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iPhone 11 iPhone 11/Pro/Max 2.66 GHz, 4 GB RAM - Geekbench 4 >14000, Geekbench 5 >3500

Dave245 said:
What about replacing an iPhone X with an 11 or 11 Pro Max?
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Well, it's up to you, but I tend to keep my phones a long time. I'm still on a 7 Plus actually, and I'm keeping it until next year. (It has the same A10 SoC as the just-launched 10.2" iPad.)

If I had an X, I would not upgrade to an 11 Pro. I probably wouldn't change to an 11 non-Pro either. The 11 non-Pro shows more info, but with a lower end screen, and in a much bigger form factor. Similarly, going from the X to the Pro Max depends upon whether or not you want that 22% bigger screen, and are willing to part with the bucks. I like bigger phones than the X, but the logical upgrade path from an X to a bigger phone would to the Pro Max.

Mind you, I still think the OLEDs are hella expensive, so 11 does become an option, esp. since it now has a dual-lens camera, and if you don't mind the 326 ppi LCD.



That's from AppleInsider.

Also, check out this page with regards to sizes:

https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions
 
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phillytim said:
Apple should quit acting like device RAM is a state secret - and just lay out the specs.

Does Apple somehow think it would jeopardize pre-orders, if information got out beforehand?

Sheesh!
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As a WAG, I think Apple would say that they're selling an integrated device, not a bunch of specs on a spec sheet. If it performs well/as expected, we shouldn't worry about whether one or more discrete components are "competitive" with Android devices. I don't spend enough time looking at phone performance comparisons to have any idea whether that's true for iOS devices, but I do think that's correct with the laptops. And I'm not supporting not publishing specs (which is silly, because people figure them out soon enough anyway), just guessing at why Apple does this.
 
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EugW said:
Note though that the 11 actually displays more information on-screen than the 11 Pro. The 11 and the 11 Pro Max display the same amount of information, and both display 22% more than the 11 Pro. Also, both the 11 and 11 Pro Max should have Zoomed Display mode, whereas the 11 Pro won't have that feature. (The 11 and 11 Pro Max will zoom to show what's on the 11 Pro screen. The 11 Pro can't zoom to anything because there is no matching smaller resolution.)
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More kudos for this. That actually feels like a surprising result, but at least for me that would be very influential in choosing among those three phones. But then I'm over 60. Maybe younger people with better eyes don't need to worry about that stuff. ;) :D
 
newellj said:
More kudos for this. That actually feels like a surprising result, but at least for me that would be very influential in choosing among those three phones. But then I'm over 60. Maybe younger people with better eyes don't need to worry about that stuff. ;) :D
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To look at it another way:

Both the 11/XR and the Max show the same amount of information on-screen, but both have zoomed display mode. If you set the 11 and Max to zoomed display mode, they will be showing the exact same info an 11 Pro would show, but bigger. The 11/XR screen is physically bigger than the 11 Pro/XS screen, and the Max screen is even bigger. In this scenario, the fonts are smallest on the 11 Pro, bigger on the 11, and even bigger on the Max.

For someone who is 60 with bad presbyopia, I might recommend a Max in zoomed display mode to maximize font size without screwing up formatting. Presbyopia often forces people to hold the phone at arm's length to maintain focus, so having bigger fonts helps to keep things readable at that distance.
 
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EugW said:
ksec has posted evidence from Xcode that they are all 4 GB, not 6 GB.

Also, a whole bunch of Geekbench scores were posted today, and all of them show 4 GB for all three models. Here is one for the iPhone 11 Pro Max:

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Furthermore, another one for the 11 (non-Pro) aka iPhone12,1 has been posted which shows performance reasonably close to the Pros for GB5 multi-core, suggesting the original iPhone12,1 score was an outlier, which is common to see early on with Geekbench.

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Really? So the 11 Pro Max still has 4GB RAM!? Well, I am happily keeping my XS Max then
That means this thing will be getting updates for a VERY long time in that case.

