iPad Pro Ipad Pro 2018: Only 4gb of RAM

[jterp7]

Both iPad 3 and 4 had 1GB RAM. The problem with the iPad 3 is insufficient GPU.

Haha realized that when i went to check right after posting. Basically the 6s fixed the constant reloading due to lack or ram to support the higher res and the 4 addressed the lack of gpu power basically the 4 was a ipad3s.

And this is i guess always the concern people have when purchasing tech products but its inevitable.

 

[Jimpilot]

I guess we’ll have to wait until they’re out and tested. Seems reasonable that more memory may be needed to manage all that storage. The open question is all of it needed or is there a surplus that will be available to improve performance

 

[UltimateSyn]

Both iPad 3 and 4 had 1GB RAM. The problem with the iPad 3 is insufficient GPU.

Edit: Disregard. I was wrong.

 

[rui no onna]

This is not true. The 3rd gen iPad quadrupled the number of pixels while keeping RAM at the same 512MB, resulting in poor performance. 4th gen doubled it to 1GB.

Nope. iPad 3rd gen has 1GB RAM. CPU performance remained the same and GPU performance was just 2x while needing to support 4x pixels.

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...s-between-ipad-3rd-gen-early-2012-models.html

 

[UltimateSyn]

Nope. iPad 3rd gen has 1GB RAM. CPU performance remained the same and GPU performance was just 2x while needing to support 4x pixels.

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...s-between-ipad-3rd-gen-early-2012-models.html

Already edited my friend! Good call

 

[1144557]

iOS 13 is set to become even more intricate and while 4GB would probably be enough for a few years, I’d rather have the absolute best performance for a device that’s already going to cost well over a grand.

Except iOS12 is running on the 5S which is 1GB RAM up to the XS/Max with 4GB.

Even if Apple drops the 5S for iOS13, the 6/6 plus are still 1gb devices, and the 7/7Plus 2gb devices. So iOS13 will still be optimized to run on 1-2gb RAM devices.

There is no way iOS alone will be bottlenecked on a 4gb RAM device anytime before a new iPad in say 2020 (1.5 year span last few releases) And even in 2020 for iOS14 then the bottom device should still be the 7/7 Plus with 2GB RAM.

 

[Altis]

Why does ram bother people? When an inevitable new feature years from now will no longer support the 2018 iPad Pro, it will be just that - not supported by the 2018 iPad Pro.. there will be non exceptions for people with 1GB devices etc

Lack of RAM could very well be the reason they decide to no longer support a device.

If it had sufficient RAM now, that bottleneck won't be the thing that bogs it down, especially seeing as the CPU is very powerful.

 

[UltimateSyn]

Except iOS12 is running on the 5S which is 1GB RAM up to the XS/Max with 4GB.

Even if Apple drops the 5S for iOS13, the 6/6 plus are still 1gb devices, and the 7/7Plus 2gb devices. So iOS13 will still be optimized to run on 1-2gb RAM devices.

There is no way iOS alone will be bottlenecked on a 4gb RAM device anytime before a new iPad in say 2020 (1.5 year span last few releases) And even for iOS14 then the bottom device should still be the 7/7 Plus with 2GB RAM.

I’m talking about optimal performance given the additional iPad functionality that’s rumored to come in iOS 13 (e.g. multiple tabs within an app)

 

[1144557]

I’m talking about optimal performance given the additional iPad functionality that’s rumored to come in iOS 13 (e.g. multiple tabs within an app)

So you think theyre already working on iOS13 for only 7 months away at WWDC that wont work at its peak on their newest devices high end 4gb phones/iPads; as there will be no new devices between now and June (and likely no new iPads until 2020 if the 1.5 year trend continues)?

What better spec rdevice are they writing iOS13 for then?

I mean cmon now. All is neurotic stuff about RAM is simply over the top now.

 

[UltimateSyn]

So you think theyre already working on iOS13 for only 7 months away at WWDC that wont work at its peak on their newest devices high end 4gb phones/iPads; as there will be no new devices between now and June (and likely no new iPads until 2020 if the 1.5 year trend continues)?

I mean cmon now. All is neurotic stuff about RAM is simply over the top now.

