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Radon87000

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iOS 8 (and even 7) still support pretty much everything on the App Store, so I'm not inclined to upgrade and degrade my experience with lag and instability of iOS 9.

I'll certainly jump on iOS 9 once I can see that it's just as fast as 8.4.1 though.
Lol so you will always be one version behind the most recent because I am pretty damn sure iOS 9 is going to take a whole year to fix and by that time 10 will be out although I shudder to think how my 6 will handle it if 9 was this bad.But then again I will be upgrading to iPhone 7 anyways
 

C DM

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Reset never fixes stuttering and lag.The problem is in the OS itself
Depends on the issue. Some with more noticeable delays and lags than some dropped frames in some places might get those resolved with resetting, as various people have. Certainly it seems like it would be worth trying something rather than not doing anything for someone that is experiencing bad enough delays and lags that are really getting in their way. It's not to say that it will work for everyone's issues, but it just might.
 

sanke1

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Why? Things improved for pretty much all devices with later updates to iOS 7 (compared to 7.0) and later updates to iOS 8 (compared to 8.0).

For me, sluggishness remained exactly the same from iOS 8.0 to 8.1.4
:(
 

aleni

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iOS 9 is the only major OS upgrade that doesn't slow down the system for my iPhone 5s. every previous iphones gets laggy after 2 major OS updates. but this time with iOS9, iPhone 5S is still fast and smooth. good guy craig fedirighi.
 

Merkie

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7.0 and 7.0.x releases were rather bad with lag and animations (among other things), most of which which didn't get addressed until 7.1.
Not true. Complaints were made about the lengthy animations, not lag or stutter. In 7.1 the animation speed was increased. It was a design choice. Stuttering animations with low fps is not a design choice.

You're really twisting facts to your advantage. Don't rewrite history.
 
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I7guy

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Not true. Complaints were made about the lengthy animations, not lag or stutter. In 7.1 the animation speed was increased. It was a design choice. Stuttering animations with low fps is not a design choice.

You're really twisting facts to your advantage. Don't rewrite history.
All that had to be done is to dig up one post where the complaint was made of lag in iOS 7. Is that where this thread is now?

Or is there no detail not worthy of a tit-for-tat disagreement?
 

aleni

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From what i remembered, ios 7 lagged in iphone 5s at launch, i think it was until 7.1.2 the Os becomes beast
 

C DM

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Not true. Complaints were made about the lengthy animations, not lag or stutter. In 7.1 the animation speed was increased. It was a design choice. Stuttering animations with low fps is not a design choice.

You're really twisting facts to your advantage. Don't rewrite history.
Complaints were made about all those things and more. Having participated in tons of threads when 7.0 was released I recall it all fairly well, so no facts are being twisted.
 

C DM

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Don't know about 7 but my iPhone 6 was a monster on all versions of iOS 8
And for many that was far from being the case on iOS 8.0, whether it was from the point of view of lag and delays, overall performance, overall stability, and overall functional issues. Certainly that was the case for many more people with many more severe issues compared to what iOS 9.0 has been.
 

nordique

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For me, sluggishness remained exactly the same from iOS 8.0 to 8.1.4
:(

To be fair though, and to his point, it did eventually improve especially for older devices. I agree iOS 8 was sluggish on older devices for quite some time but it did improve a fair amount on the 4s and 5/5c once 8.2 and 8.3 came out.

8.4.1 wasn't too bad on older devices and perfectly usable


I agree completely with those posters who suggest iOS 9 is off to a better start than iOS 8 was. iOS 8 was riddled with bugs at launch.
 

I7guy

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It took Apple half the lifespan of iOS8 to get it mostly right.
There is something inherently wrong with that.
Not really. The x.0 versions of IOS have never really been great going back to what I remember is IOS 5; which slaughtered battery life. It's the same cycle of lather, rinse, repeat.
 

dk001

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Not really. The x.0 versions of IOS have never really been great going back to what I remember is IOS 5; which slaughtered battery life. It's the same cycle of lather, rinse, repeat.

and? I am saying there is something inherently wrong when Apple takes the majority of the lifespan of an iOS version to mostly get it right.
Take your kool aid platitudes elsewhere.
 
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Act3

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Not really. The x.0 versions of IOS have never really been great going back to what I remember is IOS 5; which slaughtered battery life. It's the same cycle of lather, rinse, repeat.

Time to change the soap then. Lol
 

scjr

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and? I am saying there is something inherently wrong when Apple takes the majority of the lifespan of an iOS version to mostly get it right.
Take your kool aid platitudes elsewhere.

And he's saying it's the same routine we see with iOS releases. Different opinion. It has nothing to do with a beverage.
 

C DM

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It took Apple half the lifespan of iOS8 to get it mostly right.
There is something inherently wrong with that.
And that's the reality, pretty much of much of the software out there really. All we can do about it is rehash the same discussions over and over, as we've been doing.
 

Act3

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And that's the reality, pretty much of much of the software out there really. All we can do about it is rehash the same discussions over and over, as we've been doing.

I disagree. Windows 7 was and is not like that at all. I will bite my tongue for what I'd really like to say.
 

C DM

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I disagree. Windows 7 was and is not like that at all. I will bite my tongue for what I'd really like to say.
There are exceptions, but even those are inconsistent. But then look at what Vista was like, while XP and 2000 were good before it, and yet ME was horrific prior to that. Similar to Windows 8 not being great, while for the most part Windows 10 is quite good for most.

In any case, whether it's this or that, proving it one way or another doesn't change or affect anything related to it. It's just talk, and in this case the same repeated talk that has been repeated many times over at least the past few years.
 
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sanke1

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To be fair though, and to his point, it did eventually improve especially for older devices. I agree iOS 8 was sluggish on older devices for quite some time but it did improve a fair amount on the 4s and 5/5c once 8.2 and 8.3 came out.

8.4.1 wasn't too bad on older devices and perfectly usable


I agree completely with those posters who suggest iOS 9 is off to a better start than iOS 8 was. iOS 8 was riddled with bugs at launch.
This is the thing I dislike about current yearly updates.
It goes like this
  • Release a x.0 version in Sept
  • It's buggy and stuttery as hell
  • But by next year's July-August, most of the bugs and UI issues are taken care off
  • Release a x.0 version in Sept
  • It's again buggy as hell. Phones lag in places where UI lag/stutter was fixed in previous versions
  • Then we wait a whole 10 months for our phones to be stable. Then within 2 months our new misery starts.
This vicious cycle needs to stop. They need to take a break and release iOS 10 in 2017 instead.

At this point, Android is seriously looking stronger than ever. Even with Android 6.0, none of the Nexus devices are appearing to lag or stutter.
 
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Radon87000

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This is the thing I dislike about current yearly updates.
It goes like this
  • Release a x.0 version in Sept
  • It's buggy and stuttery as hell
  • But by next year's July-August, most of the bugs and UI issues are taken care off
  • Release a x.0 version in Sept
  • It's again buggy as hell. Phones lag in places where UI lag/stutter was fixed in previous versions
  • Then we wait a whole 10 months for our phones to be stable. Then within 2 months our new misery starts.
This vicious cycle needs to stop. They need to take a break and release iOS 10 in 2017 instead.

At this point, Android is seriously looking stronger than ever. Even with Android 6.0, none of the Nexus devices are appearing to lag or stutter.
While Apple sat on its laurels rather relying on IOS history of smoothness and didn't take optimisation seriously,Google was consistently focusing on performance with each release which is why marshmallow is the smoothest it's ever been.

If there is one thing about Android its that the updates if you get any never slow the device down
 
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