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Other iPhone 14 Plus - where's the love?
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The factories for plus should be shut down immediately lol xd
You’re right! Why pay more for something I want less? And also why pay 200 more for the same thing(another max) when I want the different color, feel of aluminum and glass, and the lightness. I think you just about talked me into it. Lol 😝Your words seem very telling.
Your final bit says the biggest draw is having a bigger and lighter phone -- that's the Plus.
You like the light blue -- that's the Plus.
You've sold the 13PM and are using the 13P and realize that you miss the bigger size -- that's the Plus (and Pro Max).
Your issue seems to be that a "better" phone is "only" $100 more. But why would you pay even more money for something that you want less? I think you're pretty fortunate that a possible bigger backup phone can cost less than a smaller phone.
P.s. It’s actually the 6.1 regular 13 I have as back up. Not the 13p. Apple is offering $470 trade in for it and I can subtract that from $899 iPhone 14 plus.
What a nice gift! As you know, there are lots of accessibility settings on the phone that will help them. Also, I think the new iCloud Photo Sharing Library feature coming out later will be fun for families.
If I were getting an iPhone this year (not), I'd select the Plus for the following reasons:
Wait till next year.
- lighter weight (almost as light as 8+)
- no virtual island or whatever they call that stupid notch replacement thing
Wait till next year.
IMO it seems to have the most limited appeal of the 4 models, by far. The 6.1 iPhone 14 is the cheapest and most mainstream and will appeal to the lay users the most. The PM will appeal to those who have the have the most expensive one, and the 6.1 pro will appeal to those who want the (this year, considerably significant) extra features on the pro models but with a more sensible screen size and weight than the PM.
Where does this leave the Plus then? It might turn out to be a white elephant like the mini, it is arguably more extreme in terms of screen size (at the other end of the spectrum to the mini), it’s barely any cheaper than the Pro which has all of the interesting upgrades, and it’s not as if the standard 6.1 iPhone 14 is small enough to upsell people to the Plus, indeed the 6.1 inch size is perfect for many (most) users and anything significantly larger than that becomes a negative
I can see it selling by far the fewest and being dropped in a couple of years, similar to how the mini was
Where does this leave the Plus then? It might turn out to be a white elephant like the mini, it is arguably more extreme in terms of screen size (at the other end of the spectrum to the mini), it’s barely any cheaper than the Pro which has all of the interesting upgrades, and it’s not as if the standard 6.1 iPhone 14 is small enough to upsell people to the Plus, indeed the 6.1 inch size is perfect for many (most) users and anything significantly larger than that becomes a negative
I can see it selling by far the fewest and being dropped in a couple of years, similar to how the mini was
I somewhat agree, but if someone is spending that much on a phone they may as well increase the budget by a bit and get a better phone that they’ll likely keep for longer.
The 14 Plus isn’t being sold due to a massive outcry of demand, it’s just that the manufacturing costs are probably less than that of the mini and/ or a larger profit margin on the ones they can sell.
For some people a £949 (iPhone 14 Plus) is a very expensive phone already. Just stretching the budget to £1199 for the 14 Pro Max is a bit extreme and let’s face it, most people don’t need a phone anywhere near as good as that. The 14 suits probably 85% of iPhone upgrades in reality.
It's just another iPhone XR story.
The XR was unpopular at launch due to the high price and lack of features compared with the XSs. As time went on and sellers rolled out discounts (up to 100~150 USD discount), the XR started to shine. Let's not forget the better thermals and battery life the XR had when compared to the XS models. The single-layered PCB design made the phone cooler when gaming.
The reviews for the 14 and 14 Pro will be revealed this Wednesday, according to some comments made by tech media during a recent live stream in China, the reviewers hinted that when under sustained heavy loads like playing Genshin Impact the 14 outperformed the 14 Pro, thanks to its "improved thermals" mentioned on the Apple Event, as well as stated in Apple's Press Release and product introduction pages on Apple.com. There are no mentions of "improved thermals" for the Pro models, some suspect that there'll be none.
So the 14 Plus will be very controversial.
For its debut price, it's not as attractive as the Pro models.
But if in a few months the discounts start to kick in, and people start to realize its better "thermal" performance (if true) and battery life (under normal use which requires a lot of scrolling, static refresh rate saves more battery than ProMotion), the sales of it may improve a little.
But we can't blame anyone who chooses not to appreciate the internal tweaks done to the 14 models, it's Apple's obligation to deliver unbiased upgrades to its customers. When they failed to do so, like with the 5C and the XR, they had their lessons, but they just never learn.
Maybe currently the role of the 14 and 14 Plus selling at debut price is to drive people to get the more expensive Pro models, and when the discounts come, Apple'll encourage people having a smaller budget to get the regular 14s. Win twice for Apple.
Fingers crossed for the 1st wave of reviews!
(Ordered the Blue 14 Plus 256G on the 9th, the clear case and screen protector arrived yesterday, what a long wait!)
The XR was unpopular at launch due to the high price and lack of features compared with the XSs. As time went on and sellers rolled out discounts (up to 100~150 USD discount), the XR started to shine. Let's not forget the better thermals and battery life the XR had when compared to the XS models. The single-layered PCB design made the phone cooler when gaming.
