iPhone 15/Plus iPhone 15 to become obsolete in September

[one more]

What they published was a summary of 9to5mac article and I thought those guys were trustworthy:

The iPhone 15 may be obsolete faster than any model in history - 9to5Mac

There’s a compelling iPhone 16 lineup and iPhone SE 4 coming soon—all with Apple Intelligence. Where does that leave the iPhone 15?

9to5mac.com

However, the article only focuses on iPhone 16, 15 and the rumoured SE 2025, seemingly forgetting that Apple still sell iPhone 13 and 14 too.

Then they try to make a point that nobody would want to buy iPhone 15 once SE is out due to the price difference (with iPhone SE becoming cheaper and more feature-rich than 15). Yet again, going by the same logic, once the new SE is out, iPhone 16 could also be “threatened”.

Unless, of course, Apple change their course radically and reduce the number of iPhone models sold, leaving only 16 Pro, regular 16 and then adding the new SE next spring? This would be a big gamble and a lot of e-waste, however.

On the positive side, though, before AI is ready and rolled out worldwide, we will be well into iPhone 17, if not 18, territory.

 

[JapanApple]

Any iPhone under the 15 series is obsolete. if this writing is correct.
But no AI.........Obsolete is correct if AI only. Otherwise, it's a normal upgrade from 15 down to XR. Next year I will upgrade.

 

[nowtvman]

Sadly Apple dropped the ball again with this one. tried a Samsung S23 FE and that has some really cool Ai features, including Gemini.

 

[eyoungren]

Agreed, but what they published was a summary of 9to5mac article and I thought those guys were trustworthy:

The iPhone 15 may be obsolete faster than any model in history - 9to5Mac

There’s a compelling iPhone 16 lineup and iPhone SE 4 coming soon—all with Apple Intelligence. Where does that leave the iPhone 15?

9to5mac.com

However, the article only focuses on iPhone 16, 15 and the rumoured SE 2025, seemingly forgetting that Apple still sell iPhone 13 and 14 too.

Then they try to make a point that nobody would want to buy iPhone 15 once SE is out due to the price difference (with iPhone SE becoming cheaper and more feature-rich than 15). Yet again, going by the same logic, once the new SE is out, iPhone 16 could also be “threatened”.

Unless, of course, Apple change their course radically and reduce the number of iPhone models sold, leaving only 16 Pro, regular 16 and then adding the new SE next spring? This would be a big gamble and a lot of e-waste, however.

On the positive side, though, before AI is ready and rolled out worldwide, we will be well into iPhone 17, if not 18, territory.

That 9to5mac article asks this at the end…"Do you see any compelling reason to buy an iPhone 15 over the 16 or SE 4?"

Will the iPhone SE4 come in the Pro Max size? Will it have a larger capacity offering than the 15/16 offers? Highly unlikely. So the SE4 is out for me.

Will the iPhone 16 Pro Max be cheaper than the iPhone 15 Pro Max? Highly unlikely. So the 16 series is out for me.

Do I or will I use AI? No. So, the fact that the 16 series offers it is irrelevant to me. I don't even use SIRI, so what do I care about AI.

That leaves the 15. Which they say is likely to become obsolete faster than any other model in history. Really? This is an Apple site? Conveniently they forget about the iPhone 5 and how fast Apple dumped that flagship (which I used for 3.5 years). What about SIRI. Did the introduction of SIRI make the iPhone 4 suddenly obsolete? If it did, then 9to5mac is ignoring history there too.

But then history is inconvenient to flashy headlines. We'll just ignore history so we can stir up trouble, but caveat it just sufficiently so people can't call us on our BS.

 

[SpotOnT]

This according to the Daily Mail, one of the largest news websites in the world and 9to5mac....

Is this true? Have I missed something?

Another iPhone to become obsolete next month - here's what it means for you https://mol.im/a/13746899

Ok I see your problem. You are reading the Daily Mail….

(To answer your question though, the iPhone 15 will still get the standard 5-7 years of software updates all recent iPhones have gotten. It just won’t be able to do some of the on-device AI stuff that supposedly is getting released with the iPhone 16.)

 

[klasma]

Now, what the hell am I going to do with my iPhone 11 Pro Max?! Woe is me!!!!! If the iPhone 15 is obsolete there is NO hope at ALL for my little 11 Pro Max!!!!

The Daily Mail is very explicit that it's only the iPhone 15 that gets obsoleted, and that 11-14 will still get iOS 18, so don't fear about your 11PM.

 

[eyoungren]

The Daily Mail is very explicit that it's only the iPhone 15 that gets obsoleted, and that 11-14 will still get iOS 18, so don't fear about your 11PM.

My 11 PM is on the iOS 18 Developer Beta 6 right now, so yeah. (I normally don't use betas on my primary iPhone, but I just had to have the dark themed icons).

Although, honestly I took 'obsolete' to mean 'not supported' in the sense that Apple wouldn't support the device any more - which is what happens when Apple actually obsoletes a device. Not just iOS.

 

[one more]

The Daily Mail is very explicit that it's only the iPhone 15 that gets obsoleted, and that 11-14 will still get iOS 18, so don't fear about your 11PM.

Everything younger than iPhone XR and SE 2nd generation will get iOS 18. No exceptions and this is according to Apple, just see the Compatibility section on their iOS 18 page. iPhone 15 is right there at the top of that list:

iOS 18

iOS 18 makes iPhone even more personal, with deeper customization, new ways to connect, easier-to-find photos, and support for Apple Intelligence.

www.apple.com

 

[klasma]

Everything younger than iPhone XR and SE 2nd generation will get iOS 18. No exceptions and this is according to Apple, just see the Compatibility section on their iOS 18 page. iPhone 15 is right there at the top of that list:

Dude, we are all joking about the Daily Mail here.