I’m not entirely sure what your point is. I never said that iOS 13 wouldn’t run or run well on these iPads. The benefit of 50% more RAM in terms of keeping all of your applications cached will be seen though. Especially as the iPad version of iOS continues to add more functionality. The 6GB iPads will be better at keeping everything together for years to come than their 4GB counterparts, even if the 4 gig versions still do everything very well.

 

[1144557]

I’m not entirely sure what your point is. I never said that iOS 13 wouldn’t run or run well on these iPads. The benefit of 50% more RAM in terms of keeping all of your applications cached will be seen though. Especially as the iPad version of iOS continues to add more functionality. The 6GB iPads will be better at keeping everything together for years to come than their 4GB counterparts, even if the 4 gig versions still do everything very well.

The point? The same thing said already multiple times. More storage requires more RAM as a general rule

It does NOT mean there will be a huge discrepancy in FREE RAM, the number that actually matters.

Ie. does it matter if you have 6gb RAM with a 256gb storage and 5.5gb free, or 16gb with 10.5TB of storage and 5.5gb free? Same thing to the user of usable RAM.

No one has devices in hand yet to know what if any discrepancy there is; mere speculation at best.

 

[Kal-037]

I too am extremely particular and obsessive about having the very top end Apple products, but I fear my obsession may get the most of me and I’ll cave for the 1TB. iOS 13 is set to become even more intricate and while 4GB would probably be enough for a few years, I’d rather have the absolute best performance for a device that’s already going to cost well over a grand.

And by the way, 6GB is definitely 50% more than 4GB.

I’m confused... how is 6GB double 4GB? I’m pretty sure basic math hasn’t changed recently (even with new computer technology.) 8GB RAM is 50% more as its double 4GB.

 

[rui no onna]

I’m confused... how is 6GB double 4GB? I’m pretty sure basic math hasn’t changed recently (even with new computer technology.) 8GB RAM is 50% more as its double 4GB.

If you double, you increase by 100%. You're just adding 50%.

4GB * 150% = 6GB

4GB * 200% = 8GB

Although yes, you're right, basic math hasn't changed.

This gets a lot of people when it comes to investing. When you lose 50% of value, you then need a gain of 100% in order to recover original value. When you lose 20%, you need a gain of 25%.

 

[Omni Slash]

4GB is 50% of 8GB
8GB is 200% of 4GB, aka doubles 4GB
4GB is 66.7% of 6GB
6GB is 150% of 4GB, aka 50% more than 4GB

 

[BeatCrazy]

So it would basically cost me $600 to get that extra 2GB of RAM, going from 256 to 1TB. No thanks! I won't even use my full 256GB, so the extra SSD is just wasted on me. I can take that $600 and put it towards the 2021 iPad Pro The performance fall off of 4GB vs. 6GB would have to be pretty drastic for folks to consider it for a $600 upgrade.

And ya know, that extra $600 for 1TB will probably only get ya an extra $50 in resale value in a couple of years.

 

[UltimateSyn]

The point? The same thing said already multiple times. More storage requires more RAM as a general rule

It does NOT mean there will be a huge discrepancy in FREE RAM, the number that actually matters.

Ie. does it matter if you have 6gb RAM with a 256gb storage and 5.5gb free, or 16gb with 10.5TB of storage and 5.5gb free? Same thing to the user of usable RAM.

No one has devices in hand yet to know what if any discrepancy there is; mere speculation at best.

Someone earlier said the general rule is to take 1MB of RAM to address each GB of storage. This means the 512GB devices will have 3.5GB of usable RAM, while the 1TB devices will have 5GB. That’s a 43% increase.

 

[cibonak]

Question: ipp 1st gen 12.9 .... is it 4gb pf ram?

 

[UltimateSyn]

Question: ipp 1st gen 12.9 .... is it 4gb pf ram?

Yes. 9.7” Pro had 2GB and the 10.5” received 4GB.

 

[Kal-037]

To add insult to injury... new iPads don’t have HDR or Dolby Vision Support.


Kallum.

 

[kazmac]

The 1TB comes with 6GB if that makes ya feel better

Uh...not for the starting price of $1549 for the 11”. Holy CRAP!!!! (No, I wasn’t paying attention beyond the base model price hike).

