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iPad as a laptop replacement
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So my kids have phones (non cellular-use like ipods), tablets & laptops (2 boys have gaming desktops as well). So the computers are for games & the mobile devices are for everything else.
Until a few months ago, my main device was my computer. I dO have an android tablet, 2015 IPP, iphone and Apple watch. I mainly used the tablets when I was away from my desk. I have been pretty much tied to my desk for about 13 years. I did everything from it.
Then cell phones / smartphones came out.... wow now I don't have to be tied to my desk all the time. But they were too small to use as my computer. Next came tablets. wow now I can do a lot more on a bigger screen. One thing I learned. is something work better in- the browser, ie WordPress than - the app.
Then a few years ago, I got a Surface Pro 3. that changed a lot of things for me. But it was slower than my i7 desktop with lb gb ram. But after QC issues with original and 2 replacements. I eventually got my 12.9 iPad Pro. The surface had a great pen, but the pencil was more amazing. I still did not use it that often. But it was my portable computer like device.
Jump forward to this summer. I stayed several months with my sons (remodeling our house). I did not have a computer with me. I spent long hours working on- the house. But I read emails during breakfast, google searches on remodeling things., and watched shows on the IPP.
when I got home, my nice desktop was crashing ALL the time. Multiple times a day. Ended up doing a fresh install of windows on an SSD. Better, but I was not happy with it. Because I now owned a bunch of Apple devices, I thought "what about a mac"? So I spent awhile researching... then waiting for the new ones to come out. I did not want to spend that much money on "old" tech.
So I spent a few months only using my tablets-gave my desktop to one of my sons. I discovered I could do "most"of my computing stuff (graphic designer) on my 2015 IPP. But it is a bit slow on some things. Now I have the new 12.9"as well. Yes there is a learning curve. I am having to be creative in how I do things. look for new apps, new keyboard shortcuts. But it is doable for me. I think it is what I want to do. So I want to "make"it work. But there are a" few" things I can't do. But I don't want to give up my IPP. It is a great device-but I don't want it sitting in the back corner gathering dust. So I am trying hard to find workarounds.
I am not the younger generation- but I have always loved new tech... I am always trying to tweak what I do to make it better -more efficient and improved. Some days (or hours), I am ready to send ing ipp back, but then I read something reminding me of what "all" it 'can' do... now I just have to find something to overcome the "flash" hurdle.
Until a few months ago, my main device was my computer. I dO have an android tablet, 2015 IPP, iphone and Apple watch. I mainly used the tablets when I was away from my desk. I have been pretty much tied to my desk for about 13 years. I did everything from it.
Then cell phones / smartphones came out.... wow now I don't have to be tied to my desk all the time. But they were too small to use as my computer. Next came tablets. wow now I can do a lot more on a bigger screen. One thing I learned. is something work better in- the browser, ie WordPress than - the app.
Then a few years ago, I got a Surface Pro 3. that changed a lot of things for me. But it was slower than my i7 desktop with lb gb ram. But after QC issues with original and 2 replacements. I eventually got my 12.9 iPad Pro. The surface had a great pen, but the pencil was more amazing. I still did not use it that often. But it was my portable computer like device.
Jump forward to this summer. I stayed several months with my sons (remodeling our house). I did not have a computer with me. I spent long hours working on- the house. But I read emails during breakfast, google searches on remodeling things., and watched shows on the IPP.
when I got home, my nice desktop was crashing ALL the time. Multiple times a day. Ended up doing a fresh install of windows on an SSD. Better, but I was not happy with it. Because I now owned a bunch of Apple devices, I thought "what about a mac"? So I spent awhile researching... then waiting for the new ones to come out. I did not want to spend that much money on "old" tech.
So I spent a few months only using my tablets-gave my desktop to one of my sons. I discovered I could do "most"of my computing stuff (graphic designer) on my 2015 IPP. But it is a bit slow on some things. Now I have the new 12.9"as well. Yes there is a learning curve. I am having to be creative in how I do things. look for new apps, new keyboard shortcuts. But it is doable for me. I think it is what I want to do. So I want to "make"it work. But there are a" few" things I can't do. But I don't want to give up my IPP. It is a great device-but I don't want it sitting in the back corner gathering dust. So I am trying hard to find workarounds.
