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Good enough compared to what? I have a 14P and prefer the pics from my friend’s Pixel.
Good enough as in the photos look good. Most people don't spend time comparing the photos their phone take to those of friends - unless they have a 10-year old phone and friends make fun of their blurry/sub-par photos. Photo are taken to capture a moment and all modern smartphone cameras do this quite well. That's all 99% of smartphone users care about, really.
 
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Putting said money in an investment account is going to make more money than constantly (and needlessly) upgrading, plus you're tied to an expensive carrier plan. If you want to upgrade, that's fine, but it's never been a money-maker. My cell plan is only $21/month, in the US. A plan with bill credits is a lot more than that.
I paid $80 monthly for the last 4 years, for 2 iphone pro current gen and 2 iphone pro previous gen that my kids have. along with 4 watches that have no equipment cost but do cost $10/month for service and home internet service. This low price because I'm getting bill credits from several years back. I spend $300 to acquire 2 of the cheapest phones to trade in and sell my kids phones for about $500 a piece. And I pay about $8/month for netflix so a savings of $13/month. Total counting the cost of buying 2 cheap phones each year is $113/month for all these services or $1356/year. Subtract the $1000 I'll get for selling the 13 Pros, we are at $356/year or just over $29/month. That really puts your $21/month for 1 phone line service in the rear view mirror. If you pay more than $8/month for Netflix, 4 cellular watch lines, 3 more phones and home internet...tell me again how it isn't a money maker?
 
While 6x Optical Zoom is progress, it's not 10x Optical Zoom that the Galaxy S23 Ultra has, and after being on that phone for 7 months now, I've come to realize that 10x is the sweet spot. The shots I get are amazing. I don't think 6x would be enough.
 
For those looking to get a 15 and trading in their existing iPhone. Will trade in values decrease immediately after the 12th Sept announcement?

i,e trade in iPhone before announcement or before launch without trade in value reducing?
 
Makes sense considering how many “content creators” there are now. Everyone is their own little superstar with all their massive audience!
That also strikes me as weird when I see reviews on YouTube about Macs or iPhones. It's always video editing this, photo editing that. How many of those does the world really need? And also, what are they editing?
 
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I used to upgrade my iPhone every year from the 4-XS. Now, I’m on even numbers. Apple, you can’t expect a camera upgrade and new colors to get us to buy every year, same pony show. Fingers crossed for a redesign next year.
 
I'll skip the 15 Pro and go for this upgrade.

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While 6x Optical Zoom is progress, it's not 10x Optical Zoom that the Galaxy S23 Ultra has, and after being on that phone for 7 months now, I've come to realize that 10x is the sweet spot. The shots I get are amazing. I don't think 6x would be enough.
Maybe but one downside is that you have to use Android Huckleberry or whatever flavor is running on it instead of iOS.
 
Reading through these comments is frustrating. I can’t believe people don’t want better cameras. If you don’t, fine but don’t complain about it. My biggest disappointment is the rumored 6x zoom isn’t 10x like some androids. So, it could be better yet.

The phone is a phone first, but quite close behind that, it’s a camera. We live our lives once. I will never be able to go back and retake a photo, so I want the best quality I can have even if the upgrades are marginal. Plus, I don’t upgrade yearly. So the last 4 years of upgrades are making this a pretty awesome move.
 
Smartphones have gone 'mature'. Sort of like cars until EVs came along: every year, you saw the shapes change slightly, horsepower and/or fuel efficiency increase slightly, and slight updates to the interior & infotainment systems.

I guess I have limited imagination, but I can't really think of any "must have" feature that could be added to an iPhone. I guess a folding phone would be nice - but not if it has the current compromises of more cumbersome use, increased weight/thickness & easily worn out parts (probably why Apple won't be jumping on this bandwagon for a good while longer).

I was hoping this would be the year of Apple AR glasses. But, alas, all we got is these grotesque looking ski goggles that nobody but extreme nerds would love (I guess I'm just a regular nerd). I still can't understand why Apple couldn't manage that - Google managed a decent set of AR glasses 10 years ago - you'd think with a decade of additional chip miniaturization, Apple would be able to come up with a good solution by now. Judging by the VP, I'm guessing it's because they insisted on making these standalone devices - instead of letting the iPhone do all the heavy computational lifting.
 
For those looking to get a 15 and trading in their existing iPhone. Will trade in values decrease immediately after the 12th Sept announcement?

i,e trade in iPhone before announcement or before launch without trade in value reducing?
You can't trade-in for the 15 until the preorder day so that day the value could drop some so no way around it.
 
You could have said it was "fine enough" long ago, and it would have been stuck in whatever state that was forever. Just imagine if the camera hadn't advanced since then at all. Technology advances.

Exactly. That's why I want to see a true advancement from Apple. At the very least catch up to the competition. What was fine years ago ain't fine today.
 
Clearly not my point. Try harder.

Most of us here readily know the difference between a laptop capable charging cable and a gas station bought cheapo cord but expecting the general public to know is a giant leap of faith.

John Q Public will have a laptop cord fray or break and just grab the nearest "C" cord they can find.



Fair point with a laptop but imagine a cheap gas station cord that is being used for a device that is say 10 watts bigger than it is rated for, or 20 watts, etc. Not all these devices will be smart enough to know the cord is undersized.

Granted, this issue exists today (think extension cords) but with the EU mandate for a single cord I think it will be exacerbated.

You clearly missed mine which is none of these are reasons to not standardize a cable
 
It's the star at every show. By far and large, most consumers could care less about camera upgrades. As long as it takes clear shots, they're happy.
 
Well they upgraded to 48MP from 12MP last year, and when I compared my 13 Pro with my 14 Pro, I saw almost no difference in most photos, whatsoever. That was supposed to be a big upgrade, however if you keep the sensor size fixed, increasing the resolution does almost nothing.
 
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That's what I figured. I could be way off, but the 15 seems like a stepping stone phone. I think the 16 will be awesome, while the 15 will be a bit ugh. Again — this is just my gut feeling.
 
The article is totally missing it.

Look at the logo for the event, it implies the 3D photos and videos that the Vision Pro can capture.

Apple is going to want people to take these types of photos and videos enmasse with their phones so that there will be more buy-in for the headset.
 
So I’m guessing the already massive camera cyst gonna be even bigger now? It’s already far too absurd on the 14 Pro…
 
I paid $80 monthly for the last 4 years, for 2 iphone pro current gen and 2 iphone pro previous gen that my kids have. along with 4 watches that have no equipment cost but do cost $10/month for service and home internet service. This low price because I'm getting bill credits from several years back. I spend $300 to acquire 2 of the cheapest phones to trade in and sell my kids phones for about $500 a piece. And I pay about $8/month for netflix so a savings of $13/month. Total counting the cost of buying 2 cheap phones each year is $113/month for all these services or $1356/year. Subtract the $1000 I'll get for selling the 13 Pros, we are at $356/year or just over $29/month. That really puts your $21/month for 1 phone line service in the rear view mirror. If you pay more than $8/month for Netflix, 4 cellular watch lines, 3 more phones and home internet...tell me again how it isn't a money maker?

That's a really nice plan, that virtually no one (in the US) has access to..especially a new customer.

I (we) have two phones, no watch plans/lines. Just pay for our phones upfront and use them for years until they lose support or break. Neither of us care about having new phones or tech.
 
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