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batting1000

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Well for 9 Tuesday seems to be the day they've chosen.

Don't bother arguing it. No matter what you say, he'll have a response for why it's not necessarily the case. Apple could release a new beta every single day at 1 PM for the next 20 years and he'll still say there's no definitive pattern and that there's no certainty.
 

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Don't bother arguing it. No matter what you say, he'll have a response for why it's not necessarily the case. Apple could release a new beta every single day at 1 PM for the next 20 years and he'll still say there's no definitive pattern and that there's no certainty.
You yourself know that it's not like one day is a given and have pointed that kind of thing yourself in some of your own replies. Seems like the nonsensical hypocrisy and stalking continues. Why is that not surprising? :rolleyes:
 

batting1000

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You yourself know that it's not like one day is a given and have pointed that kind of thing yourself in some of your own replies. Seems like the nonsensical hypocrisy and stalking continues. Why is that not surprising? :rolleyes:

I acknowledge the fact that it's [more often than not] on a certain day. I don't rule out other days, knowing Apple, but I look at previous and past betas and say that Tuesday is the most likely day...even though betas have in fact been released on other days.
 

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Oh wait yeah it was. These betas are getting me mixed up.

Yeah, there are so many different betas now between both OS X and iOS, kinda crazy. But another note on top of all the "strange" days last week for OS X betas, I don't think a single one was even at "normal" times either. OS X DP 5 was late with a 4pm pacific, PB 3 was I think around noon and same for 10.10.5 I think.

Also the El Capitan betas last week were only one week after the previous build. (My bet as to why was because of Windows 10 release, and they wanted to "distract" people from it just a bit.)
 

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I acknowledge the fact that it's [more often than not] on a certain day. I don't rule out other days, knowing Apple, but I look at previous and past betas and say that Tuesday is the most likely day...even though betas have in fact been released on other days.
And somehow that's not what you said in your previous reply instead opting to go on some personal tirade as you tend to do stalking my posts in various threads. There's a difference between discussing the topic vs those participating in the discussion.

Based on the history of betas that has been posted in some other threads before, Tuesday was just slightly more frequent than either Monday or Wednesday (can't quite recall which one exactly) with basically the first 3 days of the week representing a good majority of the releases. And while I'm more of the opinion that there isn't really a pattern, there are some more likely days than others. Tuesday is one of them, but it's not the day when almost all of the releases have happened or the day that even most iOS 9 releases have happened, as the other poster has mentioned. Not sure what's there to deny or argue when it comes to that (and you yourself know that too, despite trying to stir up some argument about it).
 

batting1000

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And somehow that's not what you said in your previous reply instead opting to go on some personal tirade as you tend to do stalking my posts in various threads. There's a difference between discussing the topic vs those participating in the discussion.

Based on the history of betas that has been posted in some other threads before, Tuesday was just slightly more frequent than either Monday or Wednesday (can't quite recall which one exactly) with basically the first 3 days of the week representing a good majority of the releases. And while I'm more of the opinion that there isn't really a pattern, there are some more likely days than others. Tuesday is one of them, but it's not the day when almost all of the releases have happened or the day that even most iOS 9 releases have happened, as the other poster has mentioned. Not sure what's there to deny or argue when it comes to that (and you yourself know that too, despite trying to stir up some argument about it).

Obviously, and that's not what I'm implying. Beta 1 is an exception because WWDC was on a Monday...I'm referring to the betas following the first one. Betas 2 and 4 were released on Tuesday and beta 3 was likely supposed to be released on a Tuesday as well. I think we can all agree (without twisting the meaning into 50 different things) that "early in the week" means Monday or Tuesday and going by the 2 week pattern, beta 3 probably should been out on the 2nd Tuesday after b2.

Not trying to stir anything up, but it's hard to not see your posts considering I like to read through most of the other posts in a thread before replying. Stalking typically has a malicious intent but you won't find one here...this is an online discussion forum.
 

