All Of apple’s cables are cheap in quality. My first IPP at least came with a long cord. I ended up buying some lightning to usb c adapters. From Amazon. I will also purchase a usb c to usb c 10ft cord from Amazon.
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iPad Pro provide cable is a joke
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USB-C cables in general are a mess: https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-type-c-870996/
If you want the fastest transfer speeds there is probably good reason to stick with 1m. This is not conducive to charging, where I personally prefer 2m+ length cables.
I'd be wary of buying any third party cable rated to 3.1 speeds and offering fast PD while being 2m in length, but maybe they are out there.
If you want the fastest transfer speeds there is probably good reason to stick with 1m. This is not conducive to charging, where I personally prefer 2m+ length cables.
I'd be wary of buying any third party cable rated to 3.1 speeds and offering fast PD while being 2m in length, but maybe they are out there.
I've seen this - seems to be a bug at the moment. When Safari is in split screen with an app not yet optimized (thin black bar at bottom and top), you can send Safari itself into split tabs so you end up with 3 vertical views.
The Apple USB-C cables support USB 2.0 standard only. The thicker 2m 5A cable supports up to 100W (20V/5A) and the thinner 1m cable supports up to 60W (20V/3A). They both support Power Delivery. If you do not need fast data transfer (USB 3...) and DisplayPort Alt Mode then you should buy a thin 6ft. USB-C to USB-C 2.0 3A cable with small plugs. USB 2.0 could also supports Power Delivery up to 100W like USB 3... do. BTW., the faster USB-C 3.1 Gen.2 cables are limited to max. 1m length by specification. The USB-C 2.0 cables could be much thinner and the plugs are often smaller (not at all/there are also a lot of bold USB 2.0 cables). Overall much less disturbing visible. The cables are also not so stiff and exert less pressure on the USB-C sleeve. Take care the cable can handle the 18W (9V/2A) from the iPad Power Adapter. Unfortunately, the Apple 2m USB-C cable has bad ratings. So you have to watch out for a better option. Here is a USB-C cable list of Benson Leung and Nathan K., who tested once some USB-C cables: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml#
If you want to charge as fast as possible you need a brick that supports Power Delivery with 15V, because the new iPad Pros can handle max 45W (15V/3A) in theory. In practice it‘s less then 40W.
Apple offers several Power Adapter for this:
- Apple 30W USB-C Power Adapter 30W (20V/1,5 A PD), 30W (15V/2A PD), 15W (5,V/3A) / this one replaced the 29W brick which supports (14,5V/2A PD) 12,48W (5,2V/2,4A)
- Apple 61W USB-C Power Adapter A1947 (13” MacBook Pro 2018) 60,3W (20,3V/3A PD), 45W (15V/3A PD), 27W (9V/3A PD), 15,6W (5,2V/3A)
The following two adapters are not supporting 15V. So, they should charge slower than the ‘15V Adapters’. But the new iPad Pro should also take advantage of the 9V/3A from this two adapters and also charge much faster than the original 18W iPad power brick:
- Apple 61W USB-C Power Adapter A1718 60,3W (20,3V/3A PD), 27W (9V/3A PD), 12,48W (5,2V/2,4A)
- Apple 87W USB-C Power Adapter 86,86W (20,2V/4,3A PD), 27W (9V/3A PD), 12,48W (5,2V/2,4A)
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I feel like this is where some business-sense is helpful in helping us navigate your comment, and whether Apple should or shouldn't be nickel-and-diming us.
Broadly speaking, there's 3 kinds of businesses:
- Operational Excellent (they use economies of scale to make a super low-cost product; this is your budget brand)
- Product Leader (they provide high value, to make a high-cost product; this is your luxury-style brand)
- Customer Intimate (they provide a range of value, catering to every variation of customer, so the cost varies but it's usually in the middle)
For example, you should't be a luxury, high-value brand (like Nike), but then make cheap products at super low products ($30 sneakers). That's counter-law. It could be chaos to manage that kind of brand-marketing, and your high-paying customers would leave, you'd be stuck with low-paying clients. You just don't mix completely.
BUT...a very mature, large company can master one type, while dabbing in the other. An example of that would be when Apple (Product Leader) released the iPhone 5C (customer intimate product) because it was lower cost, but not super low cost, and it had every color for every customer type personality.
So you see that Apple is a luxury brand (product leader) but they can mix a bit with customer intimacy. They shouldn't make super cheap, low-cost products.
Apple did lower iPad to $329, but was VERY CLEAR to separate the idea that it was for education and made with cheap components. And because Apple is competing with $179 Chrome Books in school systems nationwide. So it was a war strategy to hedge the competition.