 

[stylinexpat]

The performance spec numbers on the new iPad Pro are really good. Definitely no complaints about the performance numbers but the price for 6GB of RAM at $1800 is catering to the wealthy. Average person can not buy an iPhone for $1K,iPad Pro for $1.8K and a MacBook Pro for $2-3K. To have an iPhone,iPad and MacBook it would cost one around $5K which is not cheap. If they update every 2 years this become expensive.

 

[TheralSadurns]

Except iOS12 is running on the 5S which is 1GB RAM up to the XS/Max with 4GB.

Even if Apple drops the 5S for iOS13, the 6/6 plus are still 1gb devices, and the 7/7Plus 2gb devices. So iOS13 will still be optimized to run on 1-2gb RAM devices.

There is no way iOS alone will be bottlenecked on a 4gb RAM device anytime before a new iPad in say 2020 (1.5 year span last few releases) And even in 2020 for iOS14 then the bottom device should still be the 7/7 Plus with 2GB RAM.

It's mostly NOT the OS that is the issue... but applications. As was said earlier. The iPhone 6 Plus runs everything until iOS 12 perfectly fine. You just cannot switch between Apps... as it has to ALWAYS reload them. You cannot switch between tabs in Safari... it has to reload them. Hell... zooming in on MacRumors causes the Safari Tab to CRASH more often than not.

So ya... 4GB iPad Pro... will run iOS15 JUST fine. But will it run Photoshop fine then? And allow smooth App switiching like my Mac does? Which is something I DEMAND of a pro device costing more than a grand.

 

[Kal-037]

Wait just one minute here...

If this 6GB RAM thing is real and only for 1TB models... it will only work just as good as the other iPads, meaning there shouldn’t be any real improvement or gains, because it’s managing that huge 1TB storage right?
Or am I wrong... again? lol


Apple has made the best iPad yet (well on paper,) but Apple made this all so confusing and frustrating this time around. :?
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If you double, you increase by 100%. You're just adding 50%.

4GB * 150% = 6GB

4GB * 200% = 8GB

Although yes, you're right, basic math hasn't changed.

This gets a lot of people when it comes to investing. When you lose 50% of value, you then need a gain of 100% in order to recover original value. When you lose 20%, you need a gain of 25%.

Oh, okay... now I get it. I was thinking in a way different way. I thought people meant 2x more, I don’t know why I thought that, lol.
Thanks for clearing that up.



Kallum.

 

[UltimateSyn]

Wait just one minute here...

If this 6GB RAM thing is real and only for 1TB models... it will only work just as good as the other iPads, meaning there shouldn’t be any real improvement or gains, because it’s managing that huge 1TB storage right?
Or am I wrong... again? lol


Apple has made the best iPad yet (well on paper,) but Apple made this all so confusing and frustrating this time around. :?
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Oh, okay... now I get it. I was thinking in a way different way. I thought people meant 2x more, I don’t know why I thought that, lol.
Thanks for clearing that up.



Kallum.

My post from earlier relates to this. There should still be some extra usable RAM on the 1TB models.

Someone earlier said the general rule is to take 1MB of RAM to address each GB of storage. This means the 512GB devices will have 3.5GB of usable RAM, while the 1TB devices will have 5GB. That’s a 43% increase.

 

[macdaddy1991]

Wait just one minute here...

If this 6GB RAM thing is real and only for 1TB models... it will only work just as good as the other iPads, meaning there shouldn’t be any real improvement or gains, because it’s managing that huge 1TB storage right?
Or am I wrong... again? lol


Apple has made the best iPad yet (well on paper,) but Apple made this all so confusing and frustrating this time around. :?
[doublepost=1541142606][/doublepost]
Oh, okay... now I get it. I was thinking in a way different way. I thought people meant 2x more, I don’t know why I thought that, lol.
Thanks for clearing that up.



Kallum.

On the assumption of 1mb per gb of storage that leaves 64gb with 3.94gb; 256gb with 3.74gb; 512gb with 3.49gb; and the 1TB with 5gb.

Even with the storage controller needing more ram to operate you’re still getting vastly more ram for the device. Close to a 43% increase in ram from the 512gb model to the 1TB model once storage controller needs are accounted for.