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Obviously, and that's not what I'm implying. Beta 1 is an exception because WWDC was on a Monday...I'm referring to the betas following the first one. Betas 2 and 4 were released on Tuesday and beta 3 was likely supposed to be released on a Tuesday as well. I think we can all agree (without twisting the meaning into 50 different things) that "early in the week" means Monday or Tuesday and going by the 2 week pattern, beta 3 probably should been out on the 2nd Tuesday after b2.

Not trying to stir anything up, but it's hard to not see your posts considering I like to read through most of the other posts in a thread before replying.
I like to read through all the posts as well, but somehow don't single out your posts in thread after thread and make statements about you in my replies (instead or even in addition to the topic). Again, there's a difference.

As for betas for iOS 9, or any other version, I guess if you don't go with the actual days that things were released and use assumptions to conclude that something was supposed to happen on a different day, you can really say any day would work then. Since assumptions are just personal opinions which don't play a role if people are looking at actual reality, what I mention still applies.
 

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I like to read through all the posts as well, but somehow don't single out your posts in thread after thread and make statements about you in my replies (instead or even in addition to the topic). Again, there's a difference.

As for betas for iOS 9, or any other version, I guess if you don't go with the actual days that things were released and use assumptions to conclude that something was supposed to happen on a different day, you can really say any day would work then. Since assumptions are just personal opinions which don't play a role if people are looking at actual reality, what I mention still applies.

So you're saying that even though the 3 subsequent iOS 9 betas have been released on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Tuesday (in that order), you wouldn't take a [wild] guess that beta 5 will come out tomorrow, Wednesday, or next Tuesday/Wednesday?
 

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So you're saying that even though the 3 subsequent iOS 9 betas have been released on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Tuesday (in that order), you wouldn't take a [wild] guess that beta 5 will come out tomorrow, Wednesday, or next Tuesday/Wednesday?
That's not what the posts I was replying to were saying though.
 

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Regardless, I'm just asking you a question.
As pretty much usual, if there was a week I would think that there's a good chance of it coming out, I'd generally think it would happen on either Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday most likely. I likely wouldn't pick out of one of those days as being more or less likely overall, given that there's really no advantage of somehow focusing on one particular day, and even if there are slight differences when it comes to probabilities simply based on past releases, they are not significant enough to give one day a realistic enough of an advantage that it would somehow be more worthwhile to "pick it" for some reason.
 

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I know I can't say much given that I have only used Public Beta 1 and 2, but iOS 9 betas seem similar so far.

It's a bit disappointing. The idea that the iOS betas inevitably go through a rough patch before sort-of-being-fixed-before-GM-but-not-quite seems almost 'fair enough' when the new major version introduces quite large changes, both in front of and behind the scenes, as is fair to say of both iOS 7 and 8. With iOS 9 I was really hoping the rumoured focus on performance and stability would be true, and if it was, surely it could only have meant that the early betas -- even the first one -- would be an improvement on iOS 8, with each one getting better ending with a much superior version to iOS 8. But it feels like the betas are, as usual, just a struggle to get back to a stable state again. If this is because iOS 9 does in fact have quite a few changes behind the scenes, then I hope it is iOS 10, finally, that delivers the stability I hope for.
 

batting1000

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To be fair more betas isn't better. Means there were more glaring bugs to fix faster.

That would imply that there are very few bugs in iOS 9. I've been using El Capitan daily since it came out and it's been super stable for me...I can't say the same for iOS 9. I'd say iOS 9 definitely needs more work compared to El Capitan. I agree with @XTheLancerX in that iOS 9 is a step or two below iOS 8 in terms of performance and stability which is a bit disconcerting considering iOS 9 is supposed to be improved in those areas.
 

lagwagon

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To be fair more betas isn't better. Means there were more glaring bugs to fix faster.

Not necessarily true.

a new build every week just really means a smaller "list" of fixes/changes each week vs if it was two weeks. The end result is basically the same amount of fixes/changes in a two week span, it's just weekly builds means you get more frequent fixes (instead of having to wait a fully two weeks for some fixes.)
 
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