So you see Apple dabbing in Operational Excellence and Customer Intimacy, while at its core being a Product Leader. Apple is so big, and so mature, and wise in its business acumen, they can pull it off successfully in small doses. A lesser company cannot juggle all three styles at all, or else.
That being said, it still has its risks.
For example, if Apple sells premium iPad Pros, but nickle-and-dimes those customers, it sends a mixed signal. Everything should be frictionless and taken care of when you spend a premium.
So yes, Apple always makes a profit, like any corporation would want to, but HOW you make a profit is very, very important.
And I think the recent criticism is that Apple is sending mixed signals. Like, if an Apple customer spends $1,699 on an Apple Tablet, when other customers are spending $179 on a Chrome Tablet, don't nickel and dime your Apple customer. Tread them like they just spend $1,699. Don't cheapen on the cable. Don't leave the spare nib out of the pencil. Put a nice microfiber cloth in the box.
This is all why Apple never wanted stickers on their laptops, like the cheap PCs used to do in the 90's. It was a signal that you were paying a premium price for a premium product. Imagine if Cook starts putting sponsor stickers on their products to make a profit. You can't just say, then, 'thats ok because all companies want to make a profit.' No, Apple has a very strict discipline they need to stick to, or else they are sending mixed signals.
Pretty good bug, but not better than the bug that stopped all animation delays. Greatest performance enhancement ever.
Which one do you get?
- Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter 29W (14,5V/2A PD), 12,48W (5,2V/2,4A)
- Apple 30W USB-C Power Adapter 30W (20V/1,5A PD), 30W (15V/2A PD), 15W (5,V/3A)
Could you please share some new iPad Pro charging times? Especially, how long does it take to charge 0-50%, 0-75% and 0-100% in standby mode, no apps running.
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i never used the apple charger since getting the ipad. I have plenty of USB-C to USB-C and USB-C to USB-A cables to last me.
Well said. While not having the headphone dongle adapter in the box did not stop me from buying the iPhone XS, having to pay an extra 10 euros for it left a bad taste in my mouth. The only reason to not have it is being cheap. I'm sure Apple will try to coat it as being more environmentally conscious, but if they were they would instead drop the **** tier headphones from the box and expect people to use what they already have. Not having a fast charger is another example of cheapening the offering. While I mostly charge my phone at night, when I forget to do that it would be nice if the phone could be almost fully charged in the time I have before leaving for work.
Apple can get away with a lot of things because they are the only one providing MacOS and iOS. While I can easily replace a desktop Mac with a Hackintosh system, I can't do that for a laptop because there are a lot of incompatible components so you end up with a system where WiFi or Bluetooth or trackpad doesn't work etc. For iOS non-Apple devices aren't even an option.
Apple really needs to get back to offering the premium experience if they want to keep premium pricing. Providing a decent accessory bundle is part of the experience - you open the box and go "oh cool, this thing is included as well! How convenient!". Having more free iCloud storage would be a similar thing.
Well said. Now we’re starting to feel like Apple isn’t an experience, it’s an excuse, to move money from my bank account, and your bank account, into Apple’s bank account. And you never want the customer to feel that way if you’re a premium brand. Cheap-o brand, sure. Dell or Hewlett-Packard, sure. But Apple used to be above that, better than that.
Apple was always expensive, but not always cheap. Now Apple is becoming cheap and simultaneously still expensive. It’s not the trend that made me an Apple fan.
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Would you say that the cable and charger provided with the new Pro models is provided for 2 reasons:
1) Its cheap for Apple.
2) Charging at this relatively slower rate is better for the longevity of the battery.
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1) Its cheap for Apple.
2) Charging at this relatively slower rate is better for the longevity of the battery.
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I haven’t even unpacked mine. I just charge with MBP charger and cable
The amount of saliva in this post must’ve drowned the entire Apple campus.The IPP 1st gen, was the only iDevice that had that longer (then standard) cable, the IPP 2nd gen, also had the normal (shorter) length cable.
The first Pencil showed (read this forum) that many never used the extra nibs, and are still using the first ones, like professional artists using the pencil every single day.
Apple doesn't want unused nibs, ending up in the trash, so you get 1, and can use this for years
While I could also have used a longer cable, I would have bought one extra anyway, to charge on the go, if needed, now I use the shorter one at home and the new longer one for traveling.
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iPhone X charges fully from 0-100% in exactly 2 hrs using the newer 30W Apple charger.
I'm using the Anker PowerPort II 49.5 Watt Charger and it charged my new 12.9 iPad from 14 % to 45% in 30 minutes!
30Watts is the Power Delivery port.
I'm happy with this charger.
This was using the supplied Apple 1 meter cable.
30Watts is the Power Delivery port.
I'm happy with this charger.
This was using the supplied Apple 1 meter cable.