iPad Pro Ipad Pro 2018: Only 4gb of RAM

[Robertjan88]

That sample file they used during the keynote is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. 157 layers, 1200x1200 pixels, 9ft x 9ft, over 3 gig file size. At least 300dpi, if not 600.

4 gigs or RAM or 6, that file is beastly.

Most computers, laptops or tablets would struggle with that amount of layers and file size.

The fact that a iPP can handle THAT file with minimal lag or struggle says a lot about how Adobe has optimized Photoshop for the iPad.

I highly doubt the majority of iPP Photoshop users will be working on file sizes that big on the iPad.

I was just justing the Photoshop demo as an example

Want to point out the future proof part of 4GB.

Now it might be sufficient, but 6GB for all iPad Pro vwrsions would allow developers to create even better apps, allow more multitasking and more heavy work (e.g. when it comes to 3d designing and 4k editing). Don't forget. The iPad Pro is targeting a professional creative audience (according to Apple). Not only the standard everyday consumer.

Lastly, and once again, it will make such costly purchase more future proof.

Just noticed that the new Pixel Slate offers 16GB DDR in max configuration, hence 6GB should be too much to ask?

 

[Dammit Cubs]

So basically what I'm hearing is that 1 or 2 video editing apps are the reason for the increased ram? So for people who use your Ipad to run full video editing apps, then hats off to you. You basically make up a usage model that is 2% of the entire usage group if not smaller.

And for those who spent 2000 dollars on an Ipad, you paid the luxury cost of additional storage. Not for performance. The BOM, besides the ram and NAND are nearly identical.

As for the RAM, Let's wait for the results before people start mugging about the wonderful benefits of having 6GB of RAM. Since today is launch day, we will see all the performance numbers we need in the next several days which should help. For all you know, this benefit might not allowed to developers, so we will see.

iPads also never cost up to $2k before now either. Right now, the iPad Pro is in the same range as the MacBook Pro 13in with not near the freedom or productivity level.

This would be fine if iPad was closer to the previous $1300 for a top model with cellular. But now that’s a mid range cost, and it yields the same productivity of the gen 1 iPad Pro.
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It costs 2000 because of the 1TB of Storage. Adding 1TB of embedded flash storage is not cheap. So using a $2000 price is way over blown. If you want a 1TB and you have $2000, i can't tell you how to use your money.

The first Ipad pro, i have bought 12.9 inch Gen 1 128GB+Cellular - cost me around 1000 dollars - the same price as a macbook air back in the day. Why weren't people complaining then?

 

[sracer]

I think it doesn't pay off to go for the 1TB version if you don't need it. I think I'll stick to my 512 as I plan to utilise it in movie editing, probably going to sell it whenever the new models will be released, which probably will double down on the RAM. I don't think the RAM advantage will make a huge difference, other than future proofing a little bit (halfway, since I expect the next iPads to go all the way to 8GB... so there's that).

IMO, the 512GB option is the worst of the options, unless one REALLY needs the additional 256GB space.

For the 512GB model, you pay $200 (over the 256GB model) to get another 256GB of storage.

With the 1TB model you're paying an additional $400 (over the 512GB model) for an additional 512GB storage and 2GB of RAM... That's the same $200 per 256GB (x2) for storage and getting the additional 2GB RAM for "free".

Given the current state of iOS I think all of these new Pro models are overpriced, so factor that in when considering my opinion. If Apple were to open up iOS to the same level of connectivity and support for accessories as Android and Chrome OS, I'd buy the top of the line 1TB 12.9 Pro model in a heartbeat.

Really? 4GB is a "deal breaker" ... I seriously regret the day Apple bowed to Samsung etc and started releasing/acknowledging specs. I preferred it when we didn't have a clue what was inside and judged it by the experience. We didn't even know the names of the processors back then!

Apple doesn't specify how much RAM is in iPads... ever. It is the reviewers and users who are reporting on RAM capacities.

 

[phillytim]

All iPad Pros should be treated EQUALLY: that means the same standard amount of 6GB RAM, whether it has 128GB storage or 1TB storage.