I see GSMArena also caught wind of this:
https://m.gsmarena.com/alleged_iphone_11_pro_shows_up_on_geekbench_with_4gb_of_ram-news-39154.php
 
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Tsepz said:
Really? So the 11 Pro Max still has 4GB RAM!? Well, I am happily keeping my XS Max then
That means this thing will be getting updates for a VERY long time in that case.
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We won't be 100% sure until next week when the official reviews come out, but yes, it appears so. Both Xcode and the multiple Geekbenches indicate they are all 4 GB.

The main leak that indicated 6 GB for the Pros was from a 3rd party retail source, which isn't exactly reliable.

Luckily we won't have to wait for iFixit teardowns, since there are many software applications that can tell us how much RAM is in these things.
 
EugW said:
To look at it another way:

Both the 11/XR and the Max show the same amount of information on-screen, but both have zoomed display mode. If you set the 11 and Max to zoomed display mode, they will be showing the exact same info an 11 Pro would show, but bigger. The 11/XR screen is physically bigger than the 11 Pro/XS screen, and the Max screen is even bigger. In this scenario, the fonts are smallest on the 11 Pro, bigger on the 11, and even bigger on the Max.

For someone who is 60 with bad presbyopia, I might recommend a Max in zoomed display mode to maximize font size without screwing up formatting. Presbyopia often forces people to hold the phone at arm's length to maintain focus, so having bigger fonts helps to keep things readable at that distance.
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:D I use progressive lenses so there's not too much of the move-the-phone-further-away thing. The thing that I thought was true about the Max, without actually checking it, is that I thought I was getting more words/whatever on the screen than with the XS (which I had for a while). It turns out that's correct, and for me personally that's sort of a big deal because I find I tend to absorb and understand what I'm reading better if there's more of the context visible on the screen. Major YMMV on that, though.
 
newellj said:
:D I use progressive lenses so there's not too much of the move-the-phone-further-away thing. The thing that I thought was true about the Max, without actually checking it, is that I thought I was getting more words/whatever on the screen than with the XS (which I had for a while). It turns out that's correct, and for me personally that's sort of a big deal because I find I tend to absorb and understand what I'm reading better if there's more of the context visible on the screen. Major YMMV on that, though.
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Yes, the font sizes in regular non-zoomed mode on the Max is exactly the same as the XS, but because the Max screen is bigger, you get more words on-screen than the XS.
 
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Hi, I have an XS Max and what interests me is a performance. Do I recognize a difference between both of phones? I love play high graphic games, so if there will be difference between GPU (A12 vs A13)??
 
SmookyPeter said:
Hi, I have an XS Max and what interests me is a performance. Do I recognize a difference between both of phones? I love play high graphic games, so if there will be difference between GPU (A12 vs A13)??
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Metal speed of A13 is much faster than A12. In Geekbench 5, it's 40% faster.

A12 Metal Score: 4667
A13 Metal Score: 6557 (+40%)

Apple itself says the new GPU is 30% faster.

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On Keynote they said that the metal score is about 20% faster than A13. When I will have both phones side by side and try the same games, the difference will be noticeable?
 
SmookyPeter said:
On Keynote they said that the metal score is about 20% faster than A13. When I will have both phones side by side and try the same games, the difference will be noticeable?
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Articles are saying GPU is 30% faster. Also, if you measure that line in the graph, it's 33% longer for A13 than A12. :)
 
Yes I think 11 Pro. However between A11 and A12 is about 50% performance of GPU. IMHO between A12 and A13 will not difference so big.
 
Yes I think 11 Pro. However between A11 and A12 is about 50% performance of GPU. IMHO between A12 and A13 will not difference
 
There are now 21 iPhone 11 Pro & Max entries in the Geekbench 5 database. I went through all of them one by one, and ALL of them are 4 GB. Some of them may be the same devices getting repeated tests, but regardless, so far there is zero believable evidence to suggest they are anything but 4 GB.

The best score so far is 1338/3543, which is amazing for a phone.

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Shame the 6gb rumour was started as it incorrectly elevated expectation

iPad Pro 11 and 12.9” run great on 4gb of ram without any issue, multitasking with 3 apps at once

So for those who will pick up a 11 or 11 pro, they will be fine

I have zero issues with the 6s on iOS 13, and my iPhone X is still a premium, beautiful device. Never had problems with 2gb or 3gb of ram; 4gb should be more than enough.
 
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