The reviews for the 14 and 14 Pro will be revealed this Wednesday, according to some comments made by tech media during a recent live stream in China, the reviewers hinted that when under sustained heavy loads like playing Genshin Impact the 14 outperformed the 14 Pro, thanks to its "improved thermals" mentioned on the Apple Event, as well as stated in Apple's Press Release and product introduction pages on Apple.com. There are no mentions of "improved thermals" for the Pro models, some suspect that there'll be none.
So the 14 Plus will be very controversial.
For its debut price, it's not as attractive as the Pro models.
But if in a few months the discounts start to kick in, and people start to realize its better "thermal" performance (if true) and battery life (under normal use which requires a lot of scrolling, static refresh rate saves more battery than ProMotion), the sales of it may improve a little.
But we can't blame anyone who chooses not to appreciate the internal tweaks done to the 14 models, it's Apple's obligation to deliver unbiased upgrades to its customers. When they failed to do so, like with the 5C and the XR, they had their lessons, but they just never learn.
Maybe currently the role of the 14 and 14 Plus selling at debut price is to drive people to get the more expensive Pro models, and when the discounts come, Apple'll encourage people having a smaller budget to get the regular 14s. Win twice for Apple.
Fingers crossed for the 1st wave of reviews!
(Ordered the Blue 14 Plus 256G on the 9th, the clear case and screen protector arrived yesterday, what a long wait!)
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It’s won’t be slower by any means. If an iPhone 12 is still fast and popular, the 14 is not going to be slow. I can’t see any difference in speed between my iPhone 12 and 13 Pro. The 14 Plus will be fine.
Then why not just buy 13 Pro Max with very similar price with 3 camera and pro stuff lol xd
So you think Apple will eliminate the cutout display and Dynamic Island next year after tooling + all the effort that's gone into UX design? Mmmm, I think it will be at least another year or two before no notch/cutout.
Not true, under display is now a thing. Apple just hasn't adopted/developed it yet for Face ID.
May be for some low quality camera or finger sensor, but Face ID is another level of security.
Agreed, but do you see Apple moving away from Face ID? I'm certain it will continue to be used for the long term, meanwhile an easy "get people to upgrade feature" to add to the iPhone at some point will be the no-notch/no cutout display with face ID invisible under the glass. Samsung has developed the displays already and it will be on the road map for the iphone, I just think Apple can stretch out other upgrades/features for at least another year before this seeing as they have just added Dynamic Island.
Do they always explicitly repeat every feature that they have already mentioned for the standard model when they get to the Pro models, or do they usually just imply that everything on, say, the 12, will also be on the 12 Pro?
That’s what my wife and I did this year. Got a 13 Pro for me and a 13 Pro Max for her for essentially the same prices as the 14 Plus. Most consumers won’t realise this though who are in the market for a new phone I wouldn’t imagine. Then again they may be looking at alternatives anyway with the cost of the devices this year. I think the iPhone 13 will be a big seller this year to be honest as it’s slightly cheaper and looks just like a 14.
I suppose we could justify Apple due to the supply chain issues, CPU shortage, and general COVID slowdown.
What we can't justify is the price hike in the EU. Other manufacturers are preferring to take a partial hit in profits and stay competitive here.
Also the eSIM issue in the USA is just as bad, if not worse.
In 3 hours and 30 minutes, we'll find out.
I can repost interesting videos from Chinese reviewers here if they ever mention/confirm the speculations on the thermal improvements.
My take is this, if Apple has not mentioned something in exact words, or add noticible changes in the technical specifications page (like the bluetooth 5.3 upgrade implying a chip change), then don't expect anything.
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I guess I mean slow compares to the pro, well, just like the mini 13… hope I am wrong !!
According to Geekerwan's test (
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Using 5G, room temperature set at 30 Celcius, brightness set at 300nits, playing Genshin Impact on high preset (60fps).
All the 14 models can sustain 60 fps for at least 5 mins, in comparison, the 13 Pro Max can't maintain 60 fps from the start.
The thermal improvements are there.
According to one repair man in China, the regular 14 model now has a 4s like sandwich structure which opens from the back, instead of opening from the front. There is a large piece of metal under the screen.
www.bilibili.com
Unlike the regular 14, the Pro models still accesses its boards from opening up the screen, and only small metal covers with thermal conductive foils on them. You may find reference in PBKreviews' video.
Using 5G, room temperature set at 30 Celcius, brightness set at 300nits, playing Genshin Impact on high preset (60fps).
All the 14 models can sustain 60 fps for at least 5 mins, in comparison, the 13 Pro Max can't maintain 60 fps from the start.
The thermal improvements are there.
According to one repair man in China, the regular 14 model now has a 4s like sandwich structure which opens from the back, instead of opening from the front. There is a large piece of metal under the screen.
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Unlike the regular 14, the Pro models still accesses its boards from opening up the screen, and only small metal covers with thermal conductive foils on them. You may find reference in PBKreviews' video.