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I just got my 15 PM. My 13 Mini got hotter than it did in setting it up. So far, so good.
Agreed as have I also noticed the same.
Step 1, pull the pin.
Step 2, count to three.
Step 3, throw phone at enemy and duck.

(I am not sure why you would want to throw an iPhone at a duck.)
Nope sorry that was reserved for the Galaxy Note 10. Even GTA has cataloged that action. Was good fun gaming with that mod enabled lol. Just after the American governing body for flights banned it lol
 
one example is that wired CarPlay using maps (GPS) and Apple Music would heat the 13 mini a bit. I mention that because I was surprised this Sunday when my 15 Pro wasn’t really very warm after a one hour drive using CarPlay for maps and music.

The 13 mini fit in the little cubby under my stereo a lot better though…
Thanks for explaining. My car has tethered CP but I tend not use it as the car‘s media screen isn’t optimised for full screen use during CP. Have otherwise been happy with the thermals of such a lil package. Enjoy the iPP 15
 
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Didn't Apple learn this lesson like 20 years ago with the Titanium Power Book G4? Didn't that have huge problems with heat transmission through the titanium case?

As an anecdotal aside, my 15 Pro doesn't seem any hotter or cooler to me than my 14 Pro Max was.

Agreed, but when apple refuses to comment, and you have a lot of unhappy folks this is what will happen, what we need is apple to trot out Craig on the software front and go look I hear you, I am on this, and I have my entire teams on this till we find and fix this. If this is a chip issues we need the head of chips to come out and go we may have a bad batch we know who you are and where you are and we will notify you to do an swap we are sorry. The end, but if they are not prepared to come to a statement of even hey we hear you we are digging deep, then well the WSJ and the likes are publishing what they see online. The mob is not always right, and it is not always wrong. I will say MKBHD absence of posting his review video and we are this far into the game, one has to wonder did he find an issue and is trying to get apple to actually comment on the record on what the hell is going on.....
Omg!!

Too many people here put WAY TOO MUCH faith into anything that MKBHD says. It’s kinda pathetic to be honest cause he doesn’t give such imperical facts in his reviews just opinions.

And for Apple to parade Craig F out for this? Just unnecessary. Kind of tired of seeing Tim’s jester already. Still annoyed after 2017 making fun of AndroidOS NFC contact bumping he basically brought this the iOS and watchOS. Uggh. Regardless of the visual display it’s still dumb n makes Apple users look like idiots.
 
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And for Apple to parade Craig F out for this? Just unnecessary.
Craig is very charismatic, but there are more than enough bugs in the various operating systems to keep him in the office full time managing the dev teams.
 
I don't buy into "overheating" hysteria. 99% of the time people conflate "getting warm" to "overheating" because they don't understand that chips get warm when doing things and what sounds hot to a human isn't hot to a computer chip.

If it's truly overheating, the screen will dim, the device will stutter, and eventually shut off. That's overheating.
Probably best not to use terms like "hysteria" when accusing people of conflating something.
 
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Did you restore yours from a backup of a previous phone, or just set it up as new?
Restored from backup, but did it 6 days ago. Should be full restored by now. It doesn't get hot when using it normally. It's really when the cameras are on.
 
Craig is very charismatic, but there are more than enough bugs in the various operating systems to keep him in the office full time managing the dev teams.
So was Forstall! His delivery was a giggle and a short pause. As it should be.

Craig, as I said the jester - charisma is a deflection - think of it was Tim’s answer to the reality distortion field jobs had. ;) He craves attention far too much.

The parade has been getting far too excessive without real content focus of iOS and I think that’s been telling the last round of events 2023.

Years he quip and jokes Jobs and Schiller had was sufficient and efficient for a giggle or a 7 second laugh. Wasting 3mins plus about his hair or flaming double guitar or minion like youth coders for a wwdc opening is just overkill. He’s not the pied piper nor should we view him as such.

He didn’t create macOS nor iOS. Recall he left NeXT and came to Apple after NeXT and team was absorbed. This we evident overseeing macOS team when Sudo shipped without a password!!! Ridiculous! Just search the news on this site that was well documented.
 
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There is a mild stuttering as well on this device compared to the old. I think some one mentioned it was to be fixed soon.
 
I was in an Apple Store in Berlin two days ago and each and every Pro model on display was considerably warmer than the aluminium iPhones next to them. I.e. this is likely a hardware issue and I would not want to carry such a leg warmer in my pocket… I am amazed, though, how something like this can happen. Jobs said: „We don‘t ship ****“. Apparently, they do now…
 
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Given the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus (non-Pro) are based on the tried and tested A16 from last years 14 Pro, I am guessing these are not impacted? I have an iPhone 15 (non-Pro) and not experienced heat issues but just wondered if anyone else has.

Seems like the issues are related to the 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max models only, which are based on the 3nm A17.
I read that it may be a result of the lower heat dissipation of titanium and not the A17 Pro.
 
Why would you reset your phone every couple of days?
He probably means turns it on and off, to reset everything, smart way of keeping your devise at premium operating levels.
I do this with mine, but not as often
 
I’m convinced this is more of a software issue than a hardware problem - a combination of iOS inefficiencies, third-party software, and the difference between how devices are restored or set up as new.

My 15 Pro actually runs cooler than my 13 mini did over the last few iOS 16 updates, and my wife reports her 15 Pro doesn’t get nearly as hot as her 13 Pro started getting lately.

Even my M1 iPad Pro started getting hot with the later iPadOS 16.x updates, and even a DFU restore under iPadOS 17.0.2 hasn’t addressed the issue.
My money is on software also.
My wife's older iPhone got real hot and stayed that way after an iOS update, drained the battery in a matter of hours, it wouldn't charge or even boot when plugged in.
We had the battery replaced twice, because it did the same thing again and the 3rd party service center was kind enough to swap the battery, just in case it was a faulty battery.
Finally they had to downgrade the iOS version to get it to stop, Wi-Fi and rear camera haven't worked since.

Also because occasionally my Mac will get "warm" and drain battery quicker than it should, but at least with a Mac, you can see what process is sucking the life outa the CPU and consuming the battery, then kill it. On the iPhone, I couldn't figure out how to see CPU utilization.
 
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I feel like this is overblown. Yeah I’m sure some iPhones one very iPhone like could have this issue, but I don’t think this is exactly common
 
Also because occasionally my Mac will get "warm" and drain battery quicker than it should, but at least with a Mac, you can see what process is sucking the life outa the CPU and consuming the battery, then kill it. On the iPhone, I couldn't figure out how to see CPU utilization.
It would be nice to see CPU utilization in realtime on iOS. The closest thing on the iPhone (and iPad) is the Battery Usage By App section in the Battery section under settings.
 
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It would be nice to see CPU utilization in realtime on iOS. The closest thing on the iPhone (and iPad) is the Battery Usage By App section in the Battery section under settings.
Free app: “Status Lite”. I liked it enough that I paid for the ad-free “Status” ($2.99). What we really need though is the equivalent of Mac OS “Activity Monitor” including the ability to see CPU/GPU/power use for each app/process.
 
So, heatgate is real. At least the iPhone can now be used for a new purpose: egg cooking! 😋

(To prevent being decimated by the comment section, I'll note that this issue only appears to happen for some users. Not all.)

Can cook lobsters too
 
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