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At least my Surface is getting all hot and throttles like crazy unless it’s plugged in. Pretty much from day one. The battery barely lasted 4 hours when new (forget the advertised “up to 16 hrs”).

The tablet functionality is horrible - it’s the combination of Windows not being well optimized to be used in a tablet mode, and the hardware quirks.

My use case is taking field notes, with many marked up photos, and marking up large PDFs (detailed layouts).

Here are some of the most glaring issues I ran into while trying to use Surface as a tablet. I have I7 with 32Gb memory so it’s not like it’s underpowered.

- Random lags and freezes
- Random, inexplicable changes in screen orientation, in the middle of me writing on it and without me moving the tablet.
- Alternatively, it often won’t change screen orientation when I rotate it. I have to do it a couple times.
- The loaded PDFs constantly refresh if I zoom in too much. Extremely annoying. Granted this is software related, but the only app that I tried so far that is somewhat stable is OneNote and it’s not perfect for PDF markup. Every other app that I tried (Inkodo, Scribl, Adobe) seems to have major memory or video memory issues.
- Taking photos and marking them up is a multi step process compared to iPad.
- Photo quality is bad, especially in a poorly lit, backlit or high contrast environment (which is pretty much the inside of every manufacturing facility).

And it’s heavy.

After a while, I just started taking my personal iPad everywhere. Despite having a lot less memory, it’s an entirely opposite experience in pretty much every way. It takes better photos, marking them up is just a tap away, it’s fluid and responsive, it changes screen orientation when I want it to and doesn’t change it when I don’t expect it to, it doesn’t choke on large PDFs, and the OS is optimized for touch.

So, if I can’t use Surface as a tablet, it’s just a laptop - with a terrible battery life, cramped keyboard, and a small screen.

By the way, I used to have an Acer 2-in-1 laptop (personal device) that was about 1/3rd the price of that Surface. It was actually a better tablet - it was still held back by W11 not being a true tablet OS, but the battery life was good and it didn’t lag nearly as badly despite having a quarter of RAM. I think there’s a lot of throttling going on behind the scenes, because of the small form factor and a hot, hungry CPU.
What Surface is this? The Intel 9? Saying i7 is pretty non-descriptive. A 32GB i7 could be a Surface Pro 8-11.

Battery life is very good on my ARM SP11, I don't get random changes in orientation, lags or freezes. You can activate rotation lock FYI. Marking up PDFs is good with Xodo.
 
What Surface is this? The Intel 9? Saying i7 is pretty non-descriptive. A 32GB i7 could be a Surface Pro 8-11.

Battery life is very good on my ARM SP11, I don't get random changes in orientation, lags or freezes. You can activate rotation lock FYI. Marking up PDFs is good with Xodo.
Intel, SP9. I hope they improved with ARM.

Rotation lock is added hassle when I have to change orientation every few minutes.

Did you try marking up large size, high resolution PDFs while zooming in to see fine details? Marking up regular documents works in any app.
 
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Intel, SP9. I hope they improved with ARM.

Rotation lock is added hassle when I have to change orientation every few minutes.

Did you try marking up large size, high resolution PDFs while zooming in to see fine details? Marking up regular documents works in any app.
How large is large? Know of a free example?

And thinking about it I bet a lot of your poor experience has to do with the crud loaded on by your work's IT department. That stuff brings everything to it's knees.
 
At least my Surface is getting all hot and throttles like crazy unless it’s plugged in. Pretty much from day one. The battery barely lasted 4 hours when new (forget the advertised “up to 16 hrs”).

The tablet functionality is horrible - it’s the combination of Windows not being well optimized to be used in a tablet mode, and the hardware quirks.

My use case is taking field notes, with many marked up photos, and marking up large PDFs (detailed layouts).

Here are some of the most glaring issues I ran into while trying to use Surface as a tablet. I have I7 with 32Gb memory so it’s not like it’s underpowered.