I am not the younger generation- but I have always loved new tech... I am always trying to tweak what I do to make it better -more efficient and improved. Some days (or hours), I am ready to send ing ipp back, but then I read something reminding me of what "all" it 'can' do... now I just have to find something to overcome the "flash" hurdle.
In general I agree with this, but I don't think that the example is a good one as no one brings their laptops at the groceries stores. We all use smartphones or mini tablets there.
Nevertheless I agree that most kids currently use phones or tablets and not a computer. However they also don't have the need currently for a desktop computer or laptop.
Agree that most kids currently don't know what Windows/MacOS is. However still we have to consider their usage up to now. Most probably they did not use MacOS/Windows device because they did not need to.
That does sound like a good plan for Apple. The question is can they have provide those apps until then. It depends which year is their target. As of now there are students (for example software engineers and engineers in general) that cannot use the iPad as their only device. They need software that currently do not exist for iPads.
Then again most users do not think about mobile browser and desktop browser. In that sense the iPads are a small contradiction. I have not used iOS that much but honestly this OS is made for people that do not want to tweak or change things. If people want to change things, iOS would be frustrating for at least 30 % of those people. So the moment you take out this of the equation you are left with big amount of people that have no idea that there is mobile and desktop version of a browser, let alone request to use the desktop version. For those people it's pretty simple. They either can open the site on an iPad or not. If they use 5 sites and 1 one of them is not working on iPad they are OK. If they use 5 sites and 4 of them are not OK then iPad is not OK. It's like that.
Agreed, if by "any tablet" you actually mean "any pure tablet". You can certainly do "real business work" on 2-in-1 devices that can function as a tablet and also function as a full-featured laptop, such as the Microsoft Surface line and many other similar devices.
In fact, my aging and soon to be retired Dell Venue 8 Pro, at only 8", can do a large range of real work. With full mouse, keyboard, scanner, and printer abilities I've been able to work remote without major issues, though for the heavy lifting I've had to rely on Teamviewer connecting to my "real compters" (iMac at work or Dell XPS tower at home) to do significant Ps work.
So today I was in 3 hours meeting with only my iPad. I had to however work on a presentation for a work meeting tomorrow. Here is what I did and what was my impression:
1. I used OneDrive for storage place so that I can work on the presentation on my work (desktop), home computer and on the iPad
2. I have to use Powerpoint as company computers are Windows and not Macs
3. I created placeholder slides for everything I wanted to put in the presentation (I already had worked on the content) during the meeting. I also put some notes for details that I want to include in each slide
4. For the actual slides I needed smart graphics and animations. iPad Powerpoint version is crippled so I used an app to remotely access my work desktop and started doing the graphics and the animations there. It took me 20 minutes to do one graphic, animations was difficult to be done
5. I finished the presentation on my work desktop and did the 27 slides there (with animations and graphics in 24 of them).
So yeah when it comes to stuff like that, I always prefer the laptop/desktop experience where I have multiple screen, bigger hardware keyboard and mouse/trackpad. And of course desktop versions of the apps.
[doublepost=1542824349][/doublepost]Interesting video -
I agree with his assessment.
1. I used OneDrive for storage place so that I can work on the presentation on my work (desktop), home computer and on the iPad
2. I have to use Powerpoint as company computers are Windows and not Macs
3. I created placeholder slides for everything I wanted to put in the presentation (I already had worked on the content) during the meeting. I also put some notes for details that I want to include in each slide
4. For the actual slides I needed smart graphics and animations. iPad Powerpoint version is crippled so I used an app to remotely access my work desktop and started doing the graphics and the animations there. It took me 20 minutes to do one graphic, animations was difficult to be done
5. I finished the presentation on my work desktop and did the 27 slides there (with animations and graphics in 24 of them).
So yeah when it comes to stuff like that, I always prefer the laptop/desktop experience where I have multiple screen, bigger hardware keyboard and mouse/trackpad. And of course desktop versions of the apps.
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Yeah I like how he said that there are indeed people that can do real work on the iPad. It's all a matter of what real work means for different people. I also like the fact that he specifically mentioned few categories for people that not only can do real work on an iPad, but in fact iPad could easily win over laptop. That is true. I mean honestly doing digital art on a computer with a mouse would be a nightmare. Sure you can have Wacom tablet, but I assume iPad offers similar experience and on top of it it's portable and you are not dependent on a computer.
