Thanks for posting this! Old mini definitely shows jelly scrolling and noticed it on mine since day 1! THis video makes it pretty clear that jelly scrolling for the major part is indeed fixed! Watched this vid a few times and IMO it's easy to see that the new one has little to no "tearing" left to right (jelly scrolling) where the old one the jelly scrolling is obvious!
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iPad Mini 7 Reviews Say 'Jelly Scrolling' is Fixed, With a Major Exception
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what did iJustine say on this matter?
You know, I only care about the thoughts of tech leaders
You know, I only care about the thoughts of tech leaders
Smooth displays are only useful for gaming, scrolling the internet, apps, reading, eye strain and professional use of an ambiguous definition - all of which require nothing less than a 13” iPad Pro 2TB Wifi+Cellular model with Apple brand Apple Magic Keyboard.
Edit: And Apple Brand Apple Pencil Pro.
we are gonna look back fondly on jelly scrolling.
it will be nostalgic, like hearing a disc or floppy disk being read.
these are the days!
it will be nostalgic, like hearing a disc or floppy disk being read.
these are the days!
They may have done enough here if this video is an indication of reality in person
You won't need to understand German to know which of these is the Mini 6 vs Mini 7
(around 2:10 mark)
You won't need to understand German to know which of these is the Mini 6 vs Mini 7
(around 2:10 mark)
The key really is, are the people who are saying it is fixed people that deffo saw it on the mini 6?
Yep, and during his day there were significantly bigger issues than a screen that annoys less than 1% of actual users.
It’s just a lot easier to reminisce on “the good ol’ days” instead of actually remembering them.
That might be acceptable, getting mine tomorrow and if it isn’t good enough I think I might have to return it and get a foldable Android instead of both my iPhone and my iPad Mini.
Now that Apple seems to have removed the feature where Safari syncs your tabs between devices there’s less integration to be had by running all Apple ecosystem anyway so it doesn’t matter if my iPad Pro doesn’t match the rest.
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I preordered so hopefully will get it tomorrow. I literally had to stop using the 6th gen mini because it would give me headaches after 5-10 mins of use. If it's not fixed this time, it's getting returned. So, keeping my fingers crossed.
But did his words always match his actions?
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Worse brightness, worst color saturation, worse viewing angles.
But Steve Jobs never cheaped out on displays, nope. Never.
No in portrait, because the display controller was orientated in the opposite direction. The 6th gen was the first one to print it the way they did, and iFixit thought it was due to the parts needed for the Apple Pencil. Hoping that might have changed this time with support for the new pencil... we'll see.
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Much more likely that your eyes aren't susceptible to seeing it like some people's are.
Yep, looks fixed to me based on these direct comparison videos. I've had the mini 6 since its release and the jelly scrolling has been very noticeable to me since Day 1. We mostly ended up using the mini as a portable baby monitor so the scrolling hasn't been something I've had to deal with day to day fortunately.
Apple is kidding, right? That can't be true. A ipad @ that price should be much, much better. I am off - no buy...
Some younglings ignore it, what ever it takes. I aspected for @ that price at least a display at the quality of my mbp 2019 - even with 60hz. But sorry - this upgrade is just a joke. I think, apple did that to sell less and kill the mini later.
I'm getting more and more interested in something like that myself honestly
For whatever reason, my iPad usage really isn't that enhanced by the ecosystem. It's the one device where I'd be just fine NOT getting iMessages ... and I'm a Firefox/Orion user anyhow (so I'm used to other sync solutions for tabs/bookmarks) .. Photos on there .. meh ... it's really just a content consumption device, most all of which I can get from all platforms.
In 3 years - nope. Ppls will not buy that - even later. The only exception would be a real small pro - but they would kill it by price and it's anyway never going to happening.
OLED screens are in base iPhone models and have been for years, so I don’t see why they couldn’t take the slight margin hit to standardize on a much better technology. That’s what this update needed and didn’t get. This was hurried through prod dev so they could eliminate the models which do not support Apple Intelligence. We’re probably stuck with this for a while since they had to push these changes through to accommodate their AI pivot and are unlikely to upgrade the mini until the A chips are two to three gens removed from the A17.
All the “upgrades” we got are all a by-product of the features present on the A17 chip needed for AI: WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3, faster USB-C transfers, 128GB storage, etc. They didn’t change the camera position to landscape, fix the underlying jelly-roll problem on LCD, or improve the screen tech to OLED. And the mini gets binned chips as well. I suppose they have to be used somewhere.
Looking forward to your critique and others with prior experience with Mini 6 that this issue was more noticeable and caused eye strain/headaches. I do see it improved in the videos, but is that good enough for you? I used the Mini 6 since it arrived.
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How incredibly incompetent.
The first iPad mini 7 reviews were published today, and many of them said that "jelly scrolling" display behavior is either less noticeable or fully unnoticeable on the device. However, one prominent technology website disagrees.
The major exception is The Verge.
"The 'jelly scrolling' effect from the last model is still very much present," opined The Verge's David Pierce.
In a follow-up comment shared on Threads, Pierce said "I'm sitting here scrolling on both the 2021 and 2024 Mini, and if you forced me to pick which one is better I'd say the 2024 wiggles LESS. But it still wiggles."
Many other reviews said that "jelly scrolling" seems to be fixed, as a result of Apple making display-related hardware changes to minimize the effect.
Jason Snell, writing for Six Colors:
Craig Grannell, writing for Stuff:
Nathan Ingraham, writing for Engadget:
Brenda Stolyar, writing for WIRED:
Tony Polanco, writing for Tom's Guide:
Federico Viticci, writing at MacStories:
"Jelly scrolling" refers to screen tearing, which can cause text or images on one side of the screen to appear to be tilted downwards because of a mismatch in refresh rates. It can cause one side of the display to look as if it is responding faster than the other side, resulting in a visual disturbance that is hard to ignore once noticed.
"Jelly scrolling" on iPad mini 6
The effect is noticeable on the iPad mini 6 when the device was used in portrait orientation, leading to complaints from customers over the past three years.
Shortly after the iPad mini 6 launched, an Apple spokesperson told Ars Technica on background that "jelly scrolling" was "normal" behavior for iPads with LCD displays. Given that LCDs refresh line by line, there is a tiny delay between when the lines at the top and lines at the bottom are refreshed. The effect is particularly noticeable on the iPad mini 6 because it can be seen in portrait orientation rather than landscape orientation.
The new iPad mini launches this Wednesday, October 23.
Article Link: iPad Mini 7 Reviews Say 'Jelly Scrolling' is Fixed, With a Major Exception
I agree - I've had an OLED TV of some form for 9 years now (a few different ones)
Totally and 100% agree! Seriously and honestly though, while I think she's seems a very nice person, I dont recall iJustine ever mention really any negatives for any apple products that she reviews...like ever. :\ At least some others like MKBHD, although arguably a bigger tech channel, will given positive and negatives to make the review more honest and balanced.