- Random lags and freezes
- Random, inexplicable changes in screen orientation, in the middle of me writing on it and without me moving the tablet.
- Alternatively, it often won’t change screen orientation when I rotate it. I have to do it a couple times.
- The loaded PDFs constantly refresh if I zoom in too much. Extremely annoying. Granted this is software related, but the only app that I tried so far that is somewhat stable is OneNote and it’s not perfect for PDF markup. Every other app that I tried (Inkodo, Scribl, Adobe) seems to have major memory or video memory issues.
- Taking photos and marking them up is a multi step process compared to iPad.
- Photo quality is bad, especially in a poorly lit, backlit or high contrast environment (which is pretty much the inside of every manufacturing facility).

And it’s heavy.

After a while, I just started taking my personal iPad everywhere. Despite having a lot less memory, it’s an entirely opposite experience in pretty much every way. It takes better photos, marking them up is just a tap away, it’s fluid and responsive, it changes screen orientation when I want it to and doesn’t change it when I don’t expect it to, it doesn’t choke on large PDFs, and the OS is optimized for touch.

So, if I can’t use Surface as a tablet, it’s just a laptop - with a terrible battery life, cramped keyboard, and a small screen.

By the way, I used to have an Acer 2-in-1 laptop (personal device) that was about 1/3rd the price of that Surface. It was actually a better tablet - it was still held back by W11 not being a true tablet OS, but the battery life was good and it didn’t lag nearly as badly despite having a quarter of RAM. I think there’s a lot of throttling going on behind the scenes, because of the small form factor and a hot, hungry CPU.
Oh yeah, the performance between the iPad and the Surface Pro is night and day difference. The iPad absolutely smokes the Surface Pro in my experience with display models. If you open enough things on the Surface Pro (now granted, it’s a display model, so likely not a high spec configuration), it will begin to stutter and get very hot. The fans kick on, and everything kind of starts to grind to a halt. The Qualcom version seemed a bit better performance wise, but still felt sluggish in several areas where even my older M1 iPad Pro just zips.

Yeah, the battery life seems very abysmal from everything I’ve read. The general consensus is that the advertised battery runtime for the Surface Pros is generally at least double what it actually gets, which is really pretty shoddy of Microsoft to make such big claims when you really can’t replicate those kinds of battery runtime with actual typical use… The iPad gets spectacular battery runtime. I think the biggest problem with the Surface Pro really boils down to Windows. Windows just isn’t well optimized for the hardware even beyond the lack of touch optimization, Windows isn’t well optimized to run on a device with that small of a battery, and neither are many apps. iPadOS is actually fully optimized to run on a tablet with a smaller battery than a laptop offers. And this is actually one of several reasons why slapping macOS on the iPad would be a bad idea, it would likely blow right through battery because of the lack of optimizations that iPadOS provides…

I actually recall a display model exhibiting that same screen rotation behavior. It was one I looked at probably a year or two ago. It was propped up on its kickstand with the keyboard attached, but the display kept wanting to switch orientation whenever I tapped on the keyboard case. It seems that they can be temperamental at times with that screen rotation. I don’t know if it’s a problem with the gyro sensor, or with the software, or both, but it seems to be a thing, at least on some. I haven’t consistently had that experience with display models though, so I’m guessing it probably doesn’t affect all.

Yeah, I think the keyboard on the iPad is better personally. Beyond the feel of the Magic Keyboard, which is very similar to the feel of the Magic Keyboard on Macs, the keyboard doesn’t bounce as you type. The Type Cover on the Surface Pro feels very bouncy to me. And you can absolutely forget using that thing on your lap. Between the kickstand being required to hold the Surface Pro up, and then the bouncy cover that can shift up and down on your lap and isn’t firm, it just really doesn’t work at all on the lap. You have to be working at a table or desk in order for that combination to work. Where the iPad Magic Keyboard case with the cantilever solution makes it possible to use on the lap. And I think even the 11” iPad model offers a better keyboard experience than the Surface Pro due to lack of bounciness, it’s able to be used on the lap, and even though the 11” has a bit narrower of a keyboard due to it being smaller, they trimmed the keys at the edges, which makes for a decent typing experience, even though it is a bit more cramped than a full-sized keyboard. The 13” model, the typing experience on that iPad feels much better than on the Surface Pro.

