iPad as a laptop replacement

[bondr006]

You must be easily pleased if you are happy with the minor things apple drip feeds you every year, you must like being on the end of a piece of string climbing up one arm lengths each year haha

You must be never satisfied, as no OS's are at their endgame over night. All OS's take years of development and keep adding new features as they are updated. In reality, all OS's are in a state of evolution and development. As I pointed out above...

Fact is, it took Microsoft 10 years to get to Win95 and get the modern multitasking and other features we are used to in a modern OS. iPadOS has only been around since September 24, 2019, not even 3 years yet. Give all the complaining about iPadOS a break and just enjoy it for what it is. In the mean time, have some patience with Apple, and if you can't wait for iPadOS to mature and get to exactly where you want it to be, feel free to step off and take a different path at any point.

I love iPadOS for its simplicity and intuitive ease of use. I know not everybody can use it like I can, but the fact still remains that iPadOS on my iPad Pro has easily run my real estate businesses since Nov. 2021, cut my work flow, and makes using a computer fun again. If that means I am easily pleased, so be it. Learn how to use a tablet computer and the OS that runs it. Accept that it is not MacOS or Windows, and never will be, but an OS that is made just for the iPad tablet. It feels a ton better than never being pleased, always being irritated, and complaining like a petulant child.

petulant

1. easily annoyed and complaining in a rude way like a child 2. easily annoyed…

dictionary.cambridge.org

 

[BhaveshUK]

You must be never satisfied, as no OS's are at their endgame over night. All OS's take years of development and keep adding new features as they are updated. In reality, all OS's are in a state of evolution and development. As I pointed out above...

Fact is, it took Microsoft 10 years to get to Win95 and get the modern multitasking and other features we are used to in a modern OS. iPadOS has only been around since September 24, 2019, not even 3 years yet. Give all the complaining about iPadOS a break and just enjoy it for what it is. In the mean time, have some patience with Apple, and if you can't wait for iPadOS to mature and get to exactly where you want it to be, feel free to step off and take a different path at any point.

I love iPadOS for its simplicity and intuitive ease of use. I know not everybody can use it like I can, but the fact still remains that iPadOS on my iPad Pro has easily run my real estate businesses since Nov. 2021, cut my work flow, and makes using a computer fun again. If that means I am easily pleased, so be it. Learn how to use a tablet computer and the OS that runs it. Accept that it is not MacOS or Windows, and never will be, but an OS that is made just for the iPad tablet. It feels a ton better than never being pleased, always being irritated, and complaining like a petulant child.

Technically it’s true iPad OS has only been around for 3 years. But iPad itself has been around since 2010 (12 years) and I think it’s disingenuous to not acknowledge that. The iPad has had 12 years to mature, not 3 years. And I would argue it’s evolved so much in hardware and software in that time — even if all the features I would need in my only travel device are still not in place.

Outside of that, I agree with what you’ve said. Enjoy iPad for what it is rather than what you hope it could be. And as you mentioned, I can’t wait for iPad to be everything I need in one device so I’m keeping it as a supplementary device. Right now I’m looking for something else to meet my full work needs ☺️

 

[bondr006]

Technically it’s true iPad OS has only been around for 3 years. But iPad itself has been around since 2010 (12 years) and I think it’s disingenuous to not acknowledge that. The iPad has had 12 years to mature, not 3 years. And I would argue it’s evolved so much in hardware and software in that time — even if all the features I would need in my only travel device are still not in place.

Outside of that, I agree with what you’ve said. Enjoy iPad for what it is rather than what you hope it could be. And as you mentioned, I can’t wait for iPad to be everything I need in one device so I’m keeping it as a supplementary device. Right now I’m looking for something else to meet my full work needs ☺️

And I agree for the most part with what you said. iPad has been around for 12 years but the first 9 years it shared a phone OS and was not considered anything but a big iPhone or iPod Touch. For the last 3 years, Apple has been treating it seriously and developing it as a separate device with its own OS. Because of the first 9 years, the hardware matured quicker than the phone OS that ran it. So, the iPad as it stands alone, still shares similarities to the iPhone but iPadOS(especially now for the M1 iPads) has progressed well past the iPhone and is starting to catch up to the pro hardware in the short 3 years iPadOS has existed. IMO, the only thing Apple could have done better is to have treated the iPad as a separate tablet device from the beginning and it would be much farther along at this point.

 

[Dealmans]

You must be never satisfied, as no OS's are at their endgame over night. All OS's take years of development and keep adding new features as they are updated. In reality, all OS's are in a state of evolution and development. As I pointed out above...