I was ripe to upgrade this year, but will now skip until the next round when Apple decides to standardize on RAM and aspect ratio!

 

[Dammit Cubs]

All iPad Pros should be treated EQUALLY: that means the same standard amount of 6GB RAM, whether it has 128GB storage or 1TB storage.

I was ripe to upgrade this year, but will now skip until the next round when Apple decides to standardize on RAM and aspect ratio!

What if you have No access to that 2GB of extra ram. You have only seen some values from the internet claiming 6GB of ram, performance basis yet to prove the 2GB of ram would make any difference. What if Apple decided to limit? We are merely making assumptions, lets see the data prove this. Larger Storage capacities should yield better margins and thus, if the 1TB had a better performance ceiling, then Apple would of promoted people to try and buy that model.

 

[eulslix]

IMO, the 512GB option is the worst of the options, unless one REALLY needs the additional 256GB space.

For the 512GB model, you pay $200 (over the 256GB model) to get another 256GB of storage.

With the 1TB model you're paying an additional $400 (over the 512GB model) for an additional 512GB storage and 2GB of RAM... That's the same $200 per 256GB (x2) for storage and getting the additional 2GB RAM for "free".

Given the current state of iOS I think all of these new Pro models are overpriced, so factor that in when considering my opinion. If Apple were to open up iOS to the same level of connectivity and support for accessories as Android and Chrome OS, I'd buy the top of the line 1TB 12.9 Pro model in a heartbeat.



Apple doesn't specify how much RAM is in iPads... ever. It is the reviewers and users who are reporting on RAM capacities.

Nah, it really depends on what you need. I feel the 400 are a lot of extra cost for space I don't need. 512 is the sweet spot for me, knowing how much I was using on my MBP for movie editing and graphic/ux design. As some other poster mentioned, I'd rather save up the 400 to sell my device for roughly the same amount less in 1-1,5 years and get an updated model with probably 1TB, better screen, more RAM, whatever...

I think you should always buy what you need. If you keep buying the best value, you might end up with more money in the future, but an inferior user experience on your way there. And I simply don't see any of the apps going up to 6GB within this generation, there's enough optimisation potential (look at what Final Cut Pro X is capable of doing on Macs vs it's competition).

Think about it that way: You're an iOS dev studio. You think about implementing a new power user feature requiring more RAM. How many people went for less than 1TB, how many still use an old generation iPad? Probably like 95-99% of their user base. Nobody will put more than a sprint of work into such a feature. So if some dev utilises it, it'll end up being a small candy or a user research to test the waters for future devices.

 

[Mathias Denichi]

So basically what I'm hearing is that 1 or 2 video editing apps are the reason for the increased ram? So for people who use your Ipad to run full video editing apps, then hats off to you. You basically make up a usage model that is 2% of the entire usage group if not smaller.

And for those who spent 2000 dollars on an Ipad, you paid the luxury cost of additional storage. Not for performance. The BOM, besides the ram and NAND are nearly identical.

As for the RAM, Let's wait for the results before people start mugging about the wonderful benefits of having 6GB of RAM. Since today is launch day, we will see all the performance numbers we need in the next several days which should help. For all you know, this benefit might not allowed to developers, so we will see.



It costs 2000 because of the 1TB of Storage. Adding 1TB of embedded flash storage is not cheap. So using a $2000 price is way over blown. If you want a 1TB and you have $2000, i can't tell you how to use your money.

The first Ipad pro, i have bought 12.9 inch Gen 1 128GB+Cellular - cost me around 1000 dollars - the same price as a macbook air back in the day. Why weren't people complaining then?

The 128gb at the time was the top tier model at the time until the 256gb (at $1250 Cellular)was released in April. They sold it exactly the same as now: a laptop replacement. The current 64gb wifi cellular model is priced the same as your at the time top tier 128gb model was 3 years ago, and they both run ios 12 the same. That's the issue.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

The 128gb at the time was the top tier model at the time until the 256gb (at $1250 Cellular)was released in April. They sold it exactly the same as now: a laptop replacement. The current 64gb wifi cellular model is priced the same as your at the time top tier 128gb model was 3 years ago, and they both run ios 12 the same. That's the issue.