It's just there are other people that are not that lucky.
I have a wacom tablet - it is not that old, but it was having a lot of issues with windows drivers. I actually prefer the Apple Pencil for the work I used it for. Before, I even used the wacom pen for all my “mouse” needs. But once it started acting up, I did get a cheap mouse.
Hopefully Apple will update iOS so it can benefit other pro users!
Hopefully Apple will update iOS so it can benefit other pro users!
Yeah, we will see. Sucks that you had issues with the Wacom tablet. I assume you are now going fully on iPad Pro so you don't need to use the Wacom at all. As far as feel goes which stylus do you prefer? I have not tried anything before Apple Pencil so I don't know what is considered good experience and what not.
I know that I need sort of skin for the pencil because without it I don't have good grip on it and this causes strain for my wrist due to the way I grasp it. I assume the second generation of the pencil helps there.
Yea if I go with a computer instead, I will probably have to get a new wacom tablet.... I really prefer the pencil. Maybe it has to do with drawing on the screen. I do somewhat miss the programmable buttons.
I have small hands, so I like the pencil - I see all kinds of grips etc. I am sure there are some that would work great.
I may have muscle cofusion because I am using both pencils - one on my old 12.9 and the new one on my new 12.9. In a sense, I prefer the old one, but I love all the new features on the new one - charging etc.
I have small hands, so I like the pencil - I see all kinds of grips etc. I am sure there are some that would work great.
I may have muscle cofusion because I am using both pencils - one on my old 12.9 and the new one on my new 12.9. In a sense, I prefer the old one, but I love all the new features on the new one - charging etc.
I'm close to admitting defeat and returning the iPad I'm afraid. The "little" cons are frequent ones which occur the whole time as part of my workflow and are becoming big annoyances.
Can I do my current workflow on an iPad Pro - the answer is definitely a yes.
Can I do it as efficiently as I can on macOS? Unfortunately its still a no. And that means I'm taking longer to do things which over time means its less efficient and even less enjoyable.
I did some side by side stuff on the iPad Pro and a MacBook - the difference in speed when it comes to certain tasks is night and day. Obviously the poor multi-tasking implementation on the iPad is well documented, but even with improvements in iOS, when I try to quickly switch to another app and somehow link this app with another - be it through sharing information (I still find selecting text very clunky) or flipping between the two quickly, it just feels like I'm wading through treacle.
The hardware is amazing. FaceID is brilliantly implemented (although the camera position is starting to grate due to the amount of time my hand is covering the sensor). Unfortunately, iOS is lagging behind. I've said it before, I don't think just adding a pointing device of some sort is necessarily the answer - I'm sure there's much more clever ways to solve this problem.
It definitely feels like we now need a ground-up version of iOS for the iPad Pro line which will include desktop-class apps - Safari is a great example of this.
I'll say it again, the hardware is amazing and its a shame the laptops seem to be lagging behind so much.
Can I do my current workflow on an iPad Pro - the answer is definitely a yes.
Can I do it as efficiently as I can on macOS? Unfortunately its still a no. And that means I'm taking longer to do things which over time means its less efficient and even less enjoyable.
I did some side by side stuff on the iPad Pro and a MacBook - the difference in speed when it comes to certain tasks is night and day. Obviously the poor multi-tasking implementation on the iPad is well documented, but even with improvements in iOS, when I try to quickly switch to another app and somehow link this app with another - be it through sharing information (I still find selecting text very clunky) or flipping between the two quickly, it just feels like I'm wading through treacle.
The hardware is amazing. FaceID is brilliantly implemented (although the camera position is starting to grate due to the amount of time my hand is covering the sensor). Unfortunately, iOS is lagging behind. I've said it before, I don't think just adding a pointing device of some sort is necessarily the answer - I'm sure there's much more clever ways to solve this problem.
It definitely feels like we now need a ground-up version of iOS for the iPad Pro line which will include desktop-class apps - Safari is a great example of this.
I'll say it again, the hardware is amazing and its a shame the laptops seem to be lagging behind so much.
Makes sense.
Yeah. Unfortunately grips are not sold where I am so I have to order from Amazon which means that I have to pay for delivery more as well. I will try to find also something else so that it makes to order you know.
Interesting. In which cases you prefer the old one?
Only you can answer this question for yourself, the rest of us can only give our opinions based on how we work.