Fact is, it took Microsoft 10 years to get to Win95 and get the modern multitasking and other features we are used to in a modern OS. iPadOS has only been around since September 24, 2019, not even 3 years yet. Give all the complaining about iPadOS a break and just enjoy it for what it is. In the mean time, have some patience with Apple, and if you can't wait for iPadOS to mature and get to exactly where you want it to be, feel free to step off and take a different path at any point.

I love iPadOS for its simplicity and intuitive ease of use. I know not everybody can use it like I can, but the fact still remains that iPadOS on my iPad Pro has easily run my real estate businesses since Nov. 2021, cut my work flow, and makes using a computer fun again. If that means I am easily pleased, so be it. Learn how to use a tablet computer and the OS that runs it. Accept that it is not MacOS or Windows, and never will be, but an OS that is made just for the iPad tablet. It feels a ton better than never being pleased, always being irritated, and complaining like a petulant child.

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Definition of PETULANT

insolent or rude in speech or behavior; characterized by temporary or capricious ill humor : peevish… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

petulant

1. easily annoyed and complaining in a rude way like a child 2. easily annoyed…

dictionary.cambridge.org

Gee way over the top with your pathetic dictionary attempt, I wasn't complaining just pointing out your iPad os rants, and apple's drip feeding on everything lol, there is 4 Macs, 2 iPads, 4 iPhones, 2 atv's in this house so am no amateur when it comes to apple.
I have no iPad now, but have just ordered a 11" 256gb wifi so will see.

 

[Dealmans]

Not sure how anyone could use a keyboard with the 11”, it’s definitely not a laptop replacement. Too small. Not that I want it to be.

 

[bondr006]

Not sure how anyone could use a keyboard with the 11”, it’s definitely not a laptop replacement. Too small. Not that I want it to be.

Not a laptop replacement for you maybe. Definitely a laptop replacement for many of us.

 

[prospervic]

Not a laptop replacement for you maybe. Definitely a laptop replacement for many of us.

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For those whose needs are met by iOS (and that’s plenty of people) most certainly.

 

[secretk]

Not a laptop replacement for you maybe. Definitely a laptop replacement for many of us.

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Nice! Is this the Logitech keyboard btw? I have the Apple Folio for my 11. I have to admit that the keyboard is OK for moderate typing but if we are talking about intensive typing aka all day I find it a bit small and I would turn to my laptop.

It is great when I am outside in a coffee shop though and I would definitely want to have the keyboard and then fold it and use the iPad as a notebook with my Pencil based on my needs.

 

[bondr006]

Nice! Is this the Logitech keyboard btw? I have the Apple Folio for my 11. I have to admit that the keyboard is OK for moderate typing but if we are talking about intensive typing aka all day I find it a bit small and I would turn to my laptop.

It is great when I am outside in a coffee shop though and I would definitely want to have the keyboard and then fold it and use the iPad as a notebook with my Pencil based on my needs.

Yes it is the Logitech Combo Touch.

I have had my Logi Combo Touch for 7 months now and still love it. It is standing up well to a lot of use. Has fully protected my iPad Pro from two drops now without a mark or malfunction on the LCT. Like the Magic Keyboard, the LCT has the smart connector so you do not have to worry about charging it, or having to depend on a Bluetooth connection. It easily detaches from the keyboard while still giving it protection and a fully adjustable kickstand. The typing experience is A#1, and the bigger multitouch trackpad has all the gestures we Apple folk are used too. It is smooth, and clicks anywhere on the trackpad. I have not experienced any hiccups with the trackpad or keyboard. I cannot understand why Apple would put such a small trackpad on the MKB, and no shortcut keys either. For the higher price, you would expect a superior product and user experience. But just the opposite is true. In this case, you definitely get less and pay more. Don't get me wrong. I love Apple and the hardware products they make but you can find just as good if not better accessories for less elsewhere. IMO, the LCT is a better product for less $$ than the MKB.

Things I would miss if I had to give up the LCT.

1. Protection on the edges.
2. Being able to remove the backlit keyboard and still have iPad fully protected in a case with an adjustable kickstand.
3. The larger, multi touch click anywhere track pad. It's frigging amazing.
4. The material the MKB is made of smudges and marks up easily. The LCT material is tough and does not.
5. And probably my favorite, the really convenient full row of iPadOS shortcut keys.

I would not hesitate recommending the LCT to anyone looking for a great keyboard case for their iPad. I have not had anything but a good experience with it and many other Logitech products.

 

[sparksd]

Yes it is the Logitech Combo Touch.