I sell my organic eggs as the best eggs of all time, doesn't mean it's true. I do not know why Editors, youtube bloggers etc, try to keep coming back to the same question, is the ipad pro a laptop replacement. For most professionals, the answer is no.

for consumers who uses a laptop for facebook and browsing - it most certainly does. Ipad's greatest strength in content consumption - not creation.

 

[Robertjan88]

So basically what I'm hearing is that 1 or 2 video editing apps are the reason for the increased ram? So for people who use your Ipad to run full video editing apps, then hats off to you. You basically make up a usage model that is 2% of the entire usage group if not smaller.

And for those who spent 2000 dollars on an Ipad, you paid the luxury cost of additional storage. Not for performance. The BOM, besides the ram and NAND are nearly identical.

As for the RAM, Let's wait for the results before people start mugging about the wonderful benefits of having 6GB of RAM. Since today is launch day, we will see all the performance numbers we need in the next several days which should help. For all you know, this benefit might not allowed to developers, so we will see.



It costs 2000 because of the 1TB of Storage. Adding 1TB of embedded flash storage is not cheap. So using a $2000 price is way over blown. If you want a 1TB and you have $2000, i can't tell you how to use your money.

The first Ipad pro, i have bought 12.9 inch Gen 1 128GB+Cellular - cost me around 1000 dollars - the same price as a macbook air back in the day. Why weren't people complaining then?

The video editing is just an example....same for Photoshop, same for 3d editing/designing.....

This type of applications will benefit from more ram. Or do you think that most PC users buy 16 or 32GB, instead of 8GB, just for fun? Of course, if Apple doesn't offer more than 4GB, apps will never get further optimised. But if it does, you will quickly see performance benefits.

Once again, Apple is looking to target a more professional/creative audience, hence should understand that this is the kind of software that this type of audience is looking for.

They are not interested in just Candy Candy crush or Netflix. For that, Apple has a cheaper iPad.... :+)

 

[eulslix]

I sell my organic eggs as the best eggs of all time, doesn't mean it's true. I do not know why Editors, youtube bloggers etc, try to keep coming back to the same question, is the ipad pro a laptop replacement. For most professionals, the answer is no.

for consumers who uses a laptop for facebook and browsing - it most certainly does. Ipad's greatest strength in content consumption - not creation.

It's definitely also a viable alternative for professionals. Once either Figma, Sketch, inVision or whatever competitor hits the iPad, (which is most probably coming since the people at Figma have hinted at it already), I can replace all my currently used Mac tools with my iPad and a workflow I personally find much more intuitive.

Should Final Cut hit the iPad, that would be an added bonus and make me forget what a computer actually was.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

The video editing is just an example....same for Photoshop, same for 3d editing/designing.....

Once again, Apple is looking to target a more professional/creative audience, hence should understand that this is the kind of software that this type of audience is looking for.

They are not interested in just Candy Candy crush or Netflix. For that, Apple has a cheaper iPad.... :+)

This is where i respectfully disagree. There is a market for professionals to use the Ipad Pro, but there is no demographic statistic that proves that majority of Ipad Pro uses are using their Ipads for professional use. If you clearly look at the benefits from a consumer point of view, moving to the iPad pro is more advantageous to the regular 9.7 inch iPAD. And iPAD 9.7 (recent one released) was more geared towards academics.

So the question is how many ipad PRO users truly use it for professional and creative tools such a photoshop, lightroom, video editing tools. Maybe we should create a poll and see because Apple knows what everyone using their iPads. they create usage models which meet consumer demands, if they felt the need that the professional needed more ram to take advantage of the A12X processor then they would added it. They also are aware that Ipad uses do not refresh as fast as Iphone users so they aren't expecting people to change every year...

 

[Mathias Denichi]

I sell my organic eggs as the best eggs of all time, doesn't mean it's true. I do not know why Editors, youtube bloggers etc, try to keep coming back to the same question, is the ipad pro a laptop replacement. For most professionals, the answer is no.

for consumers who uses a laptop for facebook and browsing - it most certainly does. Ipad's greatest strength in content consumption - not creation.