That being said, it can take months before you really acclimate to the new workflow. You're probably talking about retraining your muscle memory that has spent YEARS doing something one way and now you're trying to do it another.
I hate the limitations of iOS, I really do. Even Cmd-Tab is S-L-O-W for switching between tasks and copy/paste after all these years is brutal. But I've been using my iPad as a primary device for over year and I still like iOS more than other operating systems. I'll be selling my 12-inch MacBook soon because I really don't like macOS much these days (I typically use Linux or iOS). It's taken me awhile but I've managed to get things setup quite nicely for how I work.
All I'll say is an iPad Pro does not replace a MacBook Pro and I have both the latest and enjoy them both for what they are.
I’ve been using the 10.5 with Smart Keyboard and Apple Pencil for the last 14 days and put my MBP away - to see if I could switch.
To my surprise, I got used to it real quick and find that I actually get more work done on this iPad.
Main reason is the “poor” multi-tasking ability, which essentially forces me to do one thing at a time - and it turns out I get more done because I’m not jumping back and forth between applications! the split screen works great for taking notes or replying to emails while having Bear open for example.
I love the form factor, easy to carry around, light and great battery life.
What I mainly use it for:
* Writing - Bear, Google Docs
* Music - Spotify (and AirPods)
* Email - Apple Mail, Gmail app
* Project management - Asana, Basecamp
* Facebook Ads - Chrome, Safari
* Social Media - Whatever Apps
* File management - Dropbox, Google Drive.
* Reading - Kindle, iBooks, PDF reader
I also like the fact that I can just carry one small charger which lets me charge both my iPad and iPhone.
To my surprise, I got used to it real quick and find that I actually get more work done on this iPad.
Main reason is the “poor” multi-tasking ability, which essentially forces me to do one thing at a time - and it turns out I get more done because I’m not jumping back and forth between applications! the split screen works great for taking notes or replying to emails while having Bear open for example.
I love the form factor, easy to carry around, light and great battery life.
What I mainly use it for:
* Writing - Bear, Google Docs
* Music - Spotify (and AirPods)
* Email - Apple Mail, Gmail app
* Project management - Asana, Basecamp
* Facebook Ads - Chrome, Safari
* Social Media - Whatever Apps
* File management - Dropbox, Google Drive.
* Reading - Kindle, iBooks, PDF reader
I also like the fact that I can just carry one small charger which lets me charge both my iPad and iPhone.
The reasoning is beyond believable. If you worked with multiple applications and windows, it was probably because it is the best way. iPad is nothing closer to getting work done than the very first iPad in my opinion.
I am so excited for going surface and never again have to buy two devices when one can do it all. If it is not a 2 in 1 in 2018 it is obsolete to me.
How is my own reason for doing something with my own workflow beyond believable? I'm getting more done because I'm not multi-tasking and getting lost in doing 9 different things at the same time.
Also, had a Surfacebook at the beginning of the year. Just can't do Windows anymore.
8nteresring, waiting for a UK price drop. I see you have one from your sig, how would you rate it?
My review of trying the IPP12.9 as a laptop replacement. I own the 13” 2018MBP which in hindsight might have been a pretty uncessesary investment.
General review: Really sweet machine, love the 12.9 form factor.
Keyboard takes some getting used to and frankly apple really needs to improve the situation for us non-English keyboard typing in English people. But eventually it seems to be working ok, but I still don’t trust it or really understand how to switch input and autocomplete language with the keyboard plugged in. And so many apps which don’t have support for keyboard control. And can I even change input speed?
Apps for productivity: I tried to do what I need to do and it seems I can get it done.
Watching movies: Netflix+Moviebox+Spotify+YouTube pro should cover my needs.
Typing: The keyboard is fast enough and I like Gboard for touch typing.
Multitasking: It seems I can get done what I want. Some bad behaviors I had on my MBP such as randomly switching between tabs and reloading social media is a bit slower, which makes me do less of that. So I think this limitation will have a positive impact on me.
Flaws: So many apps are not optimized for iPad and you get a rotated low resolution iPhone version of it. Can’t believe that some of the big companies who’s iPhone app is so important for them would do such lousy iPad versions. Hopefully this will improve with time.
