap to smart phone illiterate.
How about a lot of Android users prefer not to pay more for the same thing they can get cheaper or free?
Hardly equates to smart phone illiterate
Personally, if I don't have to spend money and can get the same quality of service, I'm going for the free version
Don't be obtuse.
Android holds the majority market share yet excels at basically nothing.
It doesn't make money in any sector of ecommerce like iOS.
It doesn't generate traffic like iOS.
It doesn't have developer support like iOS.
Essentially android is a net gain for no one, not even google which makes more on iOS. Android would need to sell like 2 billion additional phones this year to bring in as much money as iOS does with only a 30% of the global market.
Basically android and android users don't matter...a subject well written about here:
http://www.thestreet.mobi/story/11586384/1/android-users-dont-know-enough-to-matter.html
Google makes no money from Android? LOL. You are utterly clueless, just stop. You make yourself look more like an ignorant fanboy with each post
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-57346049/android-crushes-iphone-makes-google-$5-billion/
I actually read the article. It doesn't mesh with googles numbers even remotely.
And speaking of ignorant fanboys, you're another outed phoney and a hypocrite.
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That graph is over 2 years old LOL. Well before Android started to take over. Nice try though
"How many Android threads do we need?
Where are the mods in this place? Isn't it about time to start locking these threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone and banning Android users just here to flame bait? Its gotten a bit ridiculous."
100% Agree with the above post. Its the same 4 or 5 Android owners that can't stay on the Android forums, since they are all fanboys of their system and has become boring to them, and come here day after day ranting, and bad mouthing the iPhone for nothing better to do.
If I had the Android phone I would not give a second thought going to another competitor forum and posting immature rants. However, those that do are just immature children with nothing better to do with their lives. God help them
Where are the mods in this place? Isn't it about time to start locking these threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone and banning Android users just here to flame bait? Its gotten a bit ridiculous."
100% Agree with the above post. Its the same 4 or 5 Android owners that can't stay on the Android forums, since they are all fanboys of their system and has become boring to them, and come here day after day ranting, and bad mouthing the iPhone for nothing better to do.
If I had the Android phone I would not give a second thought going to another competitor forum and posting immature rants. However, those that do are just immature children with nothing better to do with their lives. God help them
"How many Android threads do we need?
Where are the mods in this place? Isn't it about time to start locking these threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone and banning Android users just here to flame bait? Its gotten a bit ridiculous."
100% Agree with the above post. Its the same 4 or 5 Android owners that can't stay on the Android forums, since they are all fanboys of their system and has become boring to them, and come here day after day ranting, and bad mouthing the iPhone for nothing better to do.
If I had the Android phone I would not give a second thought going to another competitor forum and posting immature rants. However, those that do are just immature children with nothing better to do with their lives. God help them
Yes, the same people over and over and over, giving the same arguments day in and day out, turning every non-Android thread they see into the same circular debates.
"How many Android threads do we need?
Where are the mods in this place? Isn't it about time to start locking these threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone and banning Android users just here to flame bait? Its gotten a bit ridiculous."
100% Agree with the above post. Its the same 4 or 5 Android owners that can't stay on the Android forums, since they are all fanboys of their system and has become boring to them, and come here day after day ranting, and bad mouthing the iPhone for nothing better to do.
If I had the Android phone I would not give a second thought going to another competitor forum and posting immature rants. However, those that do are just immature children with nothing better to do with their lives. God help them
Most of those "immature children" you speak of, have been on macrumors for a while and just recently converted to android.
I'll Agree that apps are an afterthought in android but they have better intergration with many services.
Sure apple now has twitter and Facebook but apple won't let me use gmail or chrome as my default programs.
Most Mac owners I know use those services. Having a continuous experience is key
That article is out of date. The new android phones out now are fast and buttery smooth. There is no issue any more with android being laggy. Judge between the two based on features, but performance is a non issue, if anything the most recent android phones are faster and perform better than the iPhone. I have a Galaxy SII that I've owned since before that article came out that I recently put ICS on it, and it's a really impressive experience and every bit as fast and smooth as the 4S.
Then they should know better. Say it once and move on. If they like Android so much, and it's so much better, be happy and enjoy. Go to XDA' forum and have at it. It's old, and tiring...
And others like what they're seeing. There's no point in continuing to post on an Apple forum about how you've switched and JB is just amazing because all it starts it debates. Go to XDA if you want an Android community where you can talk bad about the iPhone all you want. The android Reddit page is also a good place.
All these out of date stats and articles just goes to show the argument against Android is running out of steam. Like I've said before, it's pure obfuscation and obscurantism, clinging onto the failings of Android from yesteryear.
Let them. They don't and likely won't understand that Android is a different model.
Beyond clearing up their BS, there's not much more you can do because it is their choice after all.
Meanwhile ICS/JB continue to propel Android forward at a far faster rate than iOS is moving.
Let them. They don't and likely won't understand that Android is a different model.
Beyond clearing up their BS, there's not much more you can do because it is their choice after all.
Meanwhile ICS/JB continue to propel Android forward at a far faster rate than iOS is moving.
Except the most recent comscore data shows iOS moved up more than Android did.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/02/comscore-may-2012-smartphone/
A whopping .8 higher than Android, wow. That's going to disappear when next quarters numbers are out thanks to S3 sales.
Fully aware of that Exio, but the issue of being a jerk staying on this iPhone forum ranting over and over again on the same topic is boring and getting out of hand, and the Moderator should at least have an Android sub-topic for those that are mentally Andriod driven challenge to post on for their badly needed therapy.
I selected the iPhone for its mature look, size, and iOS. Returned a Galaxy III S sometime ago because it was not to my liking, and too darn wide, but I have not, nor will ever go onto the Android forum and rant. Too grown up for that.