I agree. But Apple is marketing it towards digital media creation. The reality is that it is the best consumption device until they add more iOS features. The main ram issue, is if iOS 13 makes it a better creation device, will it better serve those who waited for a 6gb base version or bought the current 6gb ram 1tb version?

 

[Codeseven]

The suggestions of waiting it out for the next gen iPP’s because they will likely have 6Gb at a minimum and perhaps 8Gb, only lends more credence to those (me) looking to ‘future-proof’ this gens purchase.

The hardware (ie CPU/SSD) has not been the problem and still isn’t. Lack of memory in past models including the iPhone (as has been pointed out in this thread), lack of functionality due to limitations in iOS and lack of fully functioning (laptop equivalent) software, have all been sources of complaint. As Apple continues to push the iPad as a laptop replacement I would expect future demands on the hardware to only increase, perhaps greatly so. And maybe that’s why people are expecting the next gen to have, at least, 6Gb of ram.

Im not worried in the least about the CPU, the A12X is already overkill, but in respect to what’s potentially coming in the future, I speculate it will be being stuck with ‘only 4Gb’ of ram, when everyone else is utilizing a minimum of 6Gb, that will really be the bummer (given I had the choice to get 6Gb).

There’s always the choice of getting a 4Gb model now, knowing I’m most likely going to get rid of it as soon as the newer model comes out, which, I hate buying things I feel won’t last long. Or, bite the bullet, and be happy when 6Gb is the new minimum that you looked ahead and made the right choice.

 

[macduke]

I am looking forward to someone like EverythingApplePro on YouTube testing the 6GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM models for multitasking, Safari tabs, and layers in apps like Procreate or if he can get the Photoshop beta.

I looked into how iOS handles swapping to disk, and watching a WWDC 2018 video here, it looks like it doesn't. What they do when they need to swap is they actually compress the memory on the fly. I remember them talking about this with macOS several years ago, but I didn't know they did this in iOS as well starting in iOS 7. Not sure if this is something that is completely automatic or if developers can take advantage of it while using their app (not suspended), but the CPU in the iPad Pro is so fast now that it could much more easily handle some heavy compress/decompression on the fly. This likely also explains why iOS devices don't seem to need as much memory as Android devices. Pretty interesting stuff. In their example video they said they could shrink down something that is three pages to one page in memory. So when we look at the 4GB, this could potentially end up being more like 12GB of RAM but compressed down. Now it probably depends on the type of data be compressed, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that 4GB on iOS is more equivalent to 8GB on Macs from a long time ago, and 6GB might be more equivalent to 12GB (unless the SSD needs more of that RAM for managing the file system). We can't directly compare it to older Macs that only had 2 or 4GB of RAM. But on the other hand, macOS can also do this today, so modern Macs are even more impressive. Interesting stuff.

 

[Donka]

What if you have No access to that 2GB of extra ram. You have only seen some values from the internet claiming 6GB of ram, performance basis yet to prove the 2GB of ram would make any difference. What if Apple decided to limit? We are merely making assumptions, lets see the data prove this. Larger Storage capacities should yield better margins and thus, if the 1TB had a better performance ceiling, then Apple would of promoted people to try and buy that model.

I agree on this point and it would take someone running the same software and taxing scenario on both the 1TB and a lower capacity model to confirm. Either way, I'm not about to 'upgrade' my 12.9 256GB with 4GB RAM for a new 12.9 256GB with 4GB RAM and pay a 29% premium for the privilege! Not interested in the 1TB model as more storage is not something I would personally get a benefit from anytime soon but more RAM I would definitely pay a premium for if done properly.

 

[Robertjan88]

This is where i respectfully disagree. There is a market for professionals to use the Ipad Pro, but there is no demographic statistic that proves that majority of Ipad Pro uses are using their Ipads for professional use. If you clearly look at the benefits from a consumer point of view, moving to the iPad pro is more advantageous to the regular 9.7 inch iPAD. And iPAD 9.7 (recent one released) was more geared towards academics.