In conclusion. I already feel comfortable using the iPad as my primary computer and will not bring my laptop on my next months long travel. I expect to become even more comfortable with the experience over time. I still have some things I need to migrate but that should be doable. It is an interesting experience learning this new way interacting with a computer, but it feels right.
Would recommend!
General review: Really sweet machine, love the 12.9 form factor.
Keyboard takes some getting used to and frankly apple really needs to improve the situation for us non-English keyboard typing in English people. But eventually it seems to be working ok, but I still don’t trust it or really understand how to switch input and autocomplete language with the keyboard plugged in. And so many apps which don’t have support for keyboard control. And can I even change input speed?
Apps for productivity: I tried to do what I need to do and it seems I can get it done.
Watching movies: Netflix+Moviebox+Spotify+YouTube pro should cover my needs.
Typing: The keyboard is fast enough and I like Gboard for touch typing.
Multitasking: It seems I can get done what I want. Some bad behaviors I had on my MBP such as randomly switching between tabs and reloading social media is a bit slower, which makes me do less of that. So I think this limitation will have a positive impact on me.
Flaws: So many apps are not optimized for iPad and you get a rotated low resolution iPhone version of it. Can’t believe that some of the big companies who’s iPhone app is so important for them would do such lousy iPad versions. Hopefully this will improve with time.
In conclusion. I already feel comfortable using the iPad as my primary computer and will not bring my laptop on my next months long travel. I expect to become even more comfortable with the experience over time. I still have some things I need to migrate but that should be doable. It is an interesting experience learning this new way interacting with a computer, but it feels right.
Would recommend!
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I watched two video from Jonathan Morrison: I tried to edit an ENTIRE video on iPad Pro... and How the iPad Pro is CHANGING music production . This kinda changed my mind about iPad in general.
When people ask if iPad can replace a laptop, a lot of people point to the missing file system or the lack of mouse support for example, trying to mimic exactly what a laptop does.
The point is that iPad is about apps and a new type of workflow that comes with them. When you find the right app, you can completely change the way you do your work.
What these videos show is that if you focus on one type of work, video and music in this case, and use the right accessories (like the MIDI keyboard) and apps, you can definitely do what you do on a laptop. In some ways better (as the videos show).
I know for a lot of people here, iPad still has shortcomings and cannot fully replace a laptop. But these two videos bring new perspective to iPad as a powerful creative tool. I'm hoping to add iPad to my workflow in the future.
Edit: Also watch this video where you can actually see them mix the song and use iPad.
When people ask if iPad can replace a laptop, a lot of people point to the missing file system or the lack of mouse support for example, trying to mimic exactly what a laptop does.
The point is that iPad is about apps and a new type of workflow that comes with them. When you find the right app, you can completely change the way you do your work.
What these videos show is that if you focus on one type of work, video and music in this case, and use the right accessories (like the MIDI keyboard) and apps, you can definitely do what you do on a laptop. In some ways better (as the videos show).
I know for a lot of people here, iPad still has shortcomings and cannot fully replace a laptop. But these two videos bring new perspective to iPad as a powerful creative tool. I'm hoping to add iPad to my workflow in the future.
Edit: Also watch this video where you can actually see them mix the song and use iPad.
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In general I agree with you. There should be videos like that to show that for certain type of work iPad is an awesome device. I would not say that I need file system because I am used to the laptop experience. I need file system for other stuff. I don't use file system just to access files, I use file system to check storage, I use file system to decide on what to delete and what to keep. For example right now my iPad can't be backed up because there is not enough storage on the iCloud drive. However I had no idea knowing what takes so much time and how I can improve this. I refuse to buy more storage and I would not do that.
It is true that it's about finding the right apps (if such exist). However I disagree with completely changing my workflow. I should not do this to work with a device. The device should do it for me. I do not have the time nor the desire nor the energy to completely change my workflow and pay for apps to complete my workflow when I can use free apps on my laptop. That would not happen for me. I don't see any motivation to do it either. It's not about what is possible and what is not for me. In most cases is why should I do this. As of now nothing motivates me to completely change my workflow. Tweak it yes. Change it completely - definitely a hell no from me.
Yes, an iPad can help you being efficient when it comes to design, video or music producing. However that has been known. What an iPad lacks is apps for doing Software Development, working with Microsoft Office and efficient multi tasking. And that has been known fact as well. And this is what people are talking about.