I have had my Logi Combo Touch for 7 months now and still love it. It is standing up well to a lot of use. Has fully protected my iPad Pro from two drops now without a mark or malfunction on the LCT. Like the Magic Keyboard, the LCT has the smart connector so you do not have to worry about charging it, or having to depend on a Bluetooth connection. It easily detaches from the keyboard while still giving it protection and a fully adjustable kickstand. The typing experience is A#1, and the bigger multitouch trackpad has all the gestures we Apple folk are used too. It is smooth, and clicks anywhere on the trackpad. I have not experienced any hiccups with the trackpad or keyboard. I cannot understand why Apple would put such a small trackpad on the MKB, and no shortcut keys either. For the higher price, you would expect a superior product and user experience. But just the opposite is true. In this case, you definitely get less and pay more. Don't get me wrong. I love Apple and the hardware products they make but you can find just as good if not better accessories for less elsewhere. IMO, the LCT is a better product for less $$ than the MKB.

Things I would miss if I had to give up the LCT.

1. Protection on the edges.
2. Being able to remove the backlit keyboard and still have iPad fully protected in a case with an adjustable kickstand.
3. The larger, multi touch click anywhere track pad. It's frigging amazing.
4. The material the MKB is made of smudges and marks up easily. The LCT material is tough and does not.
5. And probably my favorite, the really convenient full row of iPadOS shortcut keys.

I would not hesitate recommending the LCT to anyone looking for a great keyboard case for their iPad. I have not had anything but a good experience with it and many other Logitech products.

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Agree - I have one for the 2021 12.9 Pro.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Sadly I think you’re right. It’s going to be a good few years before iPad can reliably be a sole computer (without a backup Mac or Windows machine to cover any hiccups).



I love this graph. But I feel as phones get bigger and laptops get thinner/ more efficient, that space for the iPad is becoming thinner and thinner for a lot of people. Why own three devices when two will do everything you want for cheaper?

Sadly I think you’re right. It’s going to be a good few years before iPad can reliably be a sole computer (without a backup Mac or Windows machine to cover any hiccups).



I love this graph. But I feel as phones get bigger and laptops get thinner/ more efficient, that space for the iPad is becoming thinner and thinner for a lot of people. Why own three devices when two will do everything you want for cheaper?

I’m just not interested in watching content on my laptop. I don’t want to lug my laptop around the place and just wouldn’t have it in bed. For me laptops are only partially portable unlike iPads. Portability is key for me.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Not sure how anyone could use a keyboard with the 11”, it’s definitely not a laptop replacement. Too small. Not that I want it to be.

It makes it easier to navigate and who wants to use the onscreen keyboard. My hands aren’t big enough.

 

[Digitalguy]

Yes it is the Logitech Combo Touch.

I have had my Logi Combo Touch for 7 months now and still love it. It is standing up well to a lot of use. Has fully protected my iPad Pro from two drops now without a mark or malfunction on the LCT. Like the Magic Keyboard, the LCT has the smart connector so you do not have to worry about charging it, or having to depend on a Bluetooth connection. It easily detaches from the keyboard while still giving it protection and a fully adjustable kickstand. The typing experience is A#1, and the bigger multitouch trackpad has all the gestures we Apple folk are used too. It is smooth, and clicks anywhere on the trackpad. I have not experienced any hiccups with the trackpad or keyboard. I cannot understand why Apple would put such a small trackpad on the MKB, and no shortcut keys either. For the higher price, you would expect a superior product and user experience. But just the opposite is true. In this case, you definitely get less and pay more. Don't get me wrong. I love Apple and the hardware products they make but you can find just as good if not better accessories for less elsewhere. IMO, the LCT is a better product for less $$ than the MKB.

Things I would miss if I had to give up the LCT.

1. Protection on the edges.
2. Being able to remove the backlit keyboard and still have iPad fully protected in a case with an adjustable kickstand.
3. The larger, multi touch click anywhere track pad. It's frigging amazing.
4. The material the MKB is made of smudges and marks up easily. The LCT material is tough and does not.
5. And probably my favorite, the really convenient full row of iPadOS shortcut keys.

I would not hesitate recommending the LCT to anyone looking for a great keyboard case for their iPad. I have not had anything but a good experience with it and many other Logitech products.