So the question is how many ipad PRO users truly use it for professional and creative tools such a photoshop, lightroom, video editing tools. Maybe we should create a poll and see because Apple knows what everyone using their iPads. they create usage models which meet consumer demands, if they felt the need that the professional needed more ram to take advantage of the A12X processor then they would added it. They also are aware that Ipad uses do not refresh as fast as Iphone users so they aren't expecting people to change every year...

Sorry, but didn't you see them focussing on Photoshop and co for

This is where i respectfully disagree. There is a market for professionals to use the Ipad Pro, but there is no demographic statistic that proves that majority of Ipad Pro uses are using their Ipads for professional use. If you clearly look at the benefits from a consumer point of view, moving to the iPad pro is more advantageous to the regular 9.7 inch iPAD. And iPAD 9.7 (recent one released) was more geared towards academics.

So the question is how many ipad PRO users truly use it for professional and creative tools such a photoshop, lightroom, video editing tools. Maybe we should create a poll and see because Apple knows what everyone using their iPads. they create usage models which meet consumer demands, if they felt the need that the professional needed more ram to take advantage of the A12X processor then they would added it. They also are aware that Ipad uses do not refresh as fast as Iphone users so they aren't expecting people to change every year...

? Removing the audio jack, a non-standard aspect ratio and resolution, no TRUE multi tasking, still a very closed/non flexible eco system,.... (Shall I go on?).
Please tell me, where did they ever listen?

Maybe not everyone will need more than 4GB at this time, maybe only more PRO users will see the benefit at this time, BUT in the longer term (2 year +) you will see that everyone, who doesnt want to upgrade yet again for 1 or 2 features, will benefit.

 

[Donka]

I am looking forward to someone like EverythingApplePro on YouTube testing the 6GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM models for multitasking, Safari tabs, and layers in apps like Procreate or if he can get the Photoshop beta.

I looked into how iOS handles swapping to disk, and watching a WWDC 2018 video here, it looks like it doesn't. What they do when they need to swap is they actually compress the memory on the fly. I remember them talking about this with macOS several years ago, but I didn't know they did this in iOS as well starting in iOS 7. Not sure if this is something that is completely automatic or if developers can take advantage of it while using their app (not suspended), but the CPU in the iPad Pro is so fast now that it could much more easily handle some heavy compress/decompression on the fly. This likely also explains why iOS devices don't seem to need as much memory as Android devices. Pretty interesting stuff. In their example video they said they could shrink down something that is three pages to one page in memory. So when we look at the 4GB, this could potentially end up being more like 12GB of RAM but compressed down. Now it probably depends on the type of data be compressed, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that 4GB on iOS is more equivalent to 8GB on Macs from a long time ago, and 6GB might be more equivalent to 12GB (unless the SSD needs more of that RAM for managing the file system). We can't directly compare it to older Macs that only had 2 or 4GB of RAM. But on the other hand, macOS can also do this today, so modern Macs are even more impressive. Interesting stuff.

This is new with the A12 series I believe so these are the first iPads to feature memory compression. It's also all automatic and app developers do not need to do anything. Unfortunately, I don't see the gains being anywhere close to those you are hoping for in real life but it is still welcome and will offer tangible benefits.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-review-unveiling-the-silicon-secrets/2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory_compression

This is for Windows but gives an idea on pros and cons:
https://www.howtogeek.com/319933/what-is-memory-compression-in-windows-10/

 

[Dammit Cubs]

Sorry, but didn't you see them focussing on Photoshop and co for


? Removing the audio jack, a non-standard aspect ratio and resolution, no TRUE multi tasking, still a very closed/non flexible eco system,.... (Shall I go on?).
Please tell me, where did they ever listen?

Maybe not everyone will need more than 4GB at this time, maybe only more PRO users will see the benefit at this time, BUT in the longer term (2 year +) you will see that everyone, who doesnt want to upgrade yet again for 1 or 2 features, will benefit.

There is no determination that having greater than 4GB will affect your workflow performance more. After all, this topic is about the increased Ram in 1TB. There is no data that prove performance improvement. Everyone is going back a simple Geek Bench reading and then a bunch of ranting. So continue to believe this.