Overall, I think that unless you’re really sold on Windows, the Surface Pro is a pretty bad tablet experience. Back in 2021 when I bought my iPad, I actually was considering the Surface Pro as one of the options I was looking at because I had seen so many articles complaining about the iPad supposedly not being capable. But after doing lots of research, I decided against it and decided to try out the iPad instead, and if it wasn’t enough for my needs, I could always lean back on my Intel MacBook. But once I began using the iPad, my MacBook ended up going into storage, I was completely blown away by how capable iPadOS was after all the negative articles I came across denigrating it and claiming it was “only good for content consumption”… I initially expected that my iPad would be a companion to my Mac, but it outright completely replaced it, and actually made several major improvements to my workflow. iPadOS actually completely won me over. It’s so much more capable than many give it credit for, and I am so glad I didn’t decide to go off of the negative articles I came across when researching it. That’s actually part of why I got into SubStacking. I want to provide some more positive information for those who may be on the fence like I was. I want to provide some counterbalance to all of the negative content out there. And I also really enjoy writing about tech and the iPad because it’s something I’m passionate about. 👍🏻

To me, the Surface Pro just fundamentally feels like a laptop pretending to be a tablet that really can’t pull off either all that well. It makes for a bad tablet experience due to it’s thicker and clunkier build, poor battery runtime, non-optimized software, etc., and it makes for a bad laptop experience due to small battery, bouncy keyboard, no ability to use it on the lap with the keyboard cover (which is kind of literally in the name laptop), and it’s crammed internal components which leads to it getting hotter faster. That’s why I would really only recommend a Surface Pro to someone aware of the cons, and who is still sold on Windows and is okay with poor battery runtime and the thermal issues… And now at this point, I would strongly suggest against the Intel models, even though many softwares still have to run via emulation on the Qualcomm Surface Pros. The ARM chips definitely make an improvement on the heat, and I’ve heard they do make a bit of an improvement on battery runtime, though still nowhere near advertised battery runtimes. I think that also goes to show that much of the problem with battery runtime just inherently comes from lack of battery optimization on desktop OSes like Windows, an Android tablet with the same Qualcomm chip and a thinner chassis should provide far better battery runtime, and everything I’ve seen suggests it does. 👍🏻
 
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How large is large? Know of a free example
A D-size drawing.

And thinking about it I bet a lot of your poor experience has to do with the crud loaded on by your work's IT department. That stuff brings everything to it's knees.
It’s possible, but then I haven’t had any such issues with my previous laptop.
 
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Oh yeah, the performance between the iPad and the Surface Pro is night and day difference. The iPad absolutely smokes the Surface Pro in my experience with display models. If you open enough things on the Surface Pro (now granted, it’s a display model, so likely not a high spec configuration), it will begin to stutter and get very hot. The fans kick on, and everything kind of starts to grind to a halt. The Qualcom version seemed a bit better performance wise, but still felt sluggish in several areas where even my older M1 iPad Pro just zips.

I actually recall a display model exhibiting that same screen rotation behavior. It was one I looked at probably a year or two ago. It was propped up on its kickstand with the keyboard attached, but the display kept wanting to switch orientation whenever I tapped on the keyboard case. It seems that they can be temperamental at times with that screen rotation. I don’t know if it’s a problem with the gyro sensor, or with the software, or both, but it seems to be a thing, at least on some. I haven’t consistently had that experience with display models though, so I’m guessing it probably doesn’t affect all.

Yeah, I think the keyboard on the iPad is better personally. Beyond the feel of the Magic Keyboard, which is very similar to the feel of the Magic Keyboard on Macs, the keyboard doesn’t bounce as you type. The Type Cover on the Surface Pro feels very bouncy to me. And you can absolutely forget using that thing on your lap. Between the kickstand being required to hold the Surface Pro up, and then the bouncy cover that can shift up and down on your lap and isn’t firm, it just really doesn’t work at all on the lap. You have to be working at a table or desk in order for that combination to work. Where the iPad Magic Keyboard case with the cantilever solution makes it possible to use on the lap. And I think even the 11” iPad model offers a better keyboard experience than the Surface Pro due to lack of bounciness, it’s able to be used on the lap, and even though the 11” has a bit narrower of a keyboard due to it being smaller, they trimmed the keys at the edges, which makes for a decent typing experience, even though it is a bit more cramped than a full-sized keyboard. The 13” model, the typing experience on that iPad feels much better than on the Surface Pro.
Sorry, I have serious trouble believing you got the fans to kick on just opening apps. I have only ever gotten them on doing stuff like encoding videos or playing video games. I have the base model SP11 too FYI.

