Pretty noticeable in my black 12 mini. I always use the phone without hard case (just an sleeve type one for transportation) but it's impeccable apart from 2 big and white chips close to the mute button. I never saw something like that.
That will not work. Aluminum will not accept colors when in a molten state. I worked with aluminum for my entire adult life in aircraft manufacturing. Also it is anodized coatings on aluminum used on iPhones. Aircraft uses special paints, primersHe is right. Apple is painting the frame and Samsung painting the frame from the start when the aluminum is liquid. That’s why the coating will comes of.
Same on mineView attachment 2308158 My purple 14 PM is the only iPhone I’ve ever had this problem with. It got a lot of chips even when it had a case on, just from dust trapped underneath I guess? I usually baby my iPhones but I gave up on that one, the edges had hundreds of little bits of color missing. Not even scratches, they kind of look like pock marks
edit: Photo added. All the little dots are missing color, probably half happened while it was in a tpu case. It’s never in a purse, or pocket with anything else keys etc
These people are the reason why Apple can keep doing what it is doing, selling us their products for more $ and less quality. They are children suffering cognitive dissonance and and Stockholm syndrome at the same time, just using my unfortunate wording to defend their blind "love" for Apple. They are part of the problem why companies screw us over and over and it is getting worse.I love the Apple apologists in this thread. Ignore his claims. Tell him it’s not an issue. Then when people show photos of a pretty well know issue with anodizing in general, you attack words he used. How about we all stop pretending Apple products are flawless gems that can’t possibly be imperfect. There is NOTHING wrong with the OP’s phrasing. It’s especially ironic that a group of people that watch Apple related posts and news like hawks, to rush to its defense , haven’t noticed any complaints of this until now. Stop jumping over people for attacking your precious Apple and come to term with it’s just another product made as cheap as possible to make the most money possible. Just because it’s made better than most products doesn’t mean it’s not built to a price. There are going to be compromises. This isn’t a crusade. You treat people like the OP poorly because it contradicts your world view instead of treating him like a person. Imagine if we treated people with a little respect instead of being self inflated jerks that can’t be wrong. I won’t even describe this behavior as the Apple cult because back in the 90s it was a group that was out to help and join users together with positivity. Today you are all trying to unite with negativity and that isn’t going to work out long term.
These people are the reason why Apple can keep doing what it is doing, selling us their products for more $ and less quality. They are children suffering cognitive dissonance and and Stockholm syndrome at the same time, just using my unfortunate wording to defend their blind "love" for Apple. They are part of the problem why companies screw us over and over and it is getting worse. These people probably belong to those who believe governments and corporations act in our interests and would run for their 10th booster shot and even denying that any long term disease or side effect would be ever related to those shots.
I can mention other things where Apple has decreased in quality, most likely saving here and there a bit, even a tiny amount will add up here and there and can make $$$ Millions in difference.
For example:
Hardware
Keyboards of today's Macs degrade way faster than the older models. They become shiny after a couple of months (and no, you can't wipe it away). I have a MBP 2015 sitting here and the keyboard is still fine with minimal degradation signs. Seems Apple started using inferior quality plastic, like I said, the savings will be probably in the cents range per device, but things will add up if you use inferior material here and there.
Batteries in iPhones and Macs have a pathetic high degradation rate compared to older models. Not only myself but countless of other users are complaining how quickly they degrade after just a few cycles. I avoid wireless charging or even fast charging. I had older iPhones that lasted more than 500 cycles and still had far above 80% (close to 90%) of its original capacity, same for Macs with 1000 cycles. The batteries in the recent Macs are just ridiculous, with some having 95% capacity after barely 50 cycles. Not to mention how much the batteries in older devices were resistant to abuse (complete discharging), do that to a a battery Apple is using today and you won't last a year before you get down to 80%. Pathetic. Apple must have switched to cheaper battery cells. Not only great in saving cost but also profitable for charging consumers for battery replacements after their warranty/apple care runs out.
Software
There was a bug persisting in Monterey until Ventura, where the Trackpad Pinch to Zoom feature stopped working from time to time (actually like 10 times per day) where you had manually go into settings and untick and then tick again the zoom in or zoom out feature so that it would work again. How can such a big issue that affects trackpad usage big time be so long ignored?
And yeah, please call it single cases or gross generalization. I have no desire to go more into detail, do it yourself and you will see it yourself. There is no therapy for cognitive dissonance.
Right, it’s anodized aluminum. Aluminum oxidizes very quickly (basically, the aluminum equivalent of rust). The anodizing process controls how the oxidation layer forms in order to make the outer layer more scratch resistant (scratch resistant, not scratch proof). A side benefit of anodization is that the resulting oxide layer can hold dyes (not paints, it’s more like the colors in fabrics). But the dye is only held in the outer layers; if you scratch through the oxide layer deep enough, it will show through to the aluminum underneath the aluminum oxide (which will then oxidize but in an uncontrolled manner, as opposed to something like stainless steel where the oxidation resistive properties are the result of a metal alloy, so scratches don’t cause rusting). Honestly, the iPhone seems less prone to lose its color layer than cheaply made anodized aluminum, which can get some serious scratches in short order.You’re right about dirt between the phone and case being responsible for this. But they aren’t chips. They are scratches that happen when culminating dirt is trapped at practically the same spot and moves ever so slightly, rubbing away and through the „paint“. Something very common to notice years ago when so many people put their iPhone 5-6s in a case and never bothered to clean it, then when they wanted to replace their phones they took off the case for the first time and noticed the back and sides where littered with silver spots.
Clean your case every other day (which you should do regardless) and you’re fine.