As for the headphone jack, correct - it was negatively given until majority of manufacturers started to cave in. What I mean by usage model, is that if Apple knew that 4GB of ram was insufficient for the workflow, they would of changed it.

The issue isn't that Apple has given 4GB of ram to the ipad pro, it's the fact that one sku has 6GB while the rest have 4GB. That is the only reason for the uproar. If you believe that uniformly there should be 6GB for all SKU, what is your technical justification for this, why not 8GB? why not 16GB? What makes enough enough? If i was hardware developer, i wouldn't be blindly putting as much ram as possible. I would looking at tons of data to see average ram usage models and determine what is valid for the next X years. Why would I front up cost of material that I don't expect my customer to fully take advantage of and if there was a group, what is the percentage of that group versus the overall group, does that smaller percentile group truly factor. These are numbers that all manufacturers look into. Also people are looking at this like they are using a windows / Mac OS ram usage model and think that's what it should be on a ipad. It's a completely different operating system and we don't know what type of data compression being used, memory bandwidth, storage throughput would truly take advantage of the greater RAM amounts.

side question:
Are you planning to buy one?

 

[Treebark]

I’m guessing others with more experience will do this, but how would one go about testing a 512gb vs a 1tb iPad? I looked in the App Store and saw a couple of geekbench, but are these the mainstream ones people rely on? Is there a better tool?

I’m in the camp that I don’t think (m)any iPad apps will take advantage of the extra 2GB of memory even if it is accessible, but if there is value with having a comparison that I can do easily we do have the two above models in house. They are being restored at the moment though.

I guess the major blogs or Tom’s Hardware will probably be doing this soon anyway.

 

[Robertjan88]

There is no determination that having greater than 4GB will affect your workflow performance more. After all, this topic is about the increased Ram in 1TB. There is no data that prove performance improvement. Everyone is going back a simple Geek Bench reading and then a bunch of ranting. So continue to believe this.

As for the headphone jack, correct - it was negatively given until majority of manufacturers started to cave in. What I mean by usage model, is that if Apple knew that 4GB of ram was insufficient for the workflow, they would of changed it.

The issue isn't that Apple has given 4GB of ram to the ipad pro, it's the fact that one sku has 6GB while the rest have 4GB. That is the only reason for the uproar. If you believe that uniformly there should be 6GB for all SKU, what is your technical justification for this, why not 8GB? why not 16GB? What makes enough enough? If i was hardware developer, i wouldn't be blindly putting as much ram as possible. I would looking at tons of data to see average ram usage models and determine what is valid for the next X years. Why would I front up cost of material that I don't expect my customer to fully take advantage of and if there was a group, what is the percentage of that group versus the overall group, does that smaller percentile group truly factor. These are numbers that all manufacturers look into. Also people are looking at this like they are using a windows / Mac OS ram usage model and think that's what it should be on a ipad. It's a completely different operating system and we don't know what type of data compression being used, memory bandwidth, storage throughput would truly take advantage of the greater RAM amounts.

side question:
Are you planning to buy one?

Of course I also see your point. I just think that Apple could have done better and offer everyone the same memory. It has been proven that, up till a certain hight, more memory is better performance as long as apps are optimized. Of course, the sky is the limit and the differences are getting smaller/nearly 0 at a certain point.

Once IOS apps become optimized for more ram, e.g. when the next generation standard has 6GB (for Apple something to brag about and push current 64,256 and 512GB to once again upgrade), we will definitely see the difference between 4 and 6. Especially in the PRO apps like Photoshop and co.
It has been the same for any other device (laptops, PC's etc) in the past. The iPad won't be an exception.

Again, I am purely pointing out that 4GB will be a lot less future proof than 6GB (its a 50% difference), which to be frank, isn't really customer friendly considering Apple, yet again, increased their price.

To answer your final question: YES I will definitely buy the iPad Pro. Have used my iPad Air for a long time, but always did my editing on a workstation.

The current iPad Pro finally becomes a bit interesting for editing 4k video files on the go (especially as LumaFusion will be supporting 10bit in the future), pro quality RAW files and creative 3d editing, hence the reason why I am interested.

