iPad Pro is still mainly for entertainment

[fate0311]

Am curious to know what you can't do with Excel on the iPad that you need to do?

Excel on the iPad is extremely inefficient and also lacks the same abilities as the desktop.

I think trying to use the iPad for productivity as it stands now is counter intuitive in regards to efficiency. The iPad is purely a convenience factor at the moment for the majority of its users when it comes to productivity. Using the iPad satisfies the user because it is small, it is light, and it is possibly the future. It's a dopamine hit, something that allows you to leave the clunky MacBook at home. That is where it ends though.

Anyone who is trying to argue different is in my eyes trying far too hard to justify the purchase to themselves.

So many of you are trying to force a square shape into a round hole and talk yourselves into believing its fine.

You want to consume, ok great iPad's are awesome. You want to try and talk me into believing it's meant for work as it stands right now aside from communicating...save your breath.

 

[spiderman0616]

Excel on the iPad is extremely inefficient and also lacks the same abilities as the desktop.

I think trying to use the iPad for productivity as it stands now is counter intuitive in regards to efficiency. The iPad is purely a convenience factor at the moment for the majority of its users when it comes to productivity. Using the iPad satisfies the user because it is small, it is light, and it is possibly the future. It's a dopamine hit, something that allows you to leave the clunky MacBook at home. That is where it ends though.

Anyone who is trying to argue different is in my eyes trying far too hard to justify the purchase to themselves.

So many of you are trying to force a square shape into a round hole and talk yourselves into believing its fine.

You want to consume, ok great iPad's are awesome. You want to try and talk me into believing it's meant for work as it stands right now aside from communicating...save your breath.

Yet another poster assuming that just because the iPad isn't right for YOU as a productivity device that it's not right for anyone else either. Such an arrogant point of view. I have some productivity tasks that I do on my iPad that are just as efficient as they are on the Mac, some that are better than on the Mac, and some that aren't as good as they are on the Mac. iOS 11 is going to fix a lot of the things that aren't as good.

I don't understand the logic in telling people that their preferences are wrong. Insecure much?
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Almost every iOS update breaks apps/games so that is a valid concern. Apple has no interest in supporting backwards compatibility.

On other OS like windows, when a dev stops supporting the program, it still runs even on newer os versions.

Yeah.....no. That statement is far from accurate. I can't remember the last time an iOS update broke any of my apps unless the developer was asleep at the wheel and not ready for the update. Issues like that are often resolved within a day or so.

 

[legioxi]

Yeah.....no. That statement is far from accurate. I can't remember the last time an iOS update broke any of my apps unless the developer was asleep at the wheel and not ready for the update. Issues like that are often resolved within a day or so.

A day or so of downtime can be pretty major. I would say anyone relying on their iPad for work should delay updates until they know apps support them but short of having a second iPad just for testing updates, you can't test/know. Unfortunately you can't rollback an update without blowing away your iPad and even then you only have a short window of opportunity to do that since Apple restricts firmware installations.

Normally updates don't cause me grief, but whenever I read app reviews people are complaining about app updates or iOS updates breaking stuff they use. On the app side, you can at least store copies of the apps using iTunes and copying old versions but this is a tacky workaround.

I firmly believe that there are situations where an iPad can do everything for a user, don't get me wrong. I just feel like the limitations for updating iOS and apps that Apple arbitrarily impose are downright anti-consumer. I still use Apple products, but I definitely do not agree with how they run updates.

 

[spiderman0616]

A day or so of downtime can be pretty major. I would say anyone relying on their iPad for work should delay updates until they know apps support them but short of having a second iPad just for testing updates, you can't test/know. Unfortunately you can't rollback an update without blowing away your iPad and even then you only have a short window of opportunity to do that since Apple restricts firmware installations.

Normally updates don't cause me grief, but whenever I read app reviews people are complaining about app updates or iOS updates breaking stuff they use. On the app side, you can at least store copies of the apps using iTunes and copying old versions but this is a tacky workaround.

I firmly believe that there are situations where an iPad can do everything for a user, don't get me wrong. I just feel like the limitations for updating iOS and apps that Apple arbitrarily impose are downright anti-consumer. I still use Apple products, but I definitely do not agree with how they run updates.

I understand what you're getting at, but I still think this is a fringe case. I really doubt this is ever a major issue for most people. I've been using iOS since 2010, and I don't think it's ever once been an issue for me, other than cases when apps sucked in the first place and the developer just never seemed to get it right.

 

[throAU]

The biggest failure in his thread and others is that some people can't understand that "serious work" may differ for other people.

I've done "serious work" using my iPhone before.

I repaired an IPSec VPN tunnel from Kazakhstan to Australia, whilst in Kazakhstan with it.

Why? Because I had it with me at the time. My laptop was packed away and currently unavailable. There was also no local Internet connectivity via LAN or WIFI (used international cell data).

Sure the experience wasn't great, and ssh on an iPhone 3G was awkward, but I got the job done.

Is that serious work? Well until I fixed it, 25 people were unable to work.

Just because YOU can't do serious work on a device or see the use case for it, does not mean it can't be used for serious work.

 

[spiderman0616]

The biggest failure in his thread and others is that some people can't understand that "serious work" may differ for other people.

I've done "serious work" using my iPhone before.

I repaired an IPSec VPN tunnel from Kazakhstan to Australia, whilst in Kazakhstan with it.

Why? Because I had it with me at the time. My laptop was packed away and currently unavailable. There was also no local Internet connectivity via LAN or WIFI (used international cell data).

Sure the experience wasn't great, and ssh on an iPhone 3G was awkward, but I got the job done.

Is that serious work? Well until I fixed it, 25 people were unable to work.

Just because YOU can't do serious work on a device or see the use case for it, does not mean it can't be used for serious work.

I solved a major work crisis just a few hours ago right from my iPad Pro. I wanted to really push it and see if it could be done. I got it resolved in the same amount it would have taken me on my Mac. The only thing that really slowed me down was that stupid app picker, which will thankfully be gone this fall.

 

[throAU]

Yup

For me, the best tool for the job is often the one i have at hand. I'm basically "the man" for our corporate network.

If there's a problem that others can't fix, I'm it.

i don't always have a laptop with me. I don't always have a tablet with me (though its more likely to be on me these days than a laptop). I almost always have my phone on me.

I can do most things from any of the above devices in a pinch; which one to use depends on what i have with me and whether or not i have desk space available. The more cramped and awkward my current situation, the more likely i am to use a smaller, lighter device.

This whole notion of "serious work" is entirely dependent on what you do for a living.

As someone else posted in this thread, his serious work includes a lot of complex maths. Doing that on an iPad is much easier than trying to do it on a mac. Is it serious work? Most definitely. Ditto for electronic artwork. Drawing and manipulating graphics on an iPad with the pencil is FAR easier in a lot of circumstances than on a Mac Pro, purely because of the input method and convenience. Can you take your Mac Pro outside with you when you sketch or capture photos? Nope...

People need to stop assuming that just because THEY can't do what THEY consider to be "serious work" on a particular device, that it can't be used for "Serious work".