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iPad Pro iPad design: needs to significantly evolve. Surface Pro X has it beat.
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Its obvious if you have any clue. Both tablets have more or less the same screen dimensions and the hardware has similar builds and features. Only major difference is the kickstand vs none. They are both fanless and their SOC use approx the same amount of power (so no extra cooling required compared to the Intel surface pro which requires a large heatsink).
Where is that extra 150g coming from?
You can't escape physics. A built-in kickstand will add extra weight and thickness to the iPad. Either that or you'll have to sacrifice battery life to retain the same weight and thinness.
I’m not saying it’s not coming from there but there is no direct evidence to support that it does.
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Your logic is erroneous. You imply that a feature like a built-in kickstand should not be done because it will add thickness and weight.
That isn’t the approach to product design and development. You have to design the whole product. Your discourse erroneously presupposes that Apple is incapable of designing and engineering a built-in kickstand into a product where they achieve similar, identical, or even lighter and thinner devices with comparable battery life.
And even if it did add a slight increase in weight or thickness, the benefit may be deemed worth it.
How many people even on this forum have asked for thicker iPhones for better battery life? Lots. Apple has also made later generation devices thicker, like the Apple Watch.
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You may want to ensure you are replying to the correct person, your reply has nothing to do with my statement. Remember what I said about making mistakes due to lack of information?
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My reply has everything to do with your statements.
And I will also repeat:
Objective kickstand reality: NOT OPINION.
1. The kickstand has near infinite degrees of freedom, so you can angle and anchor the tablet in many ways. Compare this to cases for the iPad, for instance. These generally do not have hardly any degrees of freedom (several only 1 or 2). And they wobble with use. This isn’t as functionally effective as the kickstand is.
2. Cases for the iPad, for instance, add weight and thickness to the device. And with the new iPad Pro design, cases generally must wrap around the back of the device as well.
3. Being forced to buy a case to have prop up functionality means spending extra money. This is not necessary with a built-in kickstand.
4. When a person doesn’t want to use the case on their iPad, they have to take it off and then the problem becomes storing this extra thing that is really substantial when talking about the iPad Pro 12.9. The case here is similar to a complete other tablet in terms of its weight, thickness, and footprint. This is not required for a device that has a built-in kickstand.
Please. No built-in kickstand for iPad.
K.I.S.S.
(Keep.It.Simple.Stupid)
K.I.S.S.
(Keep.It.Simple.Stupid)
But I never mentioned any of that. How can you post a reply of points about something I never mentioned? Do you even read a post before replying to it? I’m beginning to think you don’t quite understand how to conduct a group discussion. Please don’t waste our time unless you understand what is taking place, which you seemingly don’t.
I like the idea of the kickstand... especially when it's on a desk/table/counter.
However, on the lap it's utterly useless. The gap created by it seems to perfectly open up above my knees, which means that it isn't propping anything up.
I prefer the Pen snapping on the side, which Apple copied and made charge from there.
I still feel like these are 2 totally different products, and hard to compare against one another. But that gap does seem to be narrowing. Even still though, Microsoft has nearly perfected this as a laptop killer. They're basically Thunderbolt 3 away from that, and why it isn't there is inexcusable now. And the iPad is the perfect media consumption device that has some laptop replacement potential, but isn't a laptop replacement. I mean, that just is... the app availability for simple jumps into the media is what it does with flying colors. Magazines, newspapers, video...
However, on the lap it's utterly useless. The gap created by it seems to perfectly open up above my knees, which means that it isn't propping anything up.
I prefer the Pen snapping on the side, which Apple copied and made charge from there.
I still feel like these are 2 totally different products, and hard to compare against one another. But that gap does seem to be narrowing. Even still though, Microsoft has nearly perfected this as a laptop killer. They're basically Thunderbolt 3 away from that, and why it isn't there is inexcusable now. And the iPad is the perfect media consumption device that has some laptop replacement potential, but isn't a laptop replacement. I mean, that just is... the app availability for simple jumps into the media is what it does with flying colors. Magazines, newspapers, video...
Yup, two totally different devices. I’m reminded of this video despite the fact that it is a year old now:
Want a kickstand on your ipad tablet then buy a case with a kickstand. Want a tablet with your surface buy a surface and an ipad lol
You haven’t pointed anything specific out. I’ve addressed your comments about this being an opinion: it’s not just an opinion.
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The SPX narrows the gap between the iPad Pro and itself. This thread is not about other Surfaces. It’s mainly focused on the SPX.
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Objective kickstand reality.
1. The kickstand has near infinite degrees of freedom, so you can angle and anchor the tablet in many ways. Compare this to cases for the iPad, for instance. These generally do not have hardly any degrees of freedom (several only 1 or 2). And they wobble with use. This isn’t as functionally effective as the kickstand is.
2. Cases for the iPad, for instance, add weight and thickness to the device. And with the new iPad Pro design, cases generally must wrap around the back of the device as well.
3. Being forced to buy a case to have prop up functionality means spending extra money. This is not necessary with a built-in kickstand.
4. When a person doesn’t want to use the case on their iPad, they have to take it off and then the problem becomes storing this extra thing that is really substantial when talking about the iPad Pro 12.9. The case here is similar to a complete other tablet in terms of its weight, thickness, and footprint. This is not required for a device that has a built-in kickstand.
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Just give up. They are going to double, triple, quadruple & more down. It will NEVER end.
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