As for capacity: 256GB most likely. Personally, I don't need 1TB as I have all my files in the cloud and will import and edit files from an SD card as soon as I need to do so. After that, I upload the final file and wipe it from my iPad.

 

[macduke]

This is new with the A12 series I believe so these are the first iPads to feature memory compression. It's also all automatic and app developers do not need to do anything. Unfortunately, I don't see the gains being anywhere close to those you are hoping for in real life but it is still welcome and will offer tangible benefits.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-review-unveiling-the-silicon-secrets/2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory_compression

This is for Windows but gives an idea or pros and cons:
https://www.howtogeek.com/319933/what-is-memory-compression-in-windows-10/

No, Apple very clearly said in that WWDC video that I linked that it has been in iOS since iOS 7. Also that video was before A12 was even available. The compression that you just linked is talking about GPU memory compression. This is different.

 

[Donka]

No, Apple very clearly said in that WWDC video that I linked that it has been in iOS since iOS 7. Also that video was before A12 was even available. The compression that you just linked is talking about GPU memory compression. This is different.

I was going by the Anandtech article although perhaps GPU memory compression is different from CPU in this regard.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

Of course I also see your point. I just think that Apple could have done better and offer everyone the same memory. It has been proven that, up till a certain hight, more memory is better performance as long as apps are optimized. Of course, the sky is the limit and the differences are getting smaller/nearly 0 at a certain point.

Once IOS apps become optimized for more ram, e.g. when the next generation standard has 6GB (for Apple something to brag about and push current 64,256 and 512GB to once again upgrade), we will definitely see the difference between 4 and 6. Especially in the PRO apps like Photoshop and co.
It has been the same for any other device (laptops, PC's etc) in the past. The iPad won't be an exception.

Let me re-phrase in a way nullifies this 4GB vs 6GB detail. Agreed that 2GBs is an addition 50% increase from the standard tablets. What I believe (and this strictly myself, no evidence so far), I believe that the 1TB Memory specifically has possibly a bottleneck performance which requires the extra 2GB of RAM. Thus, if Apple decided to move the 6GB threshold to all storage product configurations, I then believe the 1TB model would only move to 8GB.

We will probably get more information, but a company typically wants to make all the product lines of the same performance. Whether that's 64GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1TB - so if that is the hypothetical thought process then, the 2GB is merely to get performance to match. Maybe I'm completely wrong on this, well just see.

Enjoy your new Ipad - i just picked one up during day and it was visually much more appealing that I expected it be.

 

[Robertjan88]

Let me re-phrase in a way nullifies this 4GB vs 6GB detail. Agreed that 2GBs is an addition 50% increase from the standard tablets. What I believe (and this strictly myself, no evidence so far), I believe that the 1TB Memory specifically has possibly a bottleneck performance which requires the extra 2GB of RAM. Thus, if Apple decided to move the 6GB threshold to all storage product configurations, I then believe the 1TB model would only move to 8GB.

We will probably get more information, but a company typically wants to make all the product lines of the same performance. Whether that's 64GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1TB - so if that is the hypothetical thought process then, the 2GB is merely to get performance to match. Maybe I'm completely wrong on this, well just see.

Enjoy your new Ipad - i just picked one up during day and it was visually much more appealing that I expected it be.

I have asked Mark Spoonauer (Laptopmag) and Klaus Hinum (Notebookcheck) if they could benchmark the versions with less storage.

In his feedback, Mark mentioned they would, but that this could take a bit of time. Their 1TB 6GB benchmark can be found under the following link, for those who didn't read it yet : https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/new-ipad-pro-benchmarks

Notebookcheck is currently writing a review for the 256GB 12,9 version. It's in German and still being updated as they go (hence missing their in-depth benchmarks so far), but the English version should follow: https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Apple-iPad-Pro-12-9-2018-LTE-256-GB-Tablet.357321.0.html

 

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From Twitter: “I confirm The 1TB iPad Pro comes with 6GB of RAM. Apps can use about 4.5GB. Other iPads Pro have 4GB, with about 2.8GB available for apps.” - Lucky Clan

https://mobile.twitter.com/lucky_clan/status/1060138595552559105