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How could they bring out a revised iPad in the fall, the iPad isn't even fully released worldwide. Its not in my country and yet you want them to update it.
 
2011 iPad - Retina Display and Front Cam?

Sorry if this was already asked somewhere?

Is Retina Display on an iPad feasible for next year? also a front cam would only make sense.
 
I think there's a thread on this already, but at 9.7" diagonal, an iPad display would need something on the order of 2600x1800 pixels do produce a 330ppi image. That's something I do not see happening for a while.
 
I think there's a thread on this already, but at 9.7" diagonal, an iPad display would need something on the order of 2600x1800 pixels do produce a 330ppi image. That's something I do not see happening for a while.

Agreed, it's just not something that's possible at this point in time.
 
If you expecting fours times of pixels of current ipad, then forget it. It won't happen. Apple is better off going with OLED than IPS LCD with Retina.

Apple will most likely update the display on ipad 2, but it won't be 4 times more than current one. You can expect updates like processor, Ram with Front camera. To me, that is more than enough upgrade that apple will allow. Apple will most likely focus on storage update with 100 dollars price drop.
 
Realistically, how long do you think it'll be before iPad gets retina display?

I can't see it being cost feasible even in 2011. ...but maybe I'm wrong. What do you think? I think it'll be a long time. 2012 at least. Post your guess here. Haha.
 
To make a 320 ppi display for a 10 inch device would push it WAY over Apple's target price point. It would take a good deal of consumers out of consideration. It would also be a battery killer for a display that big.

They might be able to pull it off in 5+ years, but not anytime soon.
 
About the the next iPad update, i definitely think there will be some type of display improvement. Maybe just enough to reach 1080p video, or even more (probably not retina though). Reading is just too good on the iphone 4 for Apple to not bring some of that beautiful text to the iPad.
 
Just ask yourself, why would Apple release a new model in under a year if there is no competition and they can sell as many as they make?

Good point. As long as they're still selling like hotcakes, the only reason to make a new model would be to have CDMA 3G/4G support. But then, it'd probably be feature comparable to the GSM version.
 
The same reason they update most of their products yearly I guess.

Who's to say they'll update the iPad at the 1 year mark? They'll update it when the demand drops ... based on competition and/or user demands.

Although they've pretty much updated all of the touchscreen devices annually. iPods and Macs seem to have longer update schedules.
 
Will Cisco Cius be a factor?

Just to add to the speculation about a refresh.

Cisco announced their tablet for business yesterday called CIUS (see us). Tech specs aside the device has a built in camera for video conferencing and docs with a Cisco VOIP phone cradle. The 7 inch tablet looks to have the capabilities many who are waiting for the 2nd Gen iPad were looking for (USB, Camera, etc)

Does anyone think this or similar products might hasten the introduction of a refreshed iPad?:apple:
 
Um, no.

That is all.

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Apple doesn't make sudden moves. And they don't rush the design-and-production cycle. That's why the products (usually) work so well from Day 1. And why a new-generation release generates so much excitement. Because it's never just a tweak -- it's always a qualitative leap forward.

They sometimes do things that appear sudden, because of their tight corporate secrecy, but it always turns out that the whole project has spent at least a year or two in planning and refinement. That's why it seems "magical" and "revolutionary" and all that, when it finally happens.

I mean, look at how they're not rushing out a 3.2.1 revision of the OS for the iPad, despite the Wifi connection issue. They seem to be totally focused on iOS 4.x -- which isn't expected on the iPad until November. No doubt the iPad team is busily working on the 2nd-gen product, but we won't see it until next year. The new device will really be new, and not just an incremental refinement with some added features like a camera, or a boost in RAM, or a slightly improved screen, or whatever.

If you look at competitors like MS and HP, which seem to be lurching around in reactive mode trying to figure out where they're going, Apple's long-term thinking and general steady-as-she-goes attitude look very strategic by comparison.

The abrupt price drop on the 1st-gen iPhone is a false comparison, I think. It was a whole new direction for the company and they just misjudged the market, or something. There's no sign that they're doing anything wrong at the moment.