 

[one more]

Dude, we are all joking about the Daily Mail here.

We should class-action sue them for emotional distress, along with 9to5mac. 😋

 

[mikelets456]

I put my iPhone 15 plus on eBay and all responses stated “not interested, this phone is obsolete “.

 

[mikelets456]

Dude, we are all joking about the Daily Mail here.

It’s weird, I got 6 iOS 18 betas on my iPhone 15 plus by accident. Shhhhh, don’t tell apple…

 

[Biro]

It’s weird, I got 6 iOS 18 betas on my iPhone 15 plus by accident. Shhhhh, don’t tell apple…

I’ll get iOS18 with RCS for Messages on my iPhone 15 Plus, but I won’t get Apple AI. It’s the best of all worlds as far as I’m concerned. No upgrade to a new phone needed.

 

[The Apple Bitch]

... Obsolete ...? - Yes and No.
Yes because they will essentially be replaced with a better product and thus rendered obsolete.
No because they won't become useless, they will simply lack a function, they won't be bricked.

 

[macdaddy43]

The thing I am cautious about is relying on hardware to run AI models. With how fast things are changing, who is to say the iPhone 16s are going to be able to run models 2 years from now? Cloud AI is always going to be able to work on any phone connected to the internet. Hardware models will likely become obsolete considering how fast NPUs, chips and models are changing. I would not expect the iPhone 16 models are going to be future proof in that regard. I could see 2 years from now iPhone 16 might not be capable of running everything on-device. That is the gamble I don't think many people are thinking about. We are just now seeing on-device AI capabilities roll out, these devices are the first ones capable, with most new tech (especially AI) things are changing rapidly. I would not expect the on-device to ever be able to keep up with cloud computing and it never will.

 

[PsykX]

Clearly this journalist didn't bother doing some research before writing this article.
Complete BS.

Even my old XR will get iOS 18... I'm running it as we speak.
Except Apple Intelligence, I'm not missing much stuff.

 

[TokyoKiller]

This according to the Daily Mail, one of the largest news websites in the world and 9to5mac....

Is this true? Have I missed something?

Another iPhone to become obsolete next month - here's what it means for you https://mol.im/a/13746899

Dude it's the DailyMail, might as well call it a dumpster. I wouldn't trust anything they say.

iOS 18 is very much coming to iPhone 15 and many other phones before it, some features may not come to all phones but that's not new and it's not obsoleting anything.

 

[GMShadow]

The thing I am cautious about is relying on hardware to run AI models. With how fast things are changing, who is to say the iPhone 16s are going to be able to run models 2 years from now? Cloud AI is always going to be able to work on any phone connected to the internet. Hardware models will likely become obsolete considering how fast NPUs, chips and models are changing. I would not expect the iPhone 16 models are going to be future proof in that regard. I could see 2 years from now iPhone 16 might not be capable of running everything on-device. That is the gamble I don't think many people are thinking about. We are just now seeing on-device AI capabilities roll out, these devices are the first ones capable, with most new tech (especially AI) things are changing rapidly. I would not expect the on-device to ever be able to keep up with cloud computing and it never will.

I would expect the interest in this stuff to be greatly diminished in 2 years anyway.

 

[patmondal]

This according to the Daily Mail, one of the largest news websites in the world and 9to5mac....

Is this true? Have I missed something?

Another iPhone to become obsolete next month - here's what it means for you https://mol.im/a/13746899

Was a good laugh. I needed that.

 

[mikelets456]

The thing I am cautious about is relying on hardware to run AI models. With how fast things are changing, who is to say the iPhone 16s are going to be able to run models 2 years from now? Cloud AI is always going to be able to work on any phone connected to the internet. Hardware models will likely become obsolete considering how fast NPUs, chips and models are changing. I would not expect the iPhone 16 models are going to be future proof in that regard. I could see 2 years from now iPhone 16 might not be capable of running everything on-device. That is the gamble I don't think many people are thinking about. We are just now seeing on-device AI capabilities roll out, these devices are the first ones capable, with most new tech (especially AI) things are changing rapidly. I would not expect the on-device to ever be able to keep up with cloud computing and it never will.

I think they’ll be a cloud AI like you stated above. I believe (correct me if I’m wrong)my Apple Watch 7 relies on Siri on the phone or a WiFi connection. So I believe this will be similar then over time AI will be functional on older devices. For now I’m more concerned with AI functionality on my home pod and how that will shake out.

 

[surfzen21]

The daily mail is not news. It should change its name to the daily junk mail because that's what it is.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

I feel like we forum posters have started click-baiting each other.

Like, is someone in here working for the Daily Mail to get them more traction?

 

[Andeddu]

You phone is only obsolete once the apps you use are no longer supported on it. My 6S and SE1 are still not obsolete.

 

[Krypton Deer]

Wdym? iOS 18 support goes back to iPhone XR and Apple Intelligence is in its infancy. iPhone 15 will easily work for 4-5 more years from this point with no struggle.

I don’t need iOS to paraphrase my words, nor do I have flight details to share to my family every week. Apple Intelligence is cool, but truly not a must-upgrade-to-get feature for now. Once again, you can access ChatGPT easily on any iPhone anyways.

 

[shadowboi]

Looks like they hired a bunch of new interns.

But even for intern level journalism it seems too much. Zero research or knowledge of the topic, some dumb way to bring “analytics”. Gross.

Every schoolboy knows Apple can support devices for eternity. And even when it stops updating to latest and greatest OS new apps will install without issues for at least 3-4 more years. I guess even iPhone 7 is still on latest iOS lol