And if the keyboard case was attached, there is absolutely no way tapping the keyboard case was causing screen rotation. Screen rotation is locked on Windows 11 when the keyboard is attached. You can't rotate it without removing the keyboard.

I find it fine for typing on my lap. I'm doing that right now. The lip of the keyboard attaches the bottom bezel magnetically which makes it more stable. With the kickstand it's far better on the lap than the 2017 iPad Pro + smart keyboard I had. I have heard the newer iPad Pros with the Magic keyboard are pretty top heavy and so I can't see them being much better.
 
Sorry, I have serious trouble believing you got the fans to kick on just opening apps. I have only ever gotten them on doing stuff like encoding videos or playing video games. I have the base model SP11 too FYI.

And if the keyboard case was attached, there is absolutely no way tapping the keyboard case was causing screen rotation. Screen rotation is locked on Windows 11 when the keyboard is attached. You can't rotate it without removing the keyboard.

I find it fine for typing on my lap. I'm doing that right now. The lip of the keyboard attaches the bottom bezel magnetically which makes it more stable. With the kickstand it's far better on the lap than the 2017 iPad Pro + smart keyboard I had. I have heard the newer iPad Pros with the Magic keyboard are pretty top heavy and so I can't see them being much better.
I opened probably around 30 browser tabs quickly plus a bunch of other of the pre-installed apps that come on the Surface Pro. And I heard the fans kick on, they weren’t crazy loud, but you could faintly hear the hum. I know what experience I had with a display model at a store, thank you very much…

Same with the rotation lock issues, perhaps tapping on the keyboard was causing connection issues between the Surface Pro and the keyboard. Perhaps there was something wrong with the gyro sensor, or maybe it was a Windows bug. Who knows. I just know what I saw, and I said that was a one-off experience, so doesn’t seem to be an issue with all or necessarily even most Surface Pros, just one particular display model I saw at a store… And it should be noted that sometimes issues like that can be more prone to popping up on display models, since anyone can use and try them, and can be too rough on them. Again, I know what my experiences have been with display models…

And as I also said, I’m glad that you like it, and I’m glad that it works so well for you. For others, it’s just not nearly as good of a tablet experience because at the end of the day it basically isn’t a real tablet, it’s a laptop crammed into a chunkier somewhat tablet like frame with a fan built in and power hungry desktop OS that isn’t designed or optimized to run well on devices with a smaller battery. There are pros and cons. I think for some, the pro of Windows on it outweighs the other cons, but for others, those cons outweigh any benefits from Windows.

As to lapability, my older 11” iPad Pro which is more top heavy than the new 11” model is perfectly fine, it doesn’t feel top heavy at all. And the new 13” iPad Pro also feels very stable with the Magic Keyboard. I could tip the whole setup back quite a ways, and it still rested back flat when I released it.

Again, many of these things are subjective and preference based. I’m not saying you’re wrong for liking and using the Surface Pro. I’ve even recommended the Surface Pro to some people with very particular needs that would benefit from Windows on a “tablet”. But I also told them about the cons like reduced battery life and worse thermal performance so they would go in with a realistic idea of what they’re getting into. So they could meter their expectations accordingly. That way they don’t expect to get a whole day of work and gaming on it on a single charge. And so they don’t expect to run resource heavy apps like Blender, or even probably some photo editing softwares.

Again, I’m glad that the Surface Pro works well for you. It’s a good option for some people. But it isn’t a good option for everyone (just like the iPad isn’t the best option for everyone). And in my opinion, the Surface Pro doesn’t end up achieving a good tablet or laptop experience because of all of the compromises involved with it. That’s just my opinion from the display models I’ve had a chance to try out over the years. 👍🏻
 
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I’m making a pretty major upgrade to my remote accessible storage solution! I recently replaced one of the drives I use with my Mac Mini with a 1TB SSD I had that I pulled out of one of my old computers. The old drive was a 500GB internal SATA mechanical hard drive, and the new one is a Samsung 860 Evo I had installed in my older MacBook. It was just laying around un-used, so I cracked open the old MacBook and pulled the SSD out and swapped it with the old mechanical drive I had been using as external storage for my setup. So that will speed things up when I’m accessing files, and when I’m backing them up.

