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iPhone 11 iPhone 11/Pro/Max 2.66 GHz, 4 GB RAM - Geekbench 4 >14000, Geekbench 5 >3500

EugW said:
So I am crazy and skimmed through all 114 Geekbench entries (98 GB5, 16 GB4) now in the database.

1. All are 4 GB. However, iPhone 11 is 3844 MB, iPhone 11 Pro is 3759 MB, and iPhone 11 Pro Max is 3740 MB. Is this because of the RAM allocated to graphics? iPhone 11 would need the least RAM, iPhone 11 Pro would be in the middle, and iPhone 11 Pro Max would need the most.

2. Most of the entries are 2.66 GHz. However, two entries are for 1.86 GHz. I did some quick calculations and I'm wondering if the actual clock speed is not 2.65 GHz but in fact is 2.6666... GHz. If that 1.86 is actually 1.8666..., then that is EXACTLY 70% of full clockspeed. So I wonder if it's low power mode, which in this case cuts 30% off the clock speed.

3. At 1.86 GHz, the score is 783 / 1560 for Geekbench 5. That 30% number I quoted above doesn't make sense here in terms of performance, since that's only about half of expected performance. What could account for this? Is there a different mix of performance vs. efficiency cores at play here? Note that for 1.86 GHz, it still lists 1 processor with 6 cores like it does at 2.66 GHz, but at 1.86 Hz, the multi-core vs. single-core multiplier is 2:1. At 2.66 GHz, the multiplier is more like 2.6 or so.

4. There is indeed much variation in scores. Some of the worst scores include both the 11 and the Pros, and some of the best scores include both the 11 and the Pros. So, performance is not linked to model. The comparatively crappy scores we saw early on for iPhone 11 were most likely just because of variation in this benchmark, +/- throttling.

5. Most of the variation in scores has to do with multi-core. Single-core performance is mostly consistent, but the multi-core ranges much more from about 2200 to about 3550. I wonder if throttling is involved here, since presumably throttling would affect multi-core performance more than single-core, because of the higher heat generated from multi-core.
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Good observations I think for your point 5 it is because reviewers got their phones and probably ran the geekbench tests while it was still restoring their data, indexing their messages and curating their photos. Just my guess that the OS would use the smaller more efficient cores for those tasks which would affect the multi score only.
 
EugW said:
So I am crazy and skimmed through all 114 Geekbench entries (98 GB5, 16 GB4) now in the database.

1. All are 4 GB. However, iPhone 11 is 3844 MB, iPhone 11 Pro is 3759 MB, and iPhone 11 Pro Max is 3740 MB. Is this because of the RAM allocated to graphics? iPhone 11 would need the least RAM, iPhone 11 Pro would be in the middle, and iPhone 11 Pro Max would need the most.

2. Most of the entries are 2.66 GHz. However, two entries are for 1.86 GHz. I did some quick calculations and I'm wondering if the actual clock speed is not 2.65 GHz but in fact is 2.6666... GHz. If that 1.86 is actually 1.8666..., then that is EXACTLY 70% of full clockspeed. So I wonder if it's low power mode, which in this case cuts 30% off the clock speed.

3. At 1.86 GHz, the score is 783 / 1560 for Geekbench 5. That 30% number I quoted above doesn't make sense here in terms of performance, since that's only about half of expected performance. What could account for this? Is there a different mix of performance vs. efficiency cores at play here? Note that for 1.86 GHz, it still lists 1 processor with 6 cores like it does at 2.66 GHz, but at 1.86 Hz, the multi-core vs. single-core multiplier is 2:1. At 2.66 GHz, the multiplier is more like 2.6 or so.

4. There is indeed much variation in scores. Some of the worst scores include both the 11 and the Pros, and some of the best scores include both the 11 and the Pros. So, performance is not linked to model. The comparatively crappy scores we saw early on for iPhone 11 were most likely just because of variation in this benchmark, +/- throttling.

5. Most of the variation in scores has to do with multi-core. Single-core performance is mostly consistent, but the multi-core ranges much more from about 2200 to about 3550. I wonder if throttling is involved here, since presumably throttling would affect multi-core performance more than single-core, because of the higher heat generated from multi-core.
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Wow, thank you for taking that time. %)

donth8 said:
Good observations I think for your point 5 it is because reviewers got their phones and probably ran the geekbench tests while it was still restoring their data, indexing their messages and curating their photos. Just my guess that the OS would use the smaller more efficient cores for those tasks which would affect the multi score only.
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Is it certain that iOS indexes data on the phone?
 