Yes iPad works great for creative people when it comes to design, video, music. Not so great when it comes to using Microsoft Office.
The file system is something I’m actually not completely sure about. I can’t fully defend Apple’s decision to not include it and also not allow external storage. I can see reasons why, but also the problems it creates. Maybe it's possible to just enable the parts of that system that allow users to do specific tasks without opening up as much as macOS does. Just like how the USB-C port can only be used for specific devices without compromising security (or whatever Apple's reason is).
That's not what I meant, with changing the workflow I mean using iPad for a better workflow in the way it’s meant to be used. Let iPad be what it is and then see how it can be used for your use case. No forcing, that's never good.
I think there’s issues that are a result of the iPad’s philosophy and issues that are just minor. For example some people mention the lack of mouse support as one of their issues with iPad, that’s obviously not going to change and just means you’re looking at iPad the wrong way.
I don’t know what exactly your problem is with Office nor do I know much about software development, but if it’s just about the apps itself then that’s more about the developers than the platform itself. Not sure what the problem with multitasking is either, couldn't that be resolved by a software update?
Software may have shortcomings, some apps may be lacking, but as far as iPad as a concept goes; I see much more potential for it now than I did a couple of years ago. The hardware has gotten insanely great and apps are getting more powerful every year, with some (from the videos) being arguably more powerful than they were on a desktop/laptop.
This.
I am all for change if it genuinely provides me with a better experience and output. As it stands, the iPad doesn't do any of the productivity tasks that I do.
Video editing
Can it be done: yes - in a somewhat limited capacity (lumafusion is a great app but doesn't do what I do in Final Cut any better nor does it offer me anything over final cut - no real advantage)
Is there any benefit over a laptop: nope.
What are the pro's of using the iPad then for video editing: :/ - because I can [at a premium]!
Writing
Can it be done: yes
Is there any benefit over a laptop: nope.
What are the pro's of using the iPad then for writing: see above. If your going to write short tweets or Facebook updates, I guess it covers you well. Imagine writing a thesis, a school/work project and having to rely on just the one screen at a time and not being able to open up multiple files from the same app (oh wait, there will be someone on here telling you to jump in hoops in order to achieve a basic task which one shouldn't be concerned about in this day in age - see @secretk 's original post).
In addition to this, the keyboard case which Apple sells is a pile of garbage. It's been selling laptops for donkies now and should know the ergonomics of a laptop and how people like to adjust the screen to the situation they are in. The fact they are selling a keyboard close to £200 with no fundamental basic functionality is baffling.
Would you still like to write on an iPad? Go and configure an iPad and enjoy
And the list goes on:
- small screen vs multi screen setup people are used to these days
- file system
- mobile websites
This.
I am all for change if it genuinely provides me with a better experience and output. As it stands, the iPad doesn't do any of the productivity tasks that I do.
Video editing
Can it be done: yes - in a somewhat limited capacity (lumafusion is a great app but doesn't do what I do in Final Cut any better nor does it offer me anything over final cut - no real advantage)
Is there any benefit over a laptop: nope.
What are the pro's of using the iPad then for video editing: :/ - because I can [at a premium]!
Writing
Can it be done: yes
Is there any benefit over a laptop: nope.
What are the pro's of using the iPad then for writing: see above. If your going to write short tweets or Facebook updates, I guess it covers you well. Imagine writing a thesis, a school/work project and having to rely on just the one screen at a time and not being able to open up multiple files from the same app (oh wait, there will be someone on here telling you to jump in hoops in order to achieve a basic task which one shouldn't be concerned about in this day in age - see @secretk 's original post).
In addition to this, the keyboard case which Apple sells is a pile of garbage. It's been selling laptops for donkies now and should know the ergonomics of a laptop and how people like to adjust the screen to the situation they are in. The fact they are selling a keyboard close to £200 with no fundamental basic functionality is baffling.
Would you still like to write on an iPad? Go and configure an iPad and enjoy
And the list goes on:
As seen from the above, the iPad does nothing to enhance the experience. Apple used to be able to figure out problems, make things better but in this case its lost its way - and marketing it as a replacement is mind blowing.
- small screen vs multi screen setup people are used to these days
- file system
- mobile websites
On the video editing, have you seen the video I linked to? I’m not trying to convince you to switch to iPad, but I’m curious what you think about his findings.