I have a few chips on mine (iPhone 12 Pro) but they weren't there before until I had my battery replaced at the Apple Store. I don't know if you call it chips, but it's basically where the anodized color (Pacific Blue) is missing. There are a few marks like this just along the bezel between the metal frame and the glass. My guess is when the Apple Store took off the glass to replace the battery, whatever tool they used chipped away at the color. It isn't to noticeable though, luckily.Same on mine
Interesting explanation. I've wondered for some time what is the most durable color in the iPhone 15 Pro line. Apple lists the colours as: Natural, Blue, White, Black -- and it's all for titanium. Any ideas?Right, it’s anodized aluminum. Aluminum oxidizes very quickly (basically, the aluminum equivalent of rust). The anodizing process controls how the oxidation layer forms in order to make the outer layer more scratch resistant (scratch resistant, not scratch proof). A side benefit of anodization is that the resulting oxide layer can hold dyes (not paints, it’s more like the colors in fabrics). But the dye is only held in the outer layers; if you scratch through the oxide layer deep enough, it will show through to the aluminum underneath the aluminum oxide (which will then oxidize but in an uncontrolled manner, as opposed to something like stainless steel where the oxidation resistive properties are the result of a metal alloy, so scratches don’t cause rusting). Honestly, the iPhone seems less prone to lose its color layer than cheaply made anodized aluminum, which can get some serious scratches in short order.
Anodizing on metals has and continues to be delicate.I love the Apple apologists in this thread. Ignore his claims. Tell him it’s not an issue. Then when people show photos of a pretty well know issue with anodizing in general, you attack words he used. How about we all stop pretending Apple products are flawless gems that can’t possibly be imperfect. There is NOTHING wrong with the OP’s phrasing. It’s especially ironic that a group of people that watch Apple related posts and news like hawks, to rush to its defense , haven’t noticed any complaints of this until now. Stop jumping over people for attacking your precious Apple and come to term with it’s just another product made as cheap as possible to make the most money possible. Just because it’s made better than most products doesn’t mean it’s not built to a price. There are going to be compromises. This isn’t a crusade. You treat people like the OP poorly because it contradicts your world view instead of treating him like a person. Imagine if we treated people with a little respect instead of being self inflated jerks that can’t be wrong. I won’t even describe this behavior as the Apple cult because back in the 90s it was a group that was out to help and join users together with positivity. Today you are all trying to unite with negativity and that isn’t going to work out long term.
Good point. Instead, he just shipped a phone that you literally couldn't hold normally while using.This has been a known issue since iPhone 5, coincidentally after Steve Jobs passed away.
Steve Jobs would have NEVER shipped iPhones with paint chipping/low quality iPhone finishing.
As for the Pro and its titanium case, I know titanium oxide is the most common naturally occurring form of titanium, but I don’t know how the colors hold up. I put a hard case on my 15 Pro, so I have no idea what holds its colors well. I’m partial to the blue color, though, and not just because it had the shortest wait time when I ordered the phone.Interesting explanation. I've wondered for some time what is the most durable color in the iPhone 15 Pro line. Apple lists the colours as: Natural, Blue, White, Black -- and it's all for titanium. Any ideas?
I'm guessing the Natural titanium color is most durable because it looks to be the one without added colour? But it's also ugly. Heh.
Me too. I like the blue colour a lot. I'm not getting an iPhone 15 Pro (or any new phone for that matter) but that blue colour would be one I'd get, but I would have thoughts about durabilityAs for the Pro and its titanium case ... I’m partial to the blue color, though, and not just because it had the shortest wait time when I ordered the phone.
When you use the word 'all' it means 100 percent.There is NOTHING wrong with the OP’s phrasing.
Isn’t PVD the process DLC is applied?
I’ll take fiction for $800, Alex.Good afternoon,
As all of you know, the paint of today's iPhones comes off easily. In the early days I used to be an Android user and owned some HTC phones that used aluminium as well. I just remembered that I never had an issue with the paint coming off those devices, and I really abused them and left them with keys etc...Maybe after a few years of usage there was a small spot but that's it. Those iPhones today apparently have a super low quality paint that start to chip after weeks of usage.
Are we just going backwards with quality? Especially when comparing the prices back then with today's iPhones, it is actually pathetic where we ended today.
Good afternoon,
As all of you know, the paint of today's iPhones comes off easily when intentionally trying to scratch the phone, or when you put it in pockets full of sand or something. Or drop it.
I love the Apple apologists in this thread. Ignore his claims. Tell him it’s not an issue. Then when people show photos of a pretty well know issue with anodizing in general, you attack words he used. How about we all stop pretending Apple products are flawless gems that can’t possibly be imperfect.
Agreed. My iPhone 8, which I too use with no case, shows no signs of chipping.This is bizarre. I use my phone with no case, which people often call me crazy for doing, and I've never had this issue.
I work in cellular retail sales, and see dozens of well-used(loved?) iPhones every day. I definitely wouldn't say it is a widespread problem, but is something I have taken note of in the last few years.
Since the release of the iPhone 12, I have noticed that the odd device here and there will have paint wearing down at the bottom next to the speakers and charging port. Coincidentally, almost every phone that I've noticed with this issue has come out of an Otterbox Defender case which the client will always claim, "has never left the case since the day the phone was purchased."
I have never once seen this on a Pro model, which I'm to assume is due to the stainless steel chassis compared to the aluminum of the base models.
Another observation, basically every single device I've seen with this type of paint "chipping" has come from users who work in rugged environments and definitely do not take great care of their equipment. You get out what you put in.
Not any particular cause for concern, I don't think quality has been impacted in any negative way.