Unfortunately when I swapped the SSD into the external enclosure I had been using for the mechanical drive, I think I must have damaged the enclosure, because it now isn’t working. So I ordered a new enclosure which is much nicer than the plastic Sabrent one I had been using, and is aluminum. It’s also USB-C, which will be much more convenient. My old one had a proprietary port on the enclosure, so required an odd cable that was provided. And the cable was kind of short, so I tucked the enclosure behind my desk riser. Now I plan on having it on the shelf of the desk riser so it’s more accessible. 👍🏻. And maybe I’ll even decide to take it with me as mobile storage to use directly with my iPad occasionally, now that I’ll have a more durable enclosure, and an SSD rather than a mechanical hard drive. And now with it being USB-C that would also help. 👍🏻

If I like this enclosure, I may get some more for my other older SATA drives. The enclosure I got is on sale right now if any of you are interested. 👍🏻

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TQMWC2X/?coliid=I2P20B89DGYYJ7&colid=15J5ZNXLLV3U6&psc=0

PS. I also recently improved my monitor setup so that I can more easily dock my iPad with the monitor at my desk when I want to. My monitor has multiple input sources, so I added an additional HDMI cable, plugged it into a USB-C hub I had laying around, and plugged the end of the hub into a USB-C extension cable. A bit weird of a setup, I know, but it works for now. Eventually I want to just get an HDMI to USB-C cable, but I haven’t gotten around to that yet. But now I can easily bring my iPad, plug it into the USB-C extension cable (with a 90 degree end which works great with the iPad on the Magic Keyboard Case) and simply press the button on my monitor and change the input source. That’s so much easier and more convenient than unplugging the monitor from my Mac Mini every time! 😂👍🏻. Slowly but surely, my desk setup is getting less janky and more streamlined! 👍🏻
 
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I've traded in my M2 MBA for a Mac Mini M4 and have since used my 13" M4 IPP for a laptop replacement. For a long term review I felt it worked well for my use case and the only issue I've encountered so far is a weird sound quality issue with the IPP. In landscape mode where I've been using it most of the time connected to the Magic Keyboard, the speakers sound fine, however in portrait mode using it in bed or on the couch it sounds terrible. I have no idea why there's such a significant change in sound quality simply based on its orientation and have no idea how to fix it.
 
I've traded in my M2 MBA for a Mac Mini M4 and have since used my 13" M4 IPP for a laptop replacement. For a long term review I felt it worked well for my use case and the only issue I've encountered so far is a weird sound quality issue with the IPP. In landscape mode where I've been using it most of the time connected to the Magic Keyboard, the speakers sound fine, however in portrait mode using it in bed or on the couch it sounds terrible. I have no idea why there's such a significant change in sound quality simply based on its orientation and have no idea how to fix it.
Awesome! Welcome to the club! 👍🏻. I think the Mac Mini and iPad Pro are a great combination, I have an M1 iPad Pro and an M1 Mac Mini, and that combo works out great for me. 👍🏻. Though, in my case, my Mac Mini mostly now functions as an NAS for kind of like my own private cloud storage. I use the additional remote storage for things like backing up creative asset files I use. Otherwise, all of my work happens on the iPad now, I use it for all of my freelance graphic design work and 3D modeling/sculpting that I’ve more recently got into. 👍🏻

That sounds like a strange issue. I’ve never had that problem on my iPad. Perhaps it’s a software bug? Or maybe it’s internal hardware damage? Hopefully you figure out a solution, I wish I could be more helpful on that front. I can see about researching it and see if I find anything possibly helpful. 🙂👍🏻
 
I've traded in my M2 MBA for a Mac Mini M4 and have since used my 13" M4 IPP for a laptop replacement. For a long term review I felt it worked well for my use case and the only issue I've encountered so far is a weird sound quality issue with the IPP. In landscape mode where I've been using it most of the time connected to the Magic Keyboard, the speakers sound fine, however in portrait mode using it in bed or on the couch it sounds terrible. I have no idea why there's such a significant change in sound quality simply based on its orientation and have no idea how to fix it.
I tried looking it up to find any potential fixes, and this is all I found. As always, it’s the AI overview, so some suggested solutions may not work, but I do think some of those could make some sense and would be worth trying. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find anything else more helpful so far, but this might be helpful. 👍🏻 I hope you’re able to figure out a solution. 👍🏻