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I have the combo touch for the 10.5 (seems virtually identical to this one) and the Magic Keyboard, and while I agree with some points, especially point 4, I still much prefer the MK. And the simple reason is the typing experience, which I find much superior on the MK. Trackpad size makes no difference to me (even on laptops by the way).
The protection is a double edged sword, as it make the iPad much heavier. Personally at home I use all my iPads naked for max comfort (but if I had kids or pets I'd probably have a different view).
On the go it's nice to have protection, but there is the weight issue and the fact that the cover is very hard and annoying to remove (it's meant to stay there all the time).
Also lap use is ok on a couch but not in some public chairs, especially with armrests. You can put the MK further since the surface is shorter because of no kickstand, which gives is a more comfortable experience
Recently I bought the extremely light Pitaka case that works with the MK and protects the side.
Seems the best compromise so far for those who prefer the MK typing experience, but still want protection.

 

[Dealmans]

Not a laptop replacement for you maybe. Definitely a laptop replacement for many of us.

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Tried that on a 12.9" even that's too small. that Logitech weight too much.

 

[Dealmans]

easily replaced my MBP and took over taking care of my Real Estate businesses back in 11/2021.

Out of the boot of your car lol?

Can't imagine a real estate office just using a 11" iPad

 

[sparksd]

Tried that on a 12.9" even that's too small. that Logitech weight too much. View attachment 2020614

Very much a personal preference thing. I got both the MK and Logi Combo for my 2021 12.9 to try out together. I returned the MK and kept the Logi as I liked it better. No regrets many months on.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Out of the boot of your car lol?

Can't imagine a real estate office just using a 11" iPad

But, isn’t that just because you don’t know what it takes to run a real estate office?

 

[Dealmans]

But, isn’t that just because you don’t know what it takes to run a real estate office?

Guess you've never been in one then lol

 

[Dealmans]

Very much a personal preference thing. I got both the MK and Logi Combo for my 2021 12.9 to try out together. I returned the MK and kept the Logi as I liked it better. No regrets many months on.

Both are too heavy, apples is a rip off, Logitech is too heavy even with just the back on, tried it too.

 

[sparksd]

Both are too heavy, apples is a rip off, Logitech is too heavy even with just the back on, tried it too.

Why I said it's a personal preference and individuals need to try them and use or not use one. I wouldn't base my purchase decisions on opinions stated here one way or the other.

 

[Dealmans]

Only people I know that can use a iPad as a laptop replacement are over 70

 

[sparksd]

Only people I know that can use a iPad as a laptop replacement are over 70

The opposite is the case for me.

 

[Dealmans]

of course lol

 

[bondr006]

I just got rid of one of the most annoying things about this forum. I love the ignore button.

 

[Abazigal]

Yes it is the Logitech Combo Touch.

I have had my Logi Combo Touch for 7 months now and still love it. It is standing up well to a lot of use. Has fully protected my iPad Pro from two drops now without a mark or malfunction on the LCT. Like the Magic Keyboard, the LCT has the smart connector so you do not have to worry about charging it, or having to depend on a Bluetooth connection. It easily detaches from the keyboard while still giving it protection and a fully adjustable kickstand. The typing experience is A#1, and the bigger multitouch trackpad has all the gestures we Apple folk are used too. It is smooth, and clicks anywhere on the trackpad. I have not experienced any hiccups with the trackpad or keyboard. I cannot understand why Apple would put such a small trackpad on the MKB, and no shortcut keys either. For the higher price, you would expect a superior product and user experience. But just the opposite is true. In this case, you definitely get less and pay more. Don't get me wrong. I love Apple and the hardware products they make but you can find just as good if not better accessories for less elsewhere. IMO, the LCT is a better product for less $$ than the MKB.

Things I would miss if I had to give up the LCT.

1. Protection on the edges.
2. Being able to remove the backlit keyboard and still have iPad fully protected in a case with an adjustable kickstand.
3. The larger, multi touch click anywhere track pad. It's frigging amazing.
4. The material the MKB is made of smudges and marks up easily. The LCT material is tough and does not.
5. And probably my favorite, the really convenient full row of iPadOS shortcut keys.

I would not hesitate recommending the LCT to anyone looking for a great keyboard case for their iPad. I have not had anything but a good experience with it and many other Logitech products.

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I returned mine. I get the allure, but I disliked how much thicker and heavier it made my 11" iPad Pro feel. The kickstand also makes it seem to take up a lot more space than the smart / magic keyboard. The latter isn't perfect, but I am beginning to understand why Apple may have made the design tradeoffs that they did with the magic keyboard. The lack of function key row and the thinner trackpad made for a more compact form factor overall, and places my fingers closer to the screen.

I find I am still a fan of the Smart Keyboard, especially how the magnetic back lets me detach the iPad with ease, but I am really finding its evident lack of durability a turnoff, and I am at a point where I really cannot justify buying a new one every 1+ year.

And so my love-hate affair with iPad keyboard cases continues. 😕