They do need to sort out this iPhone antenna problem quickly, though. If we see any near-term surprises, it will happen there, probably with some kind of hardware fix.
 
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Apple doesn't make sudden moves. And they don't rush the design-and-production cycle. That's why the products (usually) work so well from Day 1. And why a new-generation release generates so much excitement. Because it's never just a tweak -- it's always a qualitative leap forward.

They sometimes do things that appear sudden, because of their tight corporate secrecy, but it always turns out that the whole project has spent at least a year or two in planning and refinement. That's why it seems "magical" and "revolutionary" and all that, when it finally happens.

I mean, look at how they're not rushing out a 3.2.1 revision of the OS for the iPad, despite the Wifi connection issue. They seem to be totally focused on iOS 4.x -- which isn't expected on the iPad until November. No doubt the iPad team is busily working on the 2nd-gen product, but we won't see it until next year. The new device will really be new, and not just an incremental refinement with some added features like a camera, or a boost in RAM, or a slightly improved screen, or whatever.

If you look at competitors like MS and HP, which seem to be lurching around in reactive mode trying to figure out where they're going, Apple's long-term thinking and general steady-as-she-goes attitude look very strategic by comparison.

The abrupt price drop on the 1st-gen iPhone is a false comparison, I think. It was a whole new direction for the company and they just misjudged the market, or something. There's no sign that they're doing anything wrong at the moment.

They do need to sort out this iPhone antenna problem quickly, though. If we see any near-term surprises, it will happen there, probably with some kind of hardware fix.

I did not intend to suggest a sudden move, but more as you indicated, an incremental refinement to maintain enterprise level interest as the HPs and Ciscos roll out prototypes or products for business adoption. Such a mild update based on available hardware and software that shows a responsiveness to consumer desire, without compromising the product by rushing a major upgrade/change to the platform is a legitimate possibility.

Consider the following:

The frame of the ipad has a mounting point for an isight camera. So camera support is not new, of course it may have been abandoned for reasons that would require a major rework making such a change off in a distant future.

Source: Mission Repair Blog Feb 2010

The move to iOS4 (face to face is a feature) this fall. Was the iPad version delayed to allow for tweeking in general or to allow for management of additional features (memory, camera, or others)

New Ram chips in the 64gb and 128gb capacity by Toshiba.

Source: E Commerce Journal

I just think it is possible for Apple to provide an incremental change with an iSight capable 128/256gb ipad supporting face to face. Announced in fall and available by Christmas.
 
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I just think it is possible for Apple to provide an incremental change with an iSight capable 128/256gb ipad supporting face to face. Announced in fall and available by Christmas.

It doesn't seem to be Apple's MO to provide incremental updates every so often. Apple typically updates their devices (and software) all at once with many upgrades to ensure there's more WOW-factor. Let's say that Apple could have updated the 3GS mid-cycle with a 5MP cam, 720p, and the fused-glass LCD. That would have taken a lot of the steam out of the iPhone4 launch since you'd lose half of the big new features.

This is not to say that they can't or won't (or haven't) update a product mid-cycle ... just that they don't seem to do it.
 
The 7 inch tablet looks to have the capabilities many who are waiting for the 2nd Gen iPad were looking for (USB, Camera, etc)

And it may well appeal to a number of users, but that doesn't mean Apple will match it feature for feature. People on the forums were pleading for USB on the iPad nearly from day one (almost a decade now) and you can see how quickly Apple conceded that.
 
I think there's a thread on this already, but at 9.7" diagonal, an iPad display would need something on the order of 2600x1800 pixels do produce a 330ppi image. That's something I do not see happening for a while.
About the the next iPad update, i definitely think there will be some type of display improvement. Maybe just enough to reach 1080p video, or even more (probably not retina though). Reading is just too good on the iphone 4 for Apple to not bring some of that beautiful text to the iPad.
It wouldn't need to be 330ppi, 240ppi would be sufficient for a 16-inch viewing distance.
So "just enough to reach 1080p video", 1920x1280 (2x iPhone 4) or 2080x1536 (2x iPad) would work.
 
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