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The iPhones have shipped, and the reviewer embargo should lift tomorrow, Tuesday Sept. 17, 2019.

Then we move on to the 10.2" iPad. Does it still only have 2 GB RAM?

Then the one dearest to my heart: A fall/winter 2019 iPad Pro release with 6 GB RAM?
 
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EugW said:
Then we move on to the 10.2" iPad. Does it still only have 2 GB RAM?
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There is no new profile for it, basically 10.2" iPad will be reusing old profile. And highly likely to be 2GB.


I came back to this thread as One interesting point I want to make, is lots of people DM me and asking for Clarification, including post and pictures from Vodafone, T-mobile ( https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/apple-iphone-11-pro-max?sku=190199380349).

My pure speculation and guess,

Apple never say anything about Memory, all these "Spec" comparison orientated from Android. And since all these site have to have it listed they just decide to go with whatever that is circulating as "facts". I seriously doubt Apple will send these carrier a spec sheet that is not listed on Apple's Website. ( I.e they don't give out information about DRAM )

Again I love and wants to be wrong.
 
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tps3443 said:
Ready for Friday! 4GB of ram 99.99% certain lol.
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Actually, the review embargo should lift Tuesday (or if not Tuesday, then Wednesday). There are several different apps that show RAM capacity, not the least of which is Geekbench, and of course we are going to get that Geekbench data in some of the reviews, given the presence of ~140 iPhone 11/Pro/Max Geekbench entries now available in the database.
 
With 4 gb of ram, I expect the Pro to run smoothly. Assuming 5G arrives in the iphone next year then maybe that's when they'll bump to 6 gb.
 
noobinator said:
Everyone will lose it when it's confirmed it's 4gb yet it will be just as smooth or smoother than all previous iPhones, of which I've never had RAM problems.
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I don’t think the majority of it’s users but those diehard guys on MacRumors care ;)
 
triangletechie said:
With 4 gb of ram, I expect the Pro to run smoothly. Assuming 5G arrives in the iphone next year then maybe that's when they'll bump to 6 gb.
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4GB is plenty sufficient. Of course, the MacRumors rhetoric will twist this and add hyperbole saying the new ‘iPhone 11 should have 6 GB or Tim Cook is penny-pinching’, etc. Either way, it’s the optimization coupled with the A13 that helps the performance, Ram is mainly a counterpart to the A-processor. I wouldn’t hesitate to be concerned with 4 GB of RAM.
 
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noobinator said:
Everyone will lose it when it's confirmed it's 4gb yet it will be just as smooth or smoother than all previous iPhones, of which I've never had RAM problems.
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I had some pretty severe RAM issues with my 1 GB iPhone 5S. Constant app refreshes, which was really irritating. It's much, much, much better with my 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus, so I have no major complaints with the 7 Plus.

You say you don't experience RAM problems, but I see that all four of the listed iPhones in your signature have 3 GB RAM, those being the XR, X, 8 Plus, and 7 Plus.

Anyhow, for an iPhone, IMO 4 GB RAM should be sufficient for >95% of iPhone owners for the next few years. That likely won't be true for the iPad Pro though.
 
Unfortunately Plenty of people were praying and hoping that the iPhone 11 Pro’s only did have 4GB of ram. The more similar it is to a XS the better for XS/ XS Max owners.

If it had 6GB of ram they wouldn’t be able to bicker about how similar they are anymore.
 
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noobinator said:
Everyone will lose it when it's confirmed it's 4gb yet it will be just as smooth or smoother than all previous iPhones, of which I've never had RAM problems.
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Pixels also run smooth with 4GB. And many more. That doesn't mean 4GB is something fantastic. Ram is about keeping apps open.
 
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triangletechie said:
With 4 gb of ram, I expect the Pro to run smoothly. Assuming 5G arrives in the iphone next year then maybe that's when they'll bump to 6 gb.
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You forgot 5GB ram, judging by the 1GB increase formula.
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deivydas said:
4GB Ram confirmed for all iPhone 11 devices (incl. Pro), as I understood. Information from iMore (iPhone 11 review).
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Thanks for posting that.

BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if my desired 2020 5G iPhone is still 4 GB too. I don't see 4 GB as a problem in 2019 for an iPhone, for >95% of the population. It should be decent, for an iPhone, for a few years anyway.
 
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