iPad iPad 2 ruined by iOS 8

[MyopicPaideia]

• Made a claim (same number of threads complaining about not being able to upgrade as those complaining about upgrades)
• Can't support the claim
• Preempt being called out
• Now it's a side issue

Contrary to what you have claimed, there are NOT the same or similar number of complaints about not being able to upgrade.

This is NOT a side issue but very relevant to the point of this thread. The mythical masses of people who would complain if Apple was more conservative in what devices they allowed to upgrade doesn't exist. And since it doesn't exist, the question remains...

What are the reasons why Apple has a liberal range of devices that can upgrade when the results are not satisfactory for some/many...compounded by the inability to revert to a previous version?

Ok, you've sucked me in. The OP asked about trying to downgrade from 8 to 7 as solution to his iPad 2 woes. I instead suggested he try to wipe his device and start from scratch on 8 as an alternative solution.

I then made the mistake of making the side comment about there being just as many threads about not being able to upgrade old devices as there were about being unhappy with upgrading old devices.

I'll rephrase that. In my experience on these forums, my impression is that I have encountered a relatively equal amount of support for both sides of the iOS upgrade discussion. Threads dedicated to this issue are numerous, and they usually devolve in exactly this kind of semantic argument, straying away from the relevant discussion, including typical internet forum "prove it!" plays, and resulting in two posters have a long drawn out discussion about why the other bears a burden of proof towards the other.

Let's avoid that. I concede my original statement was over-generalised and probably not specifically true in the strictest sense of my original casual wording. 1 internet forum point to you. Hopefully you can concede that your impressions and perceptions gleaned from your experiences on these forums are unique to you and that we most likely have not had an identical experience here to each other, so my experience here does not match yours leading me to come to a different conclusion than you in this particular specific case.

Shall we get back on topic?

 

[MyopicPaideia]

android requirements have been steady after decreasing from 4.3 to 4.4, 5.0 is same as 4.4

windows has decreased from vista to 7 to 8 and likely further decreased to 10

I really think it is because the business models of the OS' are different.

Windows system requirements went up from XP to Vista to 7, and remained static from 7 to 8 and 8 to 10.

By the same token, OS X system requirements have remained static from Lion through to Yosemite. Yosemite's minimum requirements include any Mac from 2008 or later, and some 2007 iMacs as well.

But that is absolute minimum system requirements. How does Windows 8 actually run on a computer fitted with a 1GHz Arrendale CPU sporting 1 GB RAM and an old 5400 RPM hard drive?

In the same way iOS minimum requirements support devices with 4-5 year old innards.

As far as Android...well 4.0 supported devices with 256GB RAM, 4.4 supports those with a minimum of 512GB RAM. 5.0 is static in this regard.

Looks like the trend is only upwards? I can't find anywhere where system requirements actually decrease. Are you refering to storage requirements?

I'm not even quite sure what the argument is on this point? Are you trying to say that on other platforms/OS's that older harware/devices actually run better and faster on the latest versions of the OS than the one it originally shipped with? Hard to swallow, that assertion...

 

[gotluck]

I'm not even quite sure what the argument is on this point? Are you trying to say that on other platforms/OS's that older harware/devices actually run better and faster on the latest versions of the OS than the one it originally shipped with? Hard to swallow, that assertion...

Precisely, my experience on my stock android device has improved from its way from 4.2.2 -> 5.0, but it is a bit unfair because android started feature rich and and needed smoothness and iOS was developed vice versa. When oem skins are involved everything changes.

Regarding windows yes you are correct regarding minimum requirements. I moreso meant performance. Let's say you bought a pc with vista. Your pc likely improved in performance (marginally) with each major upgrade.

But should that ever change they can be downgraded, like I think every os except iOS

I really enjoy iOS fwiw, it's this aspect that grinds my gears.

 

[JuryDuty]

Just another post to say my iPad 2 is pretty swift under 8.1. I'm actually surprised it supports it at all, so I consider it a bonus!

 

[PracticalMac]

Apple should replace devices that failed to install properly, since sometimes it fails upgrading, wont reinstall or downgrade.

IKIK, don't upgrade, but Apple practically forces one to upgrade.