PS, the video it links at the bottom is just about cleaning the speakers on the iPad as far as I could tell from skimming through it. 👍🏻
 

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I tried looking it up to find any potential fixes, and this is all I found. As always, it’s the AI overview, so some suggested solutions may not work, but I do think some of those could make some sense and would be worth trying. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find anything else more helpful so far, but this might be helpful. 👍🏻 I hope you’re able to figure out a solution. 👍🏻

PS, the video it links at the bottom is just about cleaning the speakers on the iPad as far as I could tell from skimming through it. 👍🏻
I think my ears are just more sensitive to bass, in landscape connected to the keyboard the speakers are fine. But in portrait it just feels more bassy. That being said for my bookshelf speakers and floor speakers I also turn the bass down by a lot, so I am guessing that is true that more ears are more sensitive to bass. I just wish there was an equalizer for the iPad that works with all audio besides Apple Music.
 
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I think my ears are just more sensitive to bass, in landscape connected to the keyboard the speakers are fine. But in portrait it just feels more bassy. That being said for my bookshelf speakers and floor speakers I also turn the bass down by a lot, so I am guessing that is true that more ears are more sensitive to bass. I just wish there was an equalizer for the iPad that works with all audio besides Apple Music.
I’ve never bothered adjusting audio settings on my iPad, but I thought I remembered seeing EQ and audio options in Accessibility. Are those limited to Apple Music, or system wide? Maybe I can try looking through Settings again and see if I can find it. 👍🏻
 
I think my ears are just more sensitive to bass, in landscape connected to the keyboard the speakers are fine. But in portrait it just feels more bassy. That being said for my bookshelf speakers and floor speakers I also turn the bass down by a lot, so I am guessing that is true that more ears are more sensitive to bass. I just wish there was an equalizer for the iPad that works with all audio besides Apple Music.
Would this help?
 

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Actually now that I think about it, I might go home and try the Mono audio. I've lived with it for months and figured to just live with it. Thanks!
Awesome. 👍🏻. If there’s anything else you want some suggestions or ideas for with the iPad, I’m always happy to help where I can. 👍🏻. I write a SubStack that’s mostly iPad focused where I try to share helpful info and resources, so if you’re interested, you can check it out at https://kalebcadle.substack.com/. 👍🏻
 
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I've traded in my M2 MBA for a Mac Mini M4 and have since used my 13" M4 IPP for a laptop replacement. For a long term review I felt it worked well for my use case and the only issue I've encountered so far is a weird sound quality issue with the IPP. In landscape mode where I've been using it most of the time connected to the Magic Keyboard, the speakers sound fine, however in portrait mode using it in bed or on the couch it sounds terrible. I have no idea why there's such a significant change in sound quality simply based on its orientation and have no idea how to fix it.
I’ve been using my M2 MacBook Air as a desktop and just using my iPad as my laptop. I have Jump Desktop set up to remote connect to it from anywhere as long as I have internet access. I still really don’t think my Mac is needed, just nice to have something set up at the desk when I don’t have my iPad with me.

When my baby is old enough to use a computer, I’d likely replace the MacBook with a Mac mini or iMac, either is a little more suited as a family computer than the MacBook. That's still a few years away though.

I can’t really say I’ve had that sound issue with my iPad though. Admittedly I rarely use it in portrait anyway.
 
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Nice! Those stands look great! 👍🏻.
Thanks! The owner recently sent out an email detailing that they were planning on sending out free stands to a select few... and I was hoping to be part of the lucky ones. But unfortunately, I didn't make the cut.

So, I was debating on waiting it out for the iPad VESA mount (hasn't been released for the 13" iPad Pro) or go ahead buy this stand. Because I have one of those VESA mount adapters that I was going to alternative between using the MagFlott iPad VESA mount OR the portable monitor, but then I realize this was the better option.

I get a mount along with a stand.
 
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Awesome. 👍🏻. If there’s anything else you want some suggestions or ideas for with the iPad, I’m always happy to help where I can. 👍🏻. I write a SubStack that’s mostly iPad focused where I try to share helpful info and resources, so if you’re interested, you can check it out at https://kalebcadle.substack.com/. 👍🏻
I tried Mono mode, but it didn’t work. It actually made the landscape mode sound worse. The only thing that seems to fix it is ‘voice isolation,’ which works for things like news/vlogs however it degrades music quality. Thing is I've had people listen to it and they all think it's fine, I might just be OCD, because to me it sounded muffled. Overall it's not a deal breaker.

Edit: I think I've gone insane because I decided to record it to prove my point. While in real life it sounds terrible in portrait move, however in the videos they sound the same.

https://streamable.com/x3qzei Portrait

https://streamable.com/ew7d0o Landscape
 
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Thanks! The owner recently sent out an email detailing that they were planning on sending out free stands to a select few... and I was hoping to be part of the lucky ones. But unfortunately, I didn't make the cut.

So, I was debating on waiting it out for the iPad VESA mount (hasn't been released for the 13" iPad Pro) or go ahead buy this stand. Because I have one of those VESA mount adapters that I was going to alternative between using the MagFlott iPad VESA mount OR the portable monitor, but then I realize this was the better option.

I get a mount along with a stand.
Yeah, that makes sense. And I’ve always liked those kinds of stands. I’ve thought about buying or making a stand like that for my desk, but if I did magnetic, I would probably wait until I upgrade to the M4. I’m excited to hear what you think about it!

I’ve actually made a few improvements with my desk setup, and I will be making some more soon, so I may share some pics once I get my new SSD enclosure and stuff set up. 👍🏻. And I’m adding some white panels on the outside of my 3D printer enclosure, so that should help make everything brighter and less cave-like. 👍🏻.
 
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Yeah, that makes sense. And I’ve always liked those kinds of stands. I’ve thought about buying or making a stand like that for my desk, but if I did magnetic, I would probably wait until I upgrade to the M4. I’m excited to hear what you think about it!
I'll share my thoughts later on today or tomorrow.

I’ve actually made a few improvements with my desk setup, and I will be making some more soon, so I may share some pics once I get my new SSD enclosure and stuff set up. 👍🏻. And I’m adding some white panels on the outside of my 3D printer enclosure, so that should help make everything brighter and less cave-like. 👍🏻.
Looking forward to checking it out. And I made some changes to my desk... I'll show mine soon!
 
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Just picked up my (open box) IPP 13 M4, and MKB (black). I had a M1 12.9 and white MKB. This combo is much better. Lighter plus the keys are more comfortable at least for me, as the M1 MKB made my joints ache. (Almost 72 year old here). I have a 15 inch Skyblue MBA arriving tomorrow to replace the M1 MBA yet now I am wondering if I really need the laptop. My use cases don’t really involve any heavy use. Plus the display is just very nice. The newer MKB is almost as comfortable as my MBA was. Almost.
 
I'll share my thoughts later on today or tomorrow.


Looking forward to checking it out. And I made some changes to my desk... I'll show mine soon!
Awesome, I’m looking forward to hearing how it’s working out for you, and seeing your new desk setup! 👍🏻

I will probably be sharing another picture or two when I get the new drive setup finished, but I decided to share a quick photo with some of the changes I’ve made so far. 👍🏻. I did away with the big clunky wired keyboard for the Mac Mini, and am back to using the old bluetooth keyboard I have for logging into it, and when I don’t need it, I can conveniently store it under the desk riser. Eventually I probably will replace that bluetooth keyboard with another one, that way I can still use the Mac Mini for something if I happen to be at my desk without my iPad, but I’ve been using Universal Control quite a bit. 👍🏻. It’s been extremely convenient having it set up to connect automatically! 👍🏻. I still haven’t gotten a chance to try one of those apps for logging into my Mac Mini, but I will be interested in trying it out and seeing how it works out! 👍🏻

I also am putting up some white panels on the outside of my 3D printer enclosure, which makes the space feel so much nicer! And I’ve been enjoying more readily docking my iPad with my monitor! I was just using it in that setup to test a couple things